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It's that time of year again.

Were either Hiroshima or Nagasaki bombings necessary? Of course it is simpler to look back, but in your opinion, based on what you know know, were either or both necessary?

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On marriage equality

There is no reason to restrict marriage based on an intrinsic inborn characteristic like sexual orientation or skin color. None. To do so is bigotry, period. I don't care if it is couched in "freedom of religion" terms or legal terms or "think of the children" terms. It is wrong to do so and I am very glad that the SCOTUS has finally ruled so.

There has been too much bigotry against other people due to these inherent characteristics and it needs to stop. Judging someone as lesser, as evil, as sinning because of their inherent, inborn characteristics is wrong. Dead wrong. Anyone doing so needs to be called on their behavior (if possible without risk). Laws denying someone equal rights due to those characteristic need to be changed. ASAP. Period.

Marriage statutes provide legal rules, basically, about stuff, about assets, about who has rights to what, including being able to have access to your spouse while in the hospital and other similar things many take for granted. It doesn't say anything about procreation, or love, or any of that. Perhaps a church wedding might, but a church wedding in and of itself is not a legal marriage (though there are common law marriages, etc, here and there. I am speaking in general terms). Legal marriage is a license given by the state, a legal partnership.

There is no reason to deny that between couples, no matter their inherent inborn characteristics. There is no reason to deny them that even if you think those inborn inherent characteristics are by choice which brings up a larger issue of what the fuck. My mom did not "decide" to be left handed and have her hand tied to her chair in school. My cousin did not "decide" to be born with red hair and bullied during his school years. My uncle did not "decide" to be gay and be beaten. My grandfather did not "decide" to have dark skin and be denied the legal ability to marry my grandmother in many states.

And yes, I know left handedness or hair color in no way compares to the shit that has happened to too many in other categories of inherent inborn characteristics but I have found bringing it up to those who claim choice makes them think. A little. So I add them in.

I have seen several posts on DU about polygamy, with strong words going back and forth. IMO, this piggybacks the recent ruling on marriage equality but also is very different than the recent ruling on marriage equality.

The recent ruling on marriage equality is about not denying someone based on their inborn inherent characteristic of sexual orientation. This will, hopefully, extend beyond the issue of marriage into greater acceptance of others overall. Stopping the stupid hurtful "pray the gay away" bullshit. Stopping any acceptance of bullying or criminal acts towards people because of their sexual orientation. Acknowledgment and acceptance that denying rights is bigotry and wrong.

The discussion on polygamy is about expanding the legal aspects of marriage based on desire for legal protections in partnerships. They both are about marriage, they differ WIDELY and wildly in that 1 group has experienced persecution for something out of their control, the other has not.

They are VERY different issues with the similarity right now of questioning the legal definition of marriage. Maybe it is time to ALSO discuss marriage statutes, what "marriage" means, legally, yes even socially. But this in no way means I am saying the 2 issues, the 2 categories, are in any way the same as they are not.

I apologize in advance for not wording this the absolute best way as I am sure I have not. I will try to respond to those who are wishing discussion as this is thoughts in progress.

Posted by uppityperson | Sun Jul 5, 2015, 02:45 PM (6 replies)

Yellow skies, BC fires

I woke to eerie colors, so yellow and smelling of smoke. The skies are grey but nothing on the radar. The sun is yellow, everything is yellow.

So off to the internets to find BC has a lot of fires and the winds are from the n/ne. There are many fires in BC. Part of Port Hardy on the wet north end of Vancouver Island has been evacuated, there is a fire right north of Vancouver near Sechelt, etc etc etc.

The temperature is much cooler this morning but due to a pressure trough near the coast, hot dry winds from inland BC will kick that back up this afternoon, increasing our fire danger again and bringing us smoke in the air.


