Nope. She'd have a more conventional politician as a running mate. Probably male.

I bet a LOT of people would make an exception for Oprah Winfrey.

And c'mon! Seriously. Aren't you practically ACHING to see a woman throw trump onto the floor? Out in the cold? Into the garbage? Force-feed him a spectacular public loss? On TV? How delicious would it be to see trump publicly humiliated in the worst way imaginable (for him, in particular) by a WOMAN? And an African-American woman, at that? How exquisitely achingly delicious could revenge possibly be?

With all due respect, NOTHING unfortunate about it.

You're spot-on about the "pretty fucking stupid sheep" out there in voter land. Look what we got because THEY have the right to vote?

Well, okay then. Let's meet some of them at THEIR level, but with a candidate who actually has brains, common sense, the common touch, a demonstrated public track record of helping those in need and using her wealth and power and clout to help the "little guy (and gal)", name recognition you can't even begin to count - because nobody can count that high, a successful track record in business (take THAT, trump! And SHE did it without lying, cheating, getting in bed with an avowed enemy of our country, hanging out with mobsters, laundering money, filing for multiple bankruptcies, or stiffing people), and TONS of appeal - much of it on a very visceral level that reaches those who "vote with their gut." She doesn't need ANY introduction and she knows how to work the media. TREMENDOUSLY media-savvy, which in THIS weird-ass day and age, can't be underestimated or sneered at or shrugged off.

All the white women who allowed themselves to be conned into voting for trump? Which IS what happened on the last election day? A LOT of those women, from those states, CROWDS of them, ARMIES of them, stood in line and packed into the studio to see her show and to be part of her audience, and made their "Oprah time" every day to watch her on TV and hang on her every word. And buy her magazine. And watch the shows she produces. And listen closely, and embrace, what she said.

Fuck it. She's got TREMENDOUS appeal, power and clout with the public, class, and DEEP pockets.

Whatever it takes, to take back the White House, and start reversing all these spectacularly stupid, short-sighted, and damaging trends. She's smart. She's involved. She's a natural leader. She's got COLOSSAL positives and she can reach all the demographics that can take her straight to the top. And, hell, she's built herself up on TV. If we're in THAT particular place, which we ARE (whether one likes it or not), then let's play THAT game to win. If she's the nominee, I'm with HER, too!

But I've said it before here - I can be as machiavellian as the next guy. How did Malcolm X put it? "By Any Means Necessary."

It's about WINNING. That's the fundamental, bedrock, harsh-reality and frustratingly stupid truth, THESE days. THIS is where we are, whether we like it or not. So I propose that, if indeed that IS the way things are now in the trump era, then let's grab that trend for ourselves, steer it OUR way, and use it to take power back. It's ALL about WINNING, and it's ONLY about WINNING.

You can't govern if you don't win.

You can't set the agenda if you don't win.

You can't make ANY changes for the better if you don't win.

You can't lead if you don't win.

You can't chair the committees and own the subpoena power and set THAT agenda if you don't win.

You can't serve the public interest and address serious and very real public needs if you don't win.

You cannot serve the greater good if you don't win.

And insisting on only the perfect (because in reality there IS no "perfect&quot isn't gonna get you a win.

I think it was Vince Lombardi who said "winning isn't everything, it's the ONLY thing." (My dad had that quote on a plaque, hanging on his office wall. "There is no room for second place. There is only one place in my game, and that's first place.&quot

On edit - another thought: how totally and deliciously exquisite would it be if trump got pushed out of OUR White House by A) a woman, and B) another successful African-American candidate? Even just the thought of that makes me salivate!

"Spokes-troll"! I like that one, A LOT!

I think that's pretty doggone clever.

It's a natural extrapolation of "MAGA", 'eh?

Perhaps the problem could be solved by Traitor Tot 1 and Traitor Tot 2, for Donny Jr. and Eric.

As far as Ivanka's concerned, the label "daughter-wife", which I've seen in use quite often elsewhere, seems to be the perfect answer.

He reached for the stars, and touched the moon.

Still blows my mind just to think about it.

Those were the days... when America did GREAT things. And as JFK is still widely quoted: "We choose to walk on the moon and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are HARD." Now, nobody seems interested in anything that isn't quick 'n' dirty, sleazy and flimsy.

VERY much so!

The irony overwhelms.