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DonCoquixote's JournalJanay Rice tells 'Today' Ravens suggested she apologize at news conference
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/football/bucs/janay-rice-tells-today-ravens-suggested-she-apologize-at-news-conference/2208517OK, this has got to be one of the major stomach churners in period full of them
It is one thing for the NFL to say "Hey, we had no idea this guy was a wife beater", even though evidence points to the NFL. and the commisioner himself, LYING about that.
But how could these bastards see the tape where Rice was beaten into a coma and then ask her to apologize?
NFL, you are despicable. Balitmore ravens, you should be boycotted and fined.
And no, I do not care one whit about whetehr or not she forgives him, loves him, or for that matter, if she would not change one thing, because when one SOB gets patted on the back for wicked behaviour, all SOBS do.
OK, let's say Michael Brown did...
I have heard a ton of apologetics for Wilson, so let me attack them with logic.
Suppose,for the sheer sake of argument that Michael Brown stole the cigars. Let's say he was the mastermind and had planned to steal those cigars, right down to him shaking his fist at the clerk that tired to stop him.
Let's say he mouthed off at the cop...hell, let's even say he charged at the cop,looking like a full blown "demon" (whatever meaning THAT had in Wilson's head)
Let's say he did NOT raise his hands, even though most say he did, there will be some here who will insisit he did not, because in their minds, young black men never do that.
OK,
what the hell justified Wilson firing 12 damned bullets? Any one of these could have shot an innocent bystander.
what the hell justified him shooting someone who is unarmed? Do you honestly think that if a black cop shot an unarmed white kid that Fox would nto be questioing the cop?
why did he not use a baton? A taser? mace? or for that matter, a PUNCH or KICK? All of the listed methods are taught to cops, at taxpayer expense.
The fact is, this is about the fact a frightened cop reached for a gun, and this is about, as Michael Moore so points out in Bowling for Columbine, we have a nation that thinks those scary brown people who come and take their stuuf unless they are prepared to shoot to kill, be it here, or around the world.
It means that even if you put a dozen tools in someon'es hand, there is one they will reahc for,a gun.
an announcement at night (i.e. ferguson)
Even airheads like Andrea Mitchell question why this was made at night. Why not during the day, when sunlight and work during the day would have discouraged riots.
It could not have anything to do with the fact the prosecutor got to interrupt prime time TV,as if he were the president.
It had nothing to do with the fact it allowed the prosecutor to get a good night's sleep after whisking himself off the podium and scurrying off to wherever,nor the fact it gave the Ferguson PD a whole night for whatever lawyers,experts, and other professional liars to do damage control.
It had nothing to do with the fact that a riot would look good for Ferguson's cops, as if to say "see, you know those peopleriot, and we alone protect you form those animals!"
It had nothing to do with the fact that it would make it harder for the churches and others to organize efforts to contain the riots.
It had nothing to do with the fact that it made fires show up so nice for cameras, especially that one BBQ that they keptf ocusing on, as if to say "see, they burn their own businesses down, they are too stupid to be trsuted.:
No, this has nothing to do with the fact that Riots, and the ability to focus on riots, were needed by the powers that be to both hide their screw up, and corral all the suburbanites into little tunnels of fear so that they shut up and vote people back into office.
and it most certainly had nothing to do with the fact that just asriots are done at night, so are other things peoplewant to keep hidden, like the sheer incomptence of the prosecutor who even hard core prosecutors state at the very least did things different, not frumalting and presenting a theory of guilt to a grande jury like every other Prosecutor does, but instead want to make this a "truth finding process". When will this become the new standard, hint, not when a young black person is beeing prosecuted.
The fires do burn in the night ferguson, but the match was a crime that was done in the courtroom, by people who, unlike Rioters, can use the law to make sure they are never held to account.
Side note. To all the people who leap on here and defend Wilson, just like you did Zimmerman, just like you willthe next time some angry dude with the right skin tone shoots some kid with the wrong skin tone, I say this: before the middle of this centiry, thetime when you and your kind can hide behind your skin color and prvileges thereof will be over. Even if you banned immigration tomorrow, the very money that is the base of that power is being given away to elites around the world. Even the PBR you are sucking down now is owned by China. When the foriegner comes to treat you like you treated them, do NOT expect tohide behind us, because those of us with the different skin tones know you never meant for US to share in what you thought this country was.
a minor little question about police shooting
Aamadu Diallo: shot 41 times.
Michael Brown: shot 12 times.
To ask a question that may seem trivial, but may be pertinent.
How the Hell do the cops not be judged as INCOMPETENT when they have to fire more than 6 shots to defend their lives against unarmed people?
