March 22, 2016

C'mon, he just misspoke.

Every once in a while, he screws up and tells the truth. So many lies to keep track of, anybody might do the same.

He misspoke here too. I just saw this, and it blows my mind. This proves that Hillary as President is just a front for Bill's third term. What a feminist milestone she's setting, right? She is such a fraud, and so is he. This is from May 2011...

Selling us out to the billionaires like they always do. ISN'T IT FUNNY HOW DEMS GET ALONG WITH REPUBS WHEN THEY WANT TO?

Now what was today's meme again, about a "legacy of Republican obstruction"???

Sure. And if you believe that one, they've got a million more lies to tell you.

Meanwhile, all these paid off liars are cozily joining together in getting rid of what's left of our safety net behind our backs. They make sure to do it in events like that whcih none of our class could afford to go to, that's where they're all safe and friendly with each other.

What we see is nothing but kabuki theater.

Bernie is telling us the truth about politics today, and standing up to it to change it. Of course they hate his guts. He's trying to end their gravy train, which comes out of the increased pay and quality of life stolen from the rest of us.

March 21, 2016

I don't think people are going to accept that.

I know I wouldn't. It smacks of 1968 and Hubert Humphrey.

If the party thinks they're going to get away with that, I think they're delusional. I'm sure there would be a concerted effort to target and defeat for re-election any Super who did that.

There wouldn't be a Dem left in Congress for 2020. State level too.

If that's the level of betrayal the party wants, they can have it... "scorched earth to the sea".

March 20, 2016

There's too much money on the table.

Details here:

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/01/30/clinton-system-donor-machine-2016-election/

And it likely ties in to the email scandal, as the reason for not using the government server -- she didn't want the payoff system found out,

The smart move would have been, if you're going to take all that money then don't run for President. Just walk away and keep it. I'm not condoning it, just saying it would have been the common sense thing to do.

But Hillary just HAS TO be President too. Her ego won't allow her to not grab for that chance, being within grabbing distance. And so now, she has made it pretty much inevitable that she will get caught for all of this, dragging all of us in the public who have no choice but to depend on her, if nominated, and the Dem party and this election down with her. She doesn't seem the slightest bit concerned about the inescapable bind she would be putting us in (if selected), by insisting on being the nominee.

I don't see any way that this doesn't end in a scandal that makes Bill's previous ones look like just a little bad press. It's a train wreck coming. It isn't a matter of her being charged with a crime or not, the fact of what she and Bill have done is already out there in the public (the article above and others), there's no putting it back in Pandora's box. The ONLY question is when the train wreck hits. We don't have much time to jump off the train. Once she's chosen, we're screwed.

One or two articles today will be five next week, and ten the week after. Shall we take bets on how long it will take to go boom! while we wait for it to happen? Lawyers can't fix the political consquences of this. That will fall squarely on us.

March 19, 2016

Very definitely.

Scandal one:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511524355#top

Scandal two:
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/01/30/clinton-system-donor-machine-2016-election/

Put them together and it spells TRAIN WRECK.

March 19, 2016

Agreed. Bernie and Hillary are nothing alike.

Their actual agendas are nothing alike. "Evolving" for the campaign doesn't count. Assuming Bernie voters will vote for Hillary is delusional. And btw.

Adding Super Delegates in now as if they can't change...

Talk of Hillary already being the nominee...

Saying that Bernie can't win...

Saying that Bernie should drop out...

Talk of unity...

IT IS ALL VOTER SUPPRESSION.

If is to discourage people who haven't voted yet from voting for Sanders.

March 19, 2016

My favorite feature is "Trash Thread"

I've never used ignore, so far. We'll see if that changes. This is my 2 cents on what I do to cope with the most aggravating stuff, and it has been working pretty well for me...

I throw all the junk threads that come to the top of the forum page in the Trash Can (I have some set to go there by keyword). That way, I don't keep seeing it re-kicked over and over again, and more of the interesting threads fit on the forum page. Sometimes I'll open the thread just to see what it's about, and then bang in the can it goes.

Certain posters' OPs never have anything to say except flame bait and fly paper. Ideally it would be cool if bs was debunked, and then one person posted LIS (let it sink) and we all let it do that. Replying just keeps it alive, and there's no point in it.

If it's a contentious thread but still something I want to know about, I'll very often only read the replies to the original post -- I'll skip past the deep subthreads. I'll only look at those if they come from a first reply that I was interested in or if they're by posters I respect. Troll's subthreads, I never read. I notice that very often they like to create those very near the beginning of the thread, so there's a long line of diversionary crap at the top.

My own replies -- I'll usually only reply direct to the OP. If known harassers reply to something I post, I almost never reply back. They don't exist to me.

Basically my m.o., for what it's worth, with this kind of climate is: keep the garbage out of my view, and don't engage with known shir stirrers. Every once in a while I'll make an exception, but not often.

Heck I very often don't reply to people I like a lot too, but that doesn't mean anything. Just means I don't have anything to add, usually, or I wasn't online for a while.

The last few years I have been donating a good bit more than usual to DU during the Valentine's Day heart week, but I might not do that again if the current problems get much worse. I know there are other options.

March 17, 2016

Nah, this one...

With Bernie, "We're goin' to the end of the line... "

On a darker note, this feels metaphorically like the abusive relationship the progressive "FDR Dems" are in, at least for now, with the current DLC/Third Way neolib establishment.



Resolving such relationships takes going through a process, which right now many are in varying stages of... some just catching on and some well along into it. I do believe that a solution will come from it.

March 16, 2016

$2 billion in free air time, and yet at the same time

everybody's trying to figure out how to stop Trump. Something is very wrong with this picture.

$2 billion

March 15, 2016

Free trade is a race to the bottom.

It brings down wages in prosperous countries and perpetuates poverty wages in outsourced countries (plus sending pollution there).

It's like water, you can't have unequal levels or the higher level of water will flow down to the lower level, like a waterfall. If the only goal is to tear the US down without improving the rest of the world, then that's a good way to do it; otherwise, it accomplishes nothing.

Other countries need to bring their wages up, and make products to sell to their own people. That is how creating a consumer market is done. It will work for other countries as it has worked for us here.

Look up Henry Ford, who made Ford cars, he insisted on paying his employees a lot more than other car companies so they could afford to buy his cars, and so of course he sold a lot more cars than his competitors. It worked. It always works.

March 15, 2016

The 5% population fallacy. Rubio said it too.

The number of people we have is irrelevant to how much of the world's buying power we are.

We are 27% of the global consumer market.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_consumer_markets

We don't need to trade with the world, we would do BETTER only selling to ourselves. Why? because then all of us would be employed (as it used to be) and at very high income (as it used to be, relatively speaking), with much better quality of life... except for the class that is vastly overpaid now at our expense.

Bankers, top executives, stars and such used to make a lot less. Why? Another sane idea called a 92% top tax rate for excessively high incomes. It stops people paying themselves ridiculous amounts of money just because they can.

This is not a theory, it was done before and worked fabulously well. Lots of things we used to do worked fabulously well. That's why we were #1 in the world in almost every measurable category.