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Voice for Peace

Voice for Peace's Journal
Voice for Peace's Journal
February 12, 2016

No disrespect to John Lewis, or to anyone else

He is a person, a human being., Many have heard his life story, and it's powerful.

Because of that life story, some of us fear offending his reputation, or our own, or Bernie's. Well and good, probably wise choice.
I started thinking about Sen McCain, another familiar story of courage, wounds, integrity, self-sacrifice, politics, hard choices, compromises, reputations, decisions, allies. Who really knows anything about anyone?

If there are 7 billion points of light there are also seven billion points of view. None of them are wrong but no two are the same.

My line is drawn at "do no harm" and at this point people who denigrate Bernie, as part of the Clinton scorched earth campaign, are doing harm, I don't care what race or story or past acts of courage.

I believe there will be many, just as courageous, who will step up: today, now, here, for honesty and fairness.

February 12, 2016

Lots of people overlook this point and I agree it's the

fundamental issue of this campaign.

Corruption itself, in its many forms, is the main obstacle to progress. Greed, lies & bribes, cheat & deceit. "Short-sightedness" to put it kindly.

I have been reflecting on what people view as Bernie's ideological naivete and lack of practical experience, the question of what qualifies him for this job?

I look at his keen & unusual intelligence, his perceptiveness, and his honest nature. Over the span of many years -- in activism, politics & finally in Congress -- he's been an informed progressive: learning, observing, listening, noticing, thinking, & envisioning solutions.

I have no doubt he knows PLENTY about how DC works, what's broken, who"s corrupt, and how to change things -- much more than anyone realizes.

Sanders' confidence in this election is so lighthearted, my perception. He keeps getting a good feeling about one state after another. Me too!

February 11, 2016

My explanation is visceral. I don't hate her.

But I hate dishonesty and particularly the slimy distortions she, Bill, her campaign & surrogates employ to advance their ambition.

It puzzles me, when such dishonesty is used as a tool on a regular basis -- ESPECIALLY when used to manipulate primary voters -- why anyone thinks we can believe her, trust her character or judgement. Or Bill's -- he'd be there too. No thanks.

February 11, 2016

It's sloppy for Obama to allow people to give his endorsement, if it's

even true, second-hand to voters.
Thr preslident did not give that impression to Bernie when they met.
Obama, do you endorse this claim?

February 10, 2016

Bernie has more confidence in ge voters than most people do.

I think this is because of how carefully he made his decision to run.

As I recall, he went to all sorts of places and listened to people, including in strongly conservative areas.

And when he became confident his message would resonate widely enough for him to win, he jumped all in.

February 10, 2016

Oh my how people project faults onto an honest man.

It is the Weird Mrror Phenomenon.
Listen how, in detractors' efforts to vilify Bernie, they invariably give us a good description of themselves: character, values, even their secrets:, their dishonest tactics, all of it.
Like Bill trying to paint Bernie as less-than-respectful toward women.

Listen to what's said about him in coming weeks. Incredibly revealing.

February 10, 2016

You look at independents and see ignorant suckers

and your perspective is valid from where you sit.

Likewise, others have valid pov's of their own.

Many people describe another's pov, and call it their own. It's usually not.
Few think for themselves, or challenge their own beliefs.

Many see Clintons as part of this nation's problem. They (and I) are ignorant of your particular pov.
We just don't see what you see in her.

As for me I see an honest man whose adversary is not the dnc, nor hilary, nor the republicans, but Corruption itself. I can not in good conscience vote for a dishonest person.

Corruption permeates Hilary's campaign.You don't see it. not your fault.

February 9, 2016

Masterful projection ... I would laugh

But I'm too nauseated by this jerk.

He has unwittingly and eloquently revealed his and Hilary's own values.

Give me an honest man (any gender) any day.

February 9, 2016

Thete's something about smart motivated inspired committed compassionate people

male or female young or old so attractive that people fall (or rise) in love. And work together for peace and justice.

February 9, 2016

First of all, he's one of the best liked members of Congress.

On an interpersonal level and a teamwork level. People actually trust him. Known for being reasonable and consistent, if a bit eccentric.

But most there disagree with his politics.
And it scares many of them, for many reasons.

Do you believe that those who ARE corrupt need to go?
(To jail)
Bernie isn't trying to make friends.
How about the jolly.neocons and their gleeful torture fetish?

They all know he's an honest man. The rich & corrupt are the ones fighting him hardest, trying to brainwash and scare people.

You don't see this? It appears as an enormous elephant in the room. Even dressed in a donkey costume, it's hard to miss.

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