Every shot fired is a shot that can hit an innocent bystander, or at least damage property.
We spend money traning these people with miltary grade weapons.
ANY YET, they feel so threatned by unarmed people that they feel compelled to empty more than a standard six shooter can hold?
A firing has six to 12 shooters. When she was shot, Mata Hari got hit by four, but only one hit her in a vital organ, the heart. She was killed instantly.
So these police are so scared they have to fire more bullets than it takes an average Firing Squad to execute someone with? In city streets where all it takes is one stray bullet to kill?
Go ahead, defend these cops, all it does is show that some people are so weak they hide behind their ammo clips, and that goes double for the same folks that keep defending heavy ammo clips everytime some jackass shoots up a schoolyard!
This nation flunked an exam tonight.
I remeber in 2008 being one of the people who thought that our nation had made some progress. I was under no illusion that we were anywhere near where we needed or wanted to be, but after years of so many circus clowns in the cockpit, I thought that, if nothing else, the nation was ready to start the long hard work.
Now, not only have we slid back, but we actually slid back further before the MLK era. As long as police, or for that matter, any white guy with a gun ( ala self appointed cop George Zimmerman) feels that they can shoot a black person and get exonerated, you will have scenarios that were unthinkable even in the pre MLK south. Add to this that, for all his faults (and yes, Obama has many), there is no longer the illusion that even if a minortiy member does everything White America asks him todo, he is still a second class citizen to be yelled at and threatened by a bunch of rich Whites. Don't think that Hillary will change that equation either, because even if he tries to act like a rich white man, the same people she woos will be the same people that would gladly have her executed live on Fox News Networks, to the sounds of many a "yee-Haw!" in so many honky tonks and PBR bars.
Make no mistake, the powers that be in Ferguson knew they would be applauded, as they were doing the people's will. This has codified that it is ok to shoot Black kids. This has codfied that black lives matter less, and most importantly, it is codified that cops get to use deadly froce. Funny how many of these people talk of Obama and Hillary as tyrants, how they invoke 1776 to stockpile weapons that most miltaries in the world shirk at. They talk of freedom and bravery and lIberty, and yet, they just empowered police to kill them. Oh beware Billy in the honk tonk, beware brad in the Suburbs, because if you think the Rich will not use that precdent to be used to shoot you, you are sadly mistaken. The Rich do not need Billy and Brad anymore, and they will use every weapon used against the Mtrays and Michaels to run over the same goold ole boys. Ask folks in the Southeast whose lands were stolen for fracking, ask people whose water is literal poison .
The end of Cheif Seattle's statement includes a warning. "wemight be brothers after all" Already he saw how many of the Cowboys that killed his people would find themselves shut out by the rich people movign in from the east. There will be a day when the same people cheering this will be the ones who are outnumbered, or simply outmuscled,, and they will learn what it is like when the powerfuldecide their lives do not matter. Sadly though, there will be no chance to retake this exam.
And I say this parting shot: to CERTAIN folks on DU, the same ones that proudly went "see, I told ya Zimmerman was innocent!," I issue this warning. Your attempts to hide your prejudice will not help you. The silver lining of the asskicing we got in the midrterms is that we no longer have to , as Rush Limbaugh would say "Carry water" for those on the left that are useless at best, backstabbers at worst. Expect the same sort of support you gave us, at best.
warren isn't running?
"Warren isn't running. It's insane to hold out for that non-existence. When someone repeatedly declares she is not running, and in fact also declares she's supporting someone else (um Hillary), and yet some continue to act like she is, we are seeing the very definition of living in an alternative universe. A psych eval is in order for that crowd. "
Just like neither Obama NOR Hillary admittedly they were running until they absolutly had to.
Look, I get that many Hillary supporters have been waiting the better part of a decade for her to win so that we can say "yay we have a woman president!" even though as our Brtish friends can tell you, having a lady is no guarantee of concern for the working class. The right wing there still worships Thatcher. I also sense that many of you are scared that someone will come and give you a repeat case of 2008, when the inveitabilty Myth was smashed into splinters. I understand many of you either do not care about Hillary's overtures to the right wing, or like her because of them.
Here is some advice, you are hurting Hillary by trying to kneecap the thought of anyone else. If this primary is a cornoation, the GOP will know it, and use it to make her look weak, as if she could only get the nomination by a bunch of people threatening any challengers with the whips of ridicule and the gallows of political arm twisting. They also knwo that Hillary's maoin target is that army of centrist voters who barely hate liberals less than the GOP. After all, they supposedly have the numbers, and will go for Hillary, except of course, when they go for the real Republican, like they always do in the midterms. And of course, provided that the GOP pulls someone that can hide their fascism well, they might go for this mushy middle again.
