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November 11, 2013

Using Religion to Discriminate

If I join, will I be able to discriminate against religious bigots like they discriminate against me? "Oh, sorry...I see you are a RW fundy, can't sell you any Oxycontin and valium because my atheist church beliefs forbid me to sell drugs to known bigots."


Using Religion to Discriminate

With increasing frequency, we are seeing individuals and institutions claiming a right to discriminate – by refusing to provide services to women and LGBT people – based on religious objections. The discrimination takes many forms, including:
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Instances of institutions and individuals claiming a right to discriminate in the name of religion aren’t new. In the 1960s, we saw institutions object to laws requiring integration in restaurants because of sincerely held beliefs that God wanted the races to be separate. We saw religiously affiliated universities refuse to admit students who engaged in interracial dating. In those cases, we recognized that requiring integration was not about violating religious liberty; it was about ensuring fairness. It is no different today.

Religious freedom in America means that we all have a right to our religious beliefs, but this does not give us the right to use our religion to discriminate against and impose those beliefs on others who do not share them.

Through litigation, advocacy and public education, the ACLU works to defend religious liberty and to ensure that no one is either discriminated against nor denied services because of someone else’s religious beliefs.


(Just kidding about wanting to discriminate against religious haters; I would never stoop to anywhere near their pathetic level of ignorance and hate)
November 10, 2013

Grandstanding. Religious conservatives are primarily responsible for this rejection of the disabled.

If the Pope is sincere and serious about doing something to help the disabled, he needs to directly and adamantly admonish the greedy, heartless conservatives that belong to his religion and other religions as well. They are the ones that vote to prevent disabled folks from getting the attention they deserve.

He really needs to put all his weight behind making the tough choices to get it done. He's the big kahuna. The buck stops with him. Empty gestures and rhetoric won't cut it.

Pope Francis needs to scream this at conservatives: "You lying lame ass conservative hypocrite losers need to put your money and your vote where your purported faith lies. Otherwise, you're all gonna go straight to hell when you die, you greedy hypocrite fucks. Make it so, or I'm going to excommunicate your phony whitewashed asses faster than you can pray to Saint Ronald Reagan, patron saint of spreading AIDS and misery upon the poor.

Don't blame liberals, because we are all totally down with improving the quality of life for the disabled as best we can against the opposition of religious conservatives.

The first budget the religious conservative legislature in our state cut after the economic crisis began was money for the disabled. They cut funding to our non-profit by 22%, forcing us to lower the quality and quantity of service we could provide.

Want respect? Go after the conservative fuckhead hypocrites in your flock who continually vote to harm and reject the disabled, cut food stamps, hate LGBT, store up wealth, etc, ad nauseum.

November 6, 2013

I totally and unequivocally believe this is true. My posts from Nov 1:

4. I lived on a beach in Mexico for 5 years, and a pod of dolphins would

usually visit with me, leaping in the shallows along the shoreline as they kept pace with me, as I took my daily walks on the beach.
Because I did not walk at the same time every day, I did not see this as a coincidence. I still have my place on the beach, but don't get down there very often these days, and they have not come to see me the last for the past three years, and I hope nothing bad happened to them.

Where I am currently living in Arizona, two mated pairs of ravens frequently fly low over me when I am hanging out on my back deck, croaking to to say hello and get my attention, and then often giving me a thoroughly stunning aerial display. Ravens are really smart and aware.

I believe it probable that Chief Forsman perceived the orca pod visit accurately.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3962886

10. How smart are killer whales? Orcas have 2nd-biggest brains of all marine mammals

Neuroscientist Lori Marino and a team of researchers explored the brain of a dead killer whale with an MRI and found an astounding potential for intelligence.

Killer whales, or orcas, have the second-biggest brains among all ocean mammals, weighing as much as 15 pounds. It's not clear whether they are as well-endowed with memory cells as humans, but scientists have found they are amazingly well-wired for sensing and analyzing their watery, three-dimensional environment.

Scientists are trying to better understand how killer whales are able to learn local dialects, teach one another specialized methods of hunting and pass on behaviors that can persist for generations -- longer possibly than seen with any other species except humans.
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Many cetaceans -- whales, dolphins and porpoises included -- have these abilities to some degree. But orcas learn local and complex languages that are retained for many generations. And their bio-sonar, or echolocation, abilities also amaze researchers.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news187298115.html#jCp

Orcas and dolphins swim and and hang out with their families all day, and manage to survive very well without killing their spirits serving Scrooge in order to live. Ravens fly around and play and find their food and water wherever, and hang out with their mates, babies and friends.

Many humans believe themselves to be superior to, and have dominion over, all the other beings in the world, while we're killing ourselves and taking all the other beings down with us, and the planet as well.

Maybe it's time to consider the possibility that we're really not nearly as smart, perceptive, wise, and all knowing as we think we are.

Everything is connected.

Mitakuye Oyasin...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3964781

I've lived in nature almost all my life. What these scientists are saying here is as obvious to me as the nose on my face, and a basis of my personal conscious reality.

November 6, 2013

Will you take personal responsibility? Would you put a gun to the head of a young woman

who was desperate, who you found seeking an illegal late term abortion at an underground medical clinic, and tie her up and drag her at gunpoint to go to a police station, so that she could be arrested and convicted of seeking an illegal abortion, and then imprisoned until after she gave birth?

