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They are going after Obama with a new conspiracy theory to get at a strength of Biden's. The

China one does not work. Calling Biden doddering does not work coming from Trump.so now this. I'd love to have Obama in the spotlight as a foil to Trump: the Obama Administration had principals and honesty and leadership, plus Obama's people were qualified. They cared about helping people not in the 1% too. Trump and his team just surf one conspiracy narrative after another hoping to hang ten.

Maybe the' Trump is killing people with his false narratives on the coronavirus

while those in the WH test every person every day there ' thing is waking people up. Why drown it out when Trump is drowning in crap of his own making? Who knows. The announcement may have been specifically made by Barr to create a partsan scandal that would take over the news. People are just more interested in their lives and the lives of those they love than in a reality tv president breaking authoritarian.

Tweet of the evening:

https://twitter.com/AshleyRParker/status/1257708017069539328

And now they will be the only task force. This reminds me of Katrina responce and how the Bush WH said people were going to be held responsible for staying in NOLA and thought the country would be with them in blaming the victims. It was long term GOP policy to make americans more cold hearted. Then when Americans blew up with anger when so many poor NOLA residents were suffering, Bush WH blamed young adults manning the phones at the WH. So it really wasn't them . But they lost that one.

Here they go again with trying to teach cold heartedness (well the sick should have worked harder and had better insurance or eaten better food or had the money to be able to skip the long term care nursing home). But it will be China's fault when the numbers of dead blast through the roof. And Kushner will play dumb on his task force. Like Betsy Devos does all the time. Like Bush did. That is why the Birx-Fauci task for is gone: they won't play dumb.

Is Trump not funding contact tracing and testing so americans will

not know the details of COVID when it spreads again? Think of all the stories like this one there will be if there was adequate testing and contact tracing: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213312156

It would show businesses or groups who open before the health authorities say it is safe are guilty of certain deaths in some cases. There would be direct relationships. And you can't blame that on China.

He went with ginning up his base in ways that could kill and

innocents with COVID-19 with his Liberate tweets. That is the point. It is not a well thought through strategy to liberate people from liviing as Trump was doing with his liberate campaign, also to bankrupt Liberal governors which would directly attack the obama-obama-trump voters and their wellbeing. I think labelling Biden as pro communist is just reusing the anti socialist campaign they had planned to run against Bernie. They got nothing. I wonder if not enabling testing is so there will be no narrative of who and when COVID-19 spreads when it spreads again because contact tracing will tell a detailed story if it had the funding.

Trumpists Urge Defiance of Social Distancing Rules

Trumpists Urge Defiance of Social Distancing Rules

April 15, 2020 at 4:29 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 67 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2020/04/15/trumpists-urge-people-to-defy-social-distancing-rules/

"SNIP.....

“A protest movement is taking hold targeting states that have extended social-distancing rules, closed schools and restricted access to large religious gatherings. And it’s being fed by loyalists and political allies of President Trump,” the Daily Beast reports.

“The tension has prompted Republican lawmakers and supporters of the president to publicly call for Americans to defy their local orders, claiming they infringe on constitutional rights.”

Detroit News: “Hundreds of demonstrators lined the streets around the Michigan Capitol Wednesday for a rally to protest Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s stay-at-home order, which aims to protect public health during the coronavirus pandemic.”

.....SNIP"

Darwin award members. Unfortunately they'll take the vulnerable population of Detroit with them.

And then there is this: https://www.salon.com/2020/04/15/trumps-darkness-white-supremacy-christian-nationalism-and-the-coronavirus/

Governors Take Control of When to Reopen

Governors Take Control of When to Reopen

April 13, 2020 at 4:56 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 265 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2020/04/13/governors-take-control-of-when-to-reopen/

"SNIP.....

“States on the country’s East and West coasts are forming their own regional pacts to work together on how to reopen from the stay-at-home orders each has issued to limit the spread of the novel coronavirus,” CNN reports.

“The first such group to be announced came Monday on the East Coast. Democratic New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said his state, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, Delaware and Rhode Island each plan to name a public health and economic official to a regional working group. The chief of staff of the governor of each state also will be a part of the group, which will begin work immediately to design a reopening plan.”

“Later on Monday, the West Coast states of California, Washington and Oregon also announced they are joining forces in a plan to begin incremental release of stay-at-home orders.”

.....SNIP"

If only there were some way for the States to all organize together so they have the might to buy supplies at low cost and have expertese centralized.for times such as these. Seriously, does Kuschner and the Heritage Foundation want to erase the federal government so no entity will be big enough to tell big business what to do or what to pay or what laws and regulations to follow? And look here. Big business is trying to control the federal government to open up the economy. Thank god for the States. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/13/trump-reopen-economy-conservative-groups-coronavirus/

Mitch McConnell Blames Impeachment For Trump Coronavirus Incompetence

BY DARRAGH ROCHE at PoliticusUSA

Mitch McConnell Blames Impeachment For Trump Coronavirus Incompetence

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/03/31/mitch-mcconnell-claims-impeachment-diverted-the-attention-of-the-government-from-coronavirus.html

"SNIP....

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has claimed impeachment distracted the federal government from the Coronavirus. The Kentucky Republican suggested the impeachment trial made dealing with the global pandemic more difficult.

McConnell spoke to conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt on Tuesday and took the opportunity to link impeachment to the pandemic.

Hewitt praised Republican Senator Tom Cotton for apparently realizing Coronavirus was a problem earlier than others.

“Let me talk to you a little bit about Senator Cotton,” Hewitt said.

......SNIP"

Because Trump can only handle one thing at a time. Why is he president?

After accusing them of hoarding masks yesterday.

People do not start running around again till there is a very low rate of infection

When the rate of infection is very low there will be more herd immunity for us and the virus will move on to look for other hosts, hosts that don't exist as everyone is self isolating. Imagine if the Trump said two months ago "stand by yourself and have no contact with anybody else for the next 14 days". The virus would have caused havock on the people who already had it but, after 14 days, the virus would be mostly gone because it could not survive having no new hosts and the 8 cases could be isolated and resolved in the near future. With fewer infected people, there is less virus around. So when we are coming down the other side of the curve we have bent, it is important to not stop self isolation until the rate of infection has fallen really, really low. And not before then. Otherewise, the crisis could reboot. When that point is reached and people start to run around you keep testing and put out new clusters here and there. It could very well come back in a big way again. And then again. But at that point we might have a vaccine or better treatments and more and more herd immunity. It could turn seasonal. Depends how long people who have had the virus stay immune. Or how much coronavirus mutates. That would lessen herd immunity. The hope is that it is this one time and we get our act together and stamp out little outbreaks here and there and develop a vaccine. Or ten. You are right to be worried.

Think of all that shaded area under the curve as the amount of virus there is.

Don't take word or anybody elses. Read the Hammer and the Dance (i found the graphs really hard to follow so i gave up and just read the text). https://medium.com/%40tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56
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