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louis c's JournalPPP has Hillary up 5 points, Nationally
On June 30, the same poll had Clinton at plus 4. So, after both conventions, Hillary has picked up a point so far.
In addition, the inside story is that of the undecided, they prefer Barak Obama over Trump by nearly 49% points. Many are former Sanders' supporters.
Although they don't like Hillary, yet, there is no where for these voters to go except to Clinton, if they move.
<snip> It's also important to note that most of the remaining undecided pool is very Democratic leaning. They give Barack Obama a 55/33 approval rating, and they'd rather have him as President than Trump by a 59/10 spread. If they ended up voting for Clinton and Trump by those proportions, it would push Clinton's lead up from 5 points to 8. But they don't like Clinton (a 4/83 favorability) or Trump (a 2/89 favorability). A lot of these folks are disaffected Bernie Sanders voters, and even after the successful convention this week they're still not sold on Clinton yet. She and her surrogates will have to keep working to try to win those folks over and if they can the election enters landslide territory. <snip>
Link:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/donald-trump/
Does Trump know the differnce between sacrifice and accomplishment?
Let's, for a moment, believe that Trump's answer to the sacrifice question was accurate (you and I know about his business practices, but humor me, for the sake of argument).
What Trump was describing in hiring people and erecting buildings is not the definition of sacrifice, it's the definition of privileged accomplishments. Sacrifice is losing something, not gaining something.
Mr. Khan is right. Trump does not even know the meaning of sacrifice.
Trump's Sanity (or lack of it) is resonating
I've been watching the Sunday morning shows, and it appears that is it getting more and more acceptable to question Trump's sanity. Mike Bloomberg, Mark Cuban, guests on shows. It's common and it's resonating.
Many in my circle of white working class voters over 50 are starting to respond to that line of argument, especially women. They are actually convincing their husbands, in my circle, mind you, that it is not OK to vote for Trump, or at least not acceptable to tell others you are.
The persuadable respond to this insanity line, and, even it they don't like or trust Hillary, they are moving to the conclusion that Trump is far too dangerous to run this country.
My discussions revolve, primarily, around the Trump demographic white males over 55 years old without a college education. Recent polls have given Trump a 39% lead (63% to 24%) in this group. It's one of the only demographic groups he leads in. So, of course, with my luck, it's my group. As a result, I argue politics all day long. I change a few minds and soften the support among some others. Still others will admit that they are bigots, and that nothing will change their mind on supporting Trump. That ends the conversation, because I can't change their mind. As it turns out, in a strange twist of an old euphemism, "Some of my best friends are bigots". They finally admit it, say that Trump speaks to them and that's it. While we're on that subject, the admission goes something like this "You must like Trump because he's a bigot. You know that the text book definition of bigotry is that you condemn a whole group of people based on the actions of a few." Their response, "if that's the definition, I guess I'm a bigot." Discussion over. You deserve Trump. So, bigotry doesn't influence them, politically. Sanity does. If someone votes out of fear, we can make them more afraid of a Trump Presidency than they are of any ethnic group.
That's been my new line of attack.
My Trump Challenge
Let me start out by saying that I voted for Ross Perot in 1992, based solely on the trade issue. I knew then that these trade deals would be the death knell for the jobs of many of my union brothers and sisters who depended on manufacturing for a good, middle class living.
Trump has now tapped into that disaffection with that large group of union and former union workers.
But where was he when it mattered? I have challenged any of my union brethren to find one quote, one single public statement from Donald Trump against NAFTA or any other trade deal prior to his announcing for President.
He took advantage of the same low wage loopholes that many others did. You know the story, ties from China, picture frames from India, suits from Mexico. If he believed in his heart that these deals were wrong, the time to speak up was when they were being decided and the time to show your support was when you actually did the manufacturing (or lent your name to the products).
His opposition, now, to the trade deals are nothing more than a con job in an effort to game the political system.
Anyone who falls for his line of shit is a fool, or needs an excuse to vote for a bigot.