BC fires app
Posted by uppityperson | Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:29 PM (6 replies)

1,000 flee homes as wildfire quickly spreads in Wenatchee

While the east of the country has been wet, out west we've have exceptionally warm and dry spring. Saturday gave us record heat for many places in WA and OR. There is a wildfire in the rainforest in WA (sparkly vampire area) and this sprung up yesterday. It was a small brush fire in the afternoon, now is seriously bad. The heat and wind combined to make a serious fire by Wenatchee, population 31,000.

A fast-moving wildfire fueled by high temperatures has grown to more than 1,800 acres, burned a dozen structures and was threatening as many as 70 more buildings in Wenatchee. More than 1,000 people have fled their homes.

The Sleepy Hollow Fire “is a very quickly-spreading fire,” said chief deputy state fire marshal Bill Slosson, who described the area as a “pretty dense urban interface area.”

The blaze sparked Sunday afternoon was burning out of control 12 hours later, said Rich Magnussen, a spokesman for the Chelan County Emergency Management office.


How'd you like the heat wave?

Yesterday it got up to 90 here which is very strange since we are near the ocean and this moderates our temps. The doors and windows were open all day, I ended up reading in a room on the north side of the house. I like it when it gets warm enough to sit in the shade without feeling guilty but this was wild. It cooled to 75 inside last night, today was mid-70's and dropping now.

Cliff Mass has an interesting post from Sat June 27, says that this was very unusual since it usually gets hot due to an offshore breeze and yesterday there wasn't one. Also expect more of this next week.

All sorts of records were broken yesterday and the governor has asked people to limit or forgo the use of fireworks this year.

Thank you jurors for hiding homophobe's 3 posts 7-0

It was a homophobic troll and they are banned.

You did well. Rather than hearing complaints, you deserve a thank you.

3 different juries, all 7 on each voted to hide.

Thank you.

And thank you EarlG for the fast ban.

RIP John Steed (Patrick Macnee)

Patrick Macnee, star of "The Avengers" TV series, dies at 93

Patrick Macnee, the British-born actor best known as dapper secret agent John Steed in the long-running 1960s TV series "The Avengers," has died. He was 93.

Macnee died Thursday of natural causes with his family at his bedside in Rancho Mirage, his son Rupert said in a statement.

The clever spy drama, which began in 1961 in Britain, debuted in the United States in 1966. It ran for eight seasons and continued in syndication for decades afterward.

Macnee's character appeared in all but two episodes, accompanied by a string of beautiful women who were his sidekicks. The most popular was likely Diana Rigg, who played sexy junior agent Emma Peel from 1965 to 1968. Honor Blackman played Catherine Gale from 1962 to 1964, and Linda Thorson was Tara King from 1968 to 1969....

Visiting a Gentleman with Alzheimer’s Disease

This is a very well written tribute by a friend of mine about his father, insights and really good advice about dealing with someone who has dementia. It strikes home as my father died a couple months ago of dementia.

Happy father's day to those who are gone or traveling this awful road.

My father has been living in residential care facilities since December 2014. I saw him on six consecutive days during the first week of June 2015.

The best guess is he has Alzheimer’s Disease (AD), and it is “the late stage.” I have resisted that diagnosis, perhaps because I carry genetic markers that give me a higher than average risk for this costly killer. Or perhaps I cringe at the stigma of dementia, whatever the symptoms or cause.

Whether AD will be my father’s final mortal diagnosis or not: He can’t take care of himself anymore, nor can my mother, nor my family, without constant assistance.....

Police confront man who was threatening members at South Richmond (black) church

Police confronted a man outside a South Richmond church who was beating on a church door, yelling racial slurs and threatening the congregation during a regular Thursday night service, according to police and one witness.

A police officer who was working security at United Nations Church International in the 5200 block of Midlothian Turnpike pointed a gun at the man, thinking he had a knife, according to police Capt. Chris Gleason.


The incident started about 8:45 p.m. when children inside the black church saw a white man banging on the door, using a racial slur and saying, "You're taking over," according to Lydia Jones, a church member.....
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