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There are no statistics for gun violence attributed to non criminals . . .

I have wondered if all the gun violence increases (20-30% every year since 2014) is attributable to 'criminals' or perhaps to legal gun owners. I always hear from gunners that they must have a gun to protect themselves from criminals and if guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns but I've wondered if the unfettered access to guns (15,000,000 new ones a year) might have something to do with it.

I can't find any stats on law abiding citizens adding to the gun violence epidemic. Then it occurred to me DUH! once ya' pull that shiny new protection out and shoot somebody wrongly, YOU'RE A CRIMINAL!

The folks over at 538 did some research and it seems the FBI is reporting a 'time to crime' decrease in crime guns. Time to Crime is the time between the NICS background check on a gun buy and when it shows up at a crime scene. They keep records on that stuff. It turns out that the 'time to crime' for guns less than a year old has increased 60% in 2021. The assumption is that guns that are less than 7 months old are still in the hands of the original buyer; the one that passed a background check proving they are not a criminal. The 3 month 'time to crime' has also increased dramatically.

This means that a big portion of the increase in gun violence isn't attributable to 'criminals' but to 'law abiding citizens' who became criminals with their new gun.

Who would have thought? The more law abiding citizens with guns the more law abiding citizens become criminals when they shoot someone.

Will someone protect me from the law abiding citizens?? Please??

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-new-data-on-gun-recoveries-can-tell-us-about-increased-violence-in-2020/

Some random thoughts strung together . . .

There are more guns in America than people.

There are about a million more added every year.

The FBI has warned for the last decade that the right wing militia types are the greatest terror threat we face.

Evidence points to organized militia involvement in the Jan 6 insurrection, ie Proud Boys, 3%ers, Oath Keepers.

One of the local gunners pointed out that only 3% of gun owners own 50% of guns in civilian hands. He's the expert and I'll accept his word. That's roughly 200 million guns in the hands of 3 million zealots or about 60 guns each.

Who are these people and what have they in mind for that armory?

It is the opinion of world leaders that US democracy is backsliding toward authoritarianism.

If Trump or someone like him runs again and loses, what happens next?

Homicide is more than twice as likely to kill a pregnant or postpartum person than any other leading

cause.

[Researchers] found homicide posed twice the fatal risk to pregnant people even after up to 42 days post-birth as did the next leading cause of pregnancy-related mortality. Meanwhile, the study found that homicide rates among people who were pregnant or within a year postpartum was 16-percent higher than general homicide rates for non-pregnant and non-postpartum women of reproductive age. Black and younger women faced the highest homicide risks among pregnant people. About two-thirds of the homicides in the study occurred in the home, and firearms were used in most cases. The study attributed much of the heightened risk to intimate partner violence. The research was published last month in the journal Obstetrics & Gynecology. A possible solution: In related research published in September, Wallace found that state laws prohibiting gun possession by people convicted of domestic violence-related misdemeanors and requiring weapon relinquishment were associated with a significant reduction in homicide of pregnant and postpartum women.


Considering that guns in the hands of intimate partners are a leading cause of femicide and the number one indicator of gun violence in general you'd think it a no brainer to simply remove guns from those convicted of domestic violence. Yet the gun lobby and many gunners vehemently oppose such measures. Gunners will tell you that it's because someone they date my falsely accuse them of domestic violence just to get even for some imagined slight. You know, you just can't trust the bitch. The gun lobby characterizes it as 'confiscation', the biggest boogie man in all gundom. The same is true of 'red flag' laws that allow a family member or law enforcement to petition the court to issue a temporary gun removal order. Oh noes! They all lie just to get even with me for, well, something . . .

The other no brainer is safe storage laws that require guns to be secured under lock and key when not in use or on the owner's person. Oh good God NO! I must have immediate access to my gun in case the zombie apocalypse begins while I'm surfing DU!! The other reason gunners oppose safe storage laws is, and I'm not making this up as it happened right here on DU, if they used their gun for self defense they would be charged with breaking the safe storage laws because they could not have possibly gotten the gun in time if it were secured!

70% of households do not have a gun. When will the 70% stop sucking up to the 30% teeny weenie brigade? When will we who aren't afraid of our own shadows, the vast majority of us who can leave our homes without a loaded gun tell our congressmen to shut the gun machine down?

I have a couple of questions.

“The response [in Oxford] was executed perfectly, yet four children were killed and multiple injuries occurred,” said the Oakland County prosecutor leading the criminal case. “We really can’t train ourselves out of this tragedy.”


“A 13-year-old kid, doesn’t weigh but about 80 pounds, was able to make a weapon from start to finish. At 13 years old.”
— Tim Pounds, sheriff of Douglas County, Georgia, after a 13-year-old boy fatally shot his 14-year-old sister with a ghost gun assembled with parts he bought online, in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.


In a country where there are more guns than people is there nothing more we can do?

If violence and death are the price of freedom, why is it that only the innocents pay it?

Gun violence sends injury reports soaring 80%!

MADISON, Wis. (WMTV) - The UW Health Trauma Center reports a rise in the number of patients treated for gunshot wounds.

In 2019, 23 patients were brought in for a violent firearm related injury. In 2020, that number nearly doubled, jumping to 42 patients – a 80% increase.