If Hillary really wanted to shut up talk of Warren, she might actually go left and get some voters that want her. Nothing is stopping her from that; if her huisband complains that he already supported the war in Syria or Keystone, pushing those dog whistles to undermine Obama, like caling him a "wuss", then she can tell him to SHUT UP and help her win!
another way to look at the ACA
some people say it is wonderful, and that we should bow before Obama for it
some people say it is gabagem ad should be toosed out.
The frist set of people ignore poeple that will be hurt by rising premiums
The second ignore people that have gotten health care for the first time, and who are getting it only because of ACA.
I say there is another way to look at it, using the analogy of school.
Every parent out there knows their children will need, at the very least, a high school diploma.
The seventh grade is a step towards that end, and yes, when the kid garudates form 7th grade, it is something to celebrate.
However, we do not allow the kid to think they are going to make a living with a 7th grade diploma, we see it as what it is , no more or less, a step forward towards a goal.
ACA was a step towards a goal, one that has to be cherishes, especially as BOTH parties , but ESPECIALLY the GOP, had agents who hated ANY help for the sick, period! However, we must USE ACA as a steeping stone to that eventual "diploma." To think that we can just let it go in hopes of getting Sedish style medical care is folly, because we know that REGARDLESS OF THE TRUTH, the Media will make sure the motto is "see, even those stoopid libruls did not want no gubbamint plan!"
Florida Democrats, depressed by 'rotten' election, struggle to move forward
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/depressed-by-rotten-results-florida-democrats-struggle-to-move-forward/2206419"It's hard. It's rotten. It's depressing," said the chairwoman of the Florida Democratic Party, Allison Tant, who promises to press ahead and finish her four-year term. "But I'm not going to walk away just because it's gotten harder. I don't have that in me."
But rather than unite, some Democrats are pointing fingers and seeking scapegoats.
Their target is state Rep. Mark Pafford, a soft-spoken lawmaker from West Palm Beach already chosen by his colleagues to lead the 38-member House Democratic caucus for the next two years. Humiliated by last week's losses, some Democrats want to replace Pafford with Rep. Dwayne Taylor, of Daytona Beach.
Tant is furious at what she calls a "circus" and is calling out Pafford's critics as "bed wetters" on the eve of a public vote Monday in Tallahassee.
"I'm pretty tired of this whole circular firing squad thing," Tant said as she pounded her fist on a conference table in an interview with the Times/Herald. "I'm ready for the bed-wetting to stop."
Ok, this is where this Flordian will vent, warning, bad language will follow
Ok Tant, you refuse to give up, yet this is the SECOND Democratic Gubernatorial candidate to lose by 1 percent and roll over.
You have the NERVE to call people unhappy with YOUR performance Bed-wetters. As far as the circular firign squad, why don't you ask your pal Debbie Wasserman Scultz about why her support of WINNING CANDIDATES like Alan Grayson is LUKEWARM? Rick Scott may never have been a factor if not for your incompetence, then again, neither might have Charlie Crist! Yet, if there is a liberal candidate, you and debbie throw them to the dogs. You depend on those ultra rich liberals in South Florida, the same idiots that fucked up their vote in 2000. And yet, you also asked Obama not to go for Immigartion reform, because you would rather cater to the white voters that are SKEEEERED of Hispanics rather than the Hispanics that are solid democrats.
The truth is simple...if the Democratic party is serious about winning, they need to get serious about Florida. Heaven help us if Jeb runs, because his fucking machine alreayd has experience in throwing elections, and it does not help the Rick Scott is in the driver's seat. Of course, that would mean the demcorats have to get serious about getting rid of incompetent leadership, and that include both you, and yes, Debbie Wasserman Schultz! If we are going to be a minoryt party in this state, we can at least clear the deadwood and prepare to actually FIGHT!
a question about liberal voting
To lay my card down, I support Warren, and frankly do not like Hillary Clinton. I hate the DLC, third way/whatever diguise they say.
However,I have a question that all those who are liberal need to answer.
Suppose we ditch Clinton, and run aliberal, and that liberal loses. What do we do to counteract the argument that will be made "SEE, liberal lose, the country hates you, you need ta move to da right!"
what Florida can tell us about the election.
OK, the Florida Democratic party, in it's wisond (sarcasm) run someone for Givernor that many Democrats remember as Governor, namely as a not so good Governor. He lost by one damn percentage point, after elections hijinks, and the conceded, just like Alex Sink did.
Meanwhile , Alan grayson, he who gets yelled at by Debbie Wasserman Schultz, wins AGAIN.
See a pattern?
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