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If anybody is unfamiliar with the Auden/Thucydides reference...

(I had to look it up)

Exiled Thucydides knew
All that a speech can say
About Democracy,
And what dictators do,
The elderly rubbish they talk
To an apathetic grave ...

Thucydides was unjustly exiled from democratic Athens for a military failure, at which he point he wrote his great history of the Peloponnesian War that contains Pericles’ paean to democracy (the strongest pro-democratic statement of ancient times). Thucydides probably presents Pericles’ speech ironically. He implies that it is propaganda; in fact, self-interest explains all politics. Thucydides, Auden thinks, “analyzed all in his book … / The habit-forming pain, / Mismanagement and grief.”

In stanza 4, we are back in New York, where “blind skyscrapers” reach into the “neutral air.” One sense of “neutral” may be political: the United States is neutral in the war, hence at peace, but also complicit because we do nothing to stop Hitler. Auden is a citizen of a combatant nation who is guiltily safe in neutral Manhattan. Neutrality had been a characteristic failure of the “low dishonest decade” that Auden invoked in the first stanza. The Western democracies chose to be neutral in the Spanish Civil War, which made them complicit to fascist rule. Most of New York’s “blind skyscrapers” house private enterprises, ostensibly free and private, but Auden compares them to the grandiose structures of Berlin and Moscow. New York’s buildings, too, “use / their full height to proclaim / The strength of Collective Man.” The ideology that drives them is presumably “imperialism,” a mirror for the ideologies of Europe.

An essay here:


Who said, "The road to fascism is lined with people telling you that you're


It's always "farfetched" until afterwards, when people start telling you it was "obvious all along."

This is a seriously important article

Sean Wilentz, a professor of history at Princeton, was outspoken:

It would be not simply a major departure but a deeply dangerous one were Trump to deny the legitimacy of Biden’s election. It would be a brutal renunciation of American democracy. It would create not simply a fissure but a chasm in the nation’s politics and government, telling his tens of millions of supporters as well as his congressional backers to reject Biden’s presidency. It would be an act of disloyalty unsurpassed in American history except by the southern secession in 1860-61, the ultimate example of Americans refusing to respect the outcome of a presidential election.

This lines up eerily with what Thomas Friedman has been saying, that our nation hasn't been in such peril since the days of the Civil War.

Thank you for posting.

This seems like quite an important poll that should put to rest the

oft-repeated talking point that "Half the country thinks Trump won", which doesn't really make sense anyway when you think about it and break it down into percentages.

Less than half the people who voted in this election voted for Trump. That still leaves a large number of people who didn't vote in the election, and not every person who voted for Trump believes he won the election. Just the extremely stupid and brainwashed ones.

Thank you. I'm so sick of the GSA-Delay apologists.

Leon Panetta called it bullshit last night. Something tells me he is in a position to know.

It's the *attempt* to retain power that worries me.

We're beyond "plausible" and "implausible."

I'm done being told there's nothing to see here.

And that theory that the GOP is playing along to allow Trump "time to deal with his grief"...
is fuckinig horsehit.

What Bill Barr did last night wasn't part of a scheme to "give Trump space." What a crock of shit!


Some really smart people agree with us. Like Leon Panetta, General McCaffrey, Steve Schmidt and others.

Esper yesterday: "God help us." Esper ran the Pentagon!

Have you watched the documentary #UNFIT yet? Another dozen people in that movie agree, including two experts on fascism (including Ruth Ben-Ghiat).

Last night, Thomas Friedman also said this is as close to peril as we've been since the Civil War.

I don't make many posts about it, but I am not in the "Shut Up, everything's going to work out just great, you're a fool for not sleeping well" camp.

Ronna McDaniel didn't do enough? She tried to break the law (and still might be):

The RNC is recruiting Republican activists across the nation to make false claims of election fraud


I hope this story isn't forgotten.

Happy Birthday, Rickie Lee

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