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Stuart G's JournalImpeachment hearings just confirmed voters preexisting opionions: 538
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-impeachment-hearings-just-confirmed-voters-preexisting-opinions/Dec. 4, 2019, at 6:00 AM
By Amelia Thomson-DeVeaux and Laura Bronner
The first phase of the impeachment process is over, and according to our impeachment tracker, public opinion on impeaching and removing President Trump has remained largely steady through most of November, with roughly 47 percent of Americans supporting impeachment and 44 percent opposed. And in our latest survey with Ipsos, where we check back in with the same group of respondents every two weeks using Ipsos’s KnowledgePanel, we uncovered a similar trend.
A majority of Americans (57 percent) still think Trump committed an impeachable offense, which is essentially identical to the share who said so in mid-November when we first asked the question. There was one relatively small but noteworthy shift between the first and second rounds of our survey. After the first round of hearings, where witnesses testified that Trump and his allies had been involved in the push for investigations into Joe Biden and his son, respondents were more likely to agree that Trump withheld military aid to pressure the Ukrainians into opening an investigation. In our initial survey, 56 percent of respondents said they believed this happened, but in the latest poll, that number rose to 63 percent. Democrats are still, however, much more likely than Republicans to think that Trump conditioned the aid on the investigations.
Overall, though, opinion on impeachment seems to have hardened as a result of the public testimony instead of persuading people to change their position. For instance, a majority of respondents (58 percent) said that the hearings did shift their thinking on whether Trump committed an impeachable offense, but in almost all cases they simply became more convinced of their original opinion. Ninety-five percent of people who said the hearings made them more likely to think Trump committed an impeachable offense already said they thought he committed an impeachable offense in the first wave of our poll. Similarly, 95 percent of those who said the hearings made them less likely to think Trump committed an an impeachable offense already thought his behavior wasn’t impeachable.
What is the price of integrity?
...It seems that one is up to each of us. Some it is very cheap, others much higher, and some of us cannot be bought at all. Jonathan Turley had a price as did Donald Trump. I wonder what the price was on Turley? I know that the price on Trump was very small and whoever paid had a lot on Trump. But both are a done deal.
McConnell has increased his wealth immensely, so one can see what he cost. Mitch's wealth has been discussed before in other places at Democratic Underground.
...I watched Turley for a short time on an errand today. He was disgusting. What can be said? I guess everyone has a price of one kind or another. Some people cannot be bought for any price at all. I don't know what my price is. I wonder if anyone knows until the moment arrives when the deal must be made. I do believe that most Republicans are selling theirs for a very low price. And it gets lower every day.
Announcement: "The Trumptanic has been hit, it is going down"
???. Hasta la vista baby, been good to know you!!!! ..... 
"A Grave Charge and Momentous Moment Turn in the Impeachment Inquiry" CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/04/politics/democrats-public-impeachment-case/index.html______________________________________________________________________________________
Analysis by Stephen Collinson, CNN
Updated 7:04 AM ET, Wed December 4, 2019
The House Intelligence Committee summary accuses Trump of perpetrating one of the most serious political crimes in US history:
(CNN) — The stunningly consequential accusation spelled out in the Democrats' impeachment report represents the most sweeping effort yet to capture the span of President Donald Trump's alleged offense and to boil it into a crisp indictment.
In effect, the 300-page House Intelligence Committee summary of witness testimony, timelines and phone records accused Trump of perpetrating one of the most serious political crimes in the history of the United States.
The report is a roadmap toward formal articles of impeachment -- an argument to a nation split in two on Trump's political fate that there is no alternative but to remove him from office 11 months before the next general election over his pressure on Ukraine for political favors.
The stark charge that the House Judiciary Committee will take up in its first impeachment hearing Wednesday fits the gravity of Congress' most somber duty -- deciding whether to end a presidency.
It is that the 45th President presents an immediate, clear and future threat to American national security, the Constitution and the resilience of the republic's democratic self-governance itself.
Adam Schiff is not new to fighting Russian spys:
"From 1987 to 1993, he was an Assistant United States Attorney in the Office of the United States Attorney for the Central District of California. While in this position, Schiff came to public attention when he prosecuted the case against Richard Miller, a former FBI agent who was convicted of spying for the Soviet Union."
Please note that this isn't last week or last month. This is 25 years ago. Schiff has seen this before. Also note that the spy was..."convicted".
In order to convict the "spy" Schiff had to do a whole lot of research on this Soviet - spy relationship, and how it works, and how spies try to avoid being caught. Schiff is not new to this, and Trump doesn't really have a clue what he is up against.
250,000 dominoes,,,lasts 20 minutes..(Yes, it really does!!!) Idea from catbyte
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=k65OQpS93PE&feature=emb_logoA Very Weird and Different Film is Playing in the Lounge..100,000 Dominoes.
One of the very greatest and weirdest in my opinion. (something I have never seen)
Posted by catbyte..... hit the link below and enjoy ( 4 minutes 48 seconds)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10181289012
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