A little story I tell to friends of mine who are voting for or leaning toward Trump
Now, let's understand that I'm a 63 year old white guy whose closest friends are cousins (I have literally 100 of them). We all aged together. So, my friends are male, white and range between 55 and 67 years old.
That's Trump's demographic wheelhouse. Naturally, the women are way more in tuned to reality than the men, but I digress.
So, no politics is being spoken at a particular time and we are just bullshitting. You know, family, work, retirement, vacation and so on. A lull in the conversation, and I chime in with a very serious question. Here's how it goes:
"Let me ask you guys something. If you were at home and your kid's school called, and they wanted you down to the principal's office, you'd go, right? It sounds serious. You get there and the principal tells you and your wife that your third grade son, about 8 years old, has been taunting this disabled child. Making fun of him, mimicking him, bullying him and trying to get the other kids to laugh. What would you do or say to your 8 year old?"
So, now we get all the normal parenting answers. "I'd spank him so hard he couldn't sit down." or, "Tell him how disappointed I am and maybe look for a guidance counselor." You get it, serious answers to a serious question.
So now I turn to my favorite cousin who supports Donald Trump who said the spanking remark and I reply, "that's odd, Tony. I thought you would tell your son how proud you were of him and let him know that some day he could grow up to be President".
Everyone laughed and everyone got the point.
This is the video that should be a 30 second spot in the Rust Belt against Trump
"Wages are too high"....Trump
If you want to win the blue collar, white, union workers, this hits home.
Hitler's Living Family Members Decry Link of Adolf to Donald Trump
Peter Raubal and Heiner Hocheger, the sons of Hitler's half-sister, Angela Hitler, have threatened legal action against anyone who tries to equate the late Nazi leader and Uncle, Adolf Hitler, to Donald Trump. Hocheger, now 68 years old and living in England, and the family spokesperson, states "hasn't our family suffered enough for the evil deeds of our Uncle? All the members of the Hitler bloodline have consciously made a decision not to have children in order to end the Hitler bloodline. We want to just fade into history. But that becomes more difficult if someone like Donald Trump becomes President of the United States. Therefore, the remaining members of the Hitler family ask that all comparisons between Adolf Hitler and Donald Trump stop at once. We reserve the right to move in civil court against anyone who continues to use that analogy."
Admitting that he can understand where the comparisons come from and conceded that the similarities, "in some cases are uncanny", he once again demanded that the public comparisons cease.
Link:
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/10/end-hitlers-family-line-pact-sons-hitlers-nephew-never-children/
From the OP after 8 hours:
This is Satire. I'm sorry that anyone really took it as authentic, but I guess that was the whole point. If this story was about anyone else except Donald Trump, any reader would have known it was satire. But in Trump's case, it really could have been true. That goes to show you, how scary is this guy?
How is it that there are two orange public figures.............
............Trump and Boehner, yet they don't like each other.
You would think that representing such a tiny minority in this country, that they would at least support one another.
By the way, is one of their ancestors where they got the Syracuse University mascot?
Just a thought
The hacked emails will help Hillary and hurt Trump...........
......with a couple of caveats.
First, that there is no major bomb in the emails. If it's just the continued water cooler stuff, like who likes who for election, or speculation of where Hillary is stronger and Sanders weaker, either demographically or geographically, they'll be little or no down side. If it's just data, like who is most likely to vote for Clinton, it shouldn't be much use to anyone but Clinton. If it ends up in Donald's hands, or if it's public and he uses it to contact those names, he'll be exposed as a traitor and nearly everyone in the Republican Party will disown him.
The other caveat is the assumption that it's Russian government hacks. If so, it plays right into the treason narrative for Donald Trump and puts people like Pence and Ryan really on the spot.
Let's hope, if the hacking story is true, that it plays out this way.
Hillary Clinton Offers Us a Four More Years of the Policies of Barak Obama
Donald Trump offers us four years of Adolf Hitler.
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