Let's be clear: The black and white issue here is a woman's personal right to determine what she can do with her own body.

Struggle with it all you want, but it seems apparent that the overwhelming majority of us here don't really want to hear arguments from authoritarians who believe that we are not self-aware enough to make our own personal decisions concerning our own needs regarding our bodies and our lives.

It is very probable that there are several conservative websites where anyone can voice their pro-forced birthing concerns to their hearts content.

No one has the right to force birthing upon any woman against her wishes.

And there is no denying that it is forced.

November 4, 2013

Is it possible for someone to believe that they have the right to own black

slaves and still be considered a liberal, progressive, or good Democrat?

In both cases, choice and slavery, someone is advocating that a particular group should not have sovereignty over what they choose do to with their own bodies.

The subject population has limited choices imposed upon them by a dominant majority, simply because of their distinct differences that are a sovereign natural condition.

When being subject to forced, mandated birthing, a condition of legalized slavery is imposed upon only women.

So, no, IMO, it is not possible for someone to be considered a liberal, progressive, or good Democrat if they advocate that women do not have the right to make their own choices about what to do with their own bodies.

November 4, 2013

Yes. I am also very distressed by this phenomenon, and I think many other DU women are as well.

I have always felt that anyone who is so ignorantly RW that they advocate to deny women our individual and collective choices about what to do with our own bodies should be banned from DU for expressing that opinion.

If this keeps up, DU may soon become an overwhelmingly male majority site, except for some "internet women", and the very few anti-choice women who make up the extreme right of the Dem party. We've already lost many lesbian members since 2008.

I'm LGBT, and I agree with you that women are on the bottom of the totem pole when it comes to having our rights as human beings recognized, and sincerely and fully acknowledged and respected. Trust me, LGBT still get dissed here all too often, but the tolerance for women getting dissed is somewhat more.

I'm gone beyond done being treated like a second class human because I'm female; I don't want to be around anyone, anywhere, who feels free to treat me that way anymore. In my daily life, I do everything I can to limit my contact with RWers who just naturally believe that women are second class citizens, and that's the way it has always been, and the way it should be. I really don't want to have to deal with them here, and if the anti-choice trolls are permitted to have free rein to insult us by insisting that they know what is best for us, and that they should have the right to determine what women can do with their own bodies, I'm outta here. I don't want to be subject to having authoritarian RW religion shoved down my throat here, or anywhere else.

It makes me very sad to see the idea that women are second class citizens incubating and proliferating, being reinforced and promoted once again, especially here, at what I believe the Democrats here feel should be a stalwart liberal bastion of equal human rights, and democratic rights free from the control of religion.

The right wing appears to have infiltrated, and successfully infected, DU with the deadly conservative troll retrovirus. Maybe this disease can be quarantined, and a cure found soon.

Below: Right Wing Republican Male Religious Assholes In Ohio Sign Legislation Authorizing Republican and
Church Control Over All Women.

November 4, 2013

That lock was a horrible, blatant act of sexism. I suspect RW religious indignation at women

standing up for our right to choose was also contributory to the lock.

I was disgusted and deeply offended when I saw that your OP was locked; the explanation of the reasoning behind the lock was nothing but contemptible lame horseshit of epic proportions.

So sorry, and thank you for your sincere and justifiable effort, despite the fact that you knew you would offend misogynists and/or those with RW religious beliefs, who feel that men are superior to women, and that their religion should be in control of our nation's laws, and women speaking up to defend their rights is not appropriate here at RW religious fascist, er, Democratic underground.


I'm not going to go any further, because, judging from the reasoning behind the hiding of your OP, it's possible that I'll get this post hidden for being a "typical mouthy female" who needs to learn to shut her mouth.

November 2, 2013

How smart are killer whales? Orcas have 2nd-biggest brains of all marine mammals

Neuroscientist Lori Marino and a team of researchers explored the brain of a dead killer whale with an MRI and found an astounding potential for intelligence.

Killer whales, or orcas, have the second-biggest brains among all ocean mammals, weighing as much as 15 pounds. It's not clear whether they are as well-endowed with memory cells as humans, but scientists have found they are amazingly well-wired for sensing and analyzing their watery, three-dimensional environment.

Scientists are trying to better understand how killer whales are able to learn local dialects, teach one another specialized methods of hunting and pass on behaviors that can persist for generations -- longer possibly than seen with any other species except humans.
snip--
Many cetaceans -- whales, dolphins and porpoises included -- have these abilities to some degree. But orcas learn local and complex languages that are retained for many generations. And their bio-sonar, or echolocation, abilities also amaze researchers.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news187298115.html#jCp

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Orcas and dolphins swim and and hang out with their families all day, and manage to survive very well without killing their spirits serving Scrooge in order to live. Ravens fly around and play and find their food and water wherever, and hang out with their mates, babies and friends.

Many humans believe themselves to be superior to, and have dominion over, all the other beings in the world, while we're killing ourselves and taking all the other beings down with us, and the planet as well.

Maybe it's time to consider the possibility that we're really not nearly as smart, perceptive, wise, and all knowing as we think we are.

Everything is connected.

Mitakuye Oyasin...

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