Dr. Ann O’Rourke, the Trauma Center Medical Director at UW Health, says 38 gun-shot victims have been treated through October of this year.

“These injuries are devastating injuries,” said Dr. O’Rourke. “We should look at firearm-related injuries more like how we would look at a pandemic.”
https://www.nbc15.com/2021/12/02/gun-violence-sends-injury-reports-soaring/

Is anybody listening? Does anybody give a shit? Is this really just the 'cost of freedom'?

What the fuck is wrong with us?

Hardcore gunners are a bunch of sick fucks.

There's simply no other way to put it and there's a special place in hell for these pustulent growths on society.

I ran across this headline in a gunner publication:

Biden Using Veteran Suicides As Sick Pretext to Target Gun Dealers
https://www.ammoland.com/2021/11/biden-using-veteran-suicides-as-sick-pretext-to-target-gun-dealers/#axzz7DXF58D4O

The article correctly points out that more than 20 veterans commit suicide by gun EVERY DAY but then blames the VA and attacks Biden because, and I quote form the article, “The Biden administration . . . will order the ATF to “seek to revoke the licenses of dealers the first time that they violate federal law.”

See, they don't really give a shit about the veterans it's all about the poor helpless gun dealers who cavalierly ignore federal law.

Allow me to share a little background on the problem of gun dealers ignoring federal and in some cases international law. There are 78,000 gun dealers (twice as many as McDonald's and Starbucks COMBINED) and only 700 ATF agents. About a third, 38,000 dealers, were found to have violated state and federal law but only 1.6% of them lost their license.

The ATF is the only agency that is smaller than it was 10 years ago. Through funding cuts and attrition it has not been able to maintain enough agents to actually monitor gun dealers much less police them. Biden's pick to head the agency (the first Director in a decade) was defeated in the Senate. The gun industry has also infiltrated the agency with sympathizers who ignore or bury violations of gun laws by dealers. Of all recommendations to remove licenses only 40% are acted on by political appointees at management level. If just one issue, gun trafficking to Mexico, were stopped 47% of gun stores would go out of business.

Read the article here: https://www.thetrace.org/2021/05/atf-inspection-report-gun-store-ffl-violation/ but do it on an empty stomach. From one ATF report, “One owner told an ATF investigator that he was busy and didn’t give a shit,” 

So, yeah, the Biden Administration wants to enforce the fucking law and take a few licenses but gunners see that as an all out attack on GUN RIGHTS.

Gunners, anti vaxxers, Jan 6ers all belong in the lowest level of hell stewing in a flaming pot of shit.

But that's just my opinion . . .

A lot is being made of polls showing support for stricter gun laws is at a 10 year low.

Can we look at this in context?

57%, a clear majority, want stricter laws on guns and gun ownership.
34% say, 'Meh, just leave them alone we have other priorities.'
A whopping 9% think the laws should be less strict. 9%!1!1!!

Doesn't take much to get gunners all aroused, does it?

Femicide? Why is that even a word?



So, of all the women killed with guns in all high income countries what % are in the US?



There are 393,000,000 guns in America and 330,000,000 people.

Could those two numbers be related to the pie chart above?

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH US?

2020 Firearm Injuries Up More Than 70%-Worse in Black and Hispanic Young Men

Gun injuries reported by hospitals as per 1 million patients.

Increase broken down by race.

https://ehrn.org/articles/2020-firearm-injuries-up-more-than-70-worse-in-black-and-hispanic-young-men


Analysis by AXIOS

Why it matters: The findings bolster preliminary data showing a surge in gun violence across the country.
What's happening: There are three big factors, with the weight for each in dispute — there are lots of politics around it.

1.Some experts point to the pandemic's unique social and economic pressures and disruptions.
2.The initial surge coincided with last summer's protests over police violence. Many in law enforcement point to changes in policing following the protests, including a pullback amid declining trust. This created an environment where shooters could feel more emboldened.
3.Gun sales have increased throughout the pandemic. Firearms background checks spiked in spring 2020 and haven't come down.
The findings: Firearms injuries that resulted in a documented health care visit began spiking in late spring 2020, according to data compiled by the Epic Health Research Network. They peaked in October.

After dipping last fall and early winter, firearm injury rates surged again in the spring, with June 2021 levels 64% higher than in 2019.
People of color were particularly vulnerable — firearm injury visits increased by 76% for Hispanic patients and 89% for Black patients, while rising 40% for whites.


Last week I posted this DATA POINT:
50 percent — the increase in gunshot injuries at pediatric trauma centers in Houston since 2020. Similar trends have been seen across the country, including in Fort Worth, Hartford, and Memphis, according to a new article.
https://time.com/6095664/children-killed-in-shootings-pandemic/


Guns just make everything better. Road rage? Add guns! Domestic violence? Add guns! Pandemic? Add an epidemic of guns! And the children! Just think of the interesting conversations they'll have over the scars they carry for the rest of their lives. Because . . . guns.

When are we going to finally get sick of this shit and change things? It's within our power.

DATA POINT

50 percent — the increase in gunshot injuries at pediatric trauma centers in Houston since 2020. Similar trends have been seen across the country, including in Fort Worth, Hartford, and Memphis, according to a new article.

https://time.com/6095664/children-killed-in-shootings-pandemic/
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