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December 14, 2013
Yes, that is a fetus.
Resister in the Rockies
"We beg no longer; we entreat no more; we petition no more. We defy them!" ~ William Jennings Bryan, 1896
http://co-ironwill.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-51st-state-initiative-blog.html
Their viewpoint:
Another viewpoint:
Colorado Counties Want To Form 51st State To Avoid Environmental Protections
By Nicole Flatow on July 11, 2013
At least ten rural Colorado counties are taking aggressive steps to form a 51st state, saying their interests are not being met by moves to regulate the oil and gas industry, increase renewable energy, and better regulate guns. Organizers in Kansas and Nebraska are also interested in joining the state they call “North Colorado.”
Organizers met this week to draw up boundaries of the new state, as part of an ambitious schedule to draft a ballot initiative by August 1, and get a proposal before the voters in November. Congress must approve admission of a new state into the Union. But the U.S. Constitution also requires that secession of parts of any existing state be approved both by the voters and legislature of that state. This means Colorado would have to approve of the counties’ secession, as would Kansas and Nebraska if parts of those states wanted to join. One of the ten counties that initiated the movement, Weld County, is larger than Delaware and Rhode Island, according to a county commissioner.
One of the laws that movement representatives say “broke the camel’s back” requires rural energy cooperatives to get 20 percent of their energy from renewable sources by 2020. The current goal is ten percent. While Gov. John Hickenlooper (D) signed the bill into law, he also signed an executive order committing to make an independent assessment of whether the 20 percent requirement is feasible, and to revisit the legislation next session if need be. The organizers also cite several failed bills to regulate the oil and gas industry that would have increased fines for violations of state law, and imposed other measures to address the fast-increasing number of both wells and oil spills and contaminations in Colorado over the last several years.
Proponents of the movement say the legislature is not recognizing its “main economic drivers, agriculture and energy.” But these energy-heavy rural counties are also particularly vulnerable to environmental degradation, which is why some residents have voiced strong opposition to the movement. “I don’t want be in a 51st state,” Washington County resident Steve Frey told the local CBS affiliate. “I don’t want any part of their fracking that they’re doing in Weld County...”
More at link:
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/07/11/2288901/colorado-counties-want-to-form-51st-state-to-avoid-environmental-protections/
I think the Koch brothers are behind this. They have been reported to have their own military forces in Colorado. Been reported on DU.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014572446#post16
With recalls of elected officials for gun control, the Koch family firmly embedded there, and a lot of NRA money, he'll be closer to his financial backers and cultural soul mates.
Most likely he'll bring his latest conquest and her son up there to join the group and make more little zimmies. It's another win-win for him.
As for those in Blue Colorado, you have my sympathy.
Maybe he'll move to North Colorado to get closer to his roots:
Yes, that is a fetus.
Resister in the Rockies
"We beg no longer; we entreat no more; we petition no more. We defy them!" ~ William Jennings Bryan, 1896
http://co-ironwill.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-51st-state-initiative-blog.html
Their viewpoint:
Another viewpoint:
Colorado Counties Want To Form 51st State To Avoid Environmental Protections
By Nicole Flatow on July 11, 2013
At least ten rural Colorado counties are taking aggressive steps to form a 51st state, saying their interests are not being met by moves to regulate the oil and gas industry, increase renewable energy, and better regulate guns. Organizers in Kansas and Nebraska are also interested in joining the state they call “North Colorado.”
Organizers met this week to draw up boundaries of the new state, as part of an ambitious schedule to draft a ballot initiative by August 1, and get a proposal before the voters in November. Congress must approve admission of a new state into the Union. But the U.S. Constitution also requires that secession of parts of any existing state be approved both by the voters and legislature of that state. This means Colorado would have to approve of the counties’ secession, as would Kansas and Nebraska if parts of those states wanted to join. One of the ten counties that initiated the movement, Weld County, is larger than Delaware and Rhode Island, according to a county commissioner.
One of the laws that movement representatives say “broke the camel’s back” requires rural energy cooperatives to get 20 percent of their energy from renewable sources by 2020. The current goal is ten percent. While Gov. John Hickenlooper (D) signed the bill into law, he also signed an executive order committing to make an independent assessment of whether the 20 percent requirement is feasible, and to revisit the legislation next session if need be. The organizers also cite several failed bills to regulate the oil and gas industry that would have increased fines for violations of state law, and imposed other measures to address the fast-increasing number of both wells and oil spills and contaminations in Colorado over the last several years.
Proponents of the movement say the legislature is not recognizing its “main economic drivers, agriculture and energy.” But these energy-heavy rural counties are also particularly vulnerable to environmental degradation, which is why some residents have voiced strong opposition to the movement. “I don’t want be in a 51st state,” Washington County resident Steve Frey told the local CBS affiliate. “I don’t want any part of their fracking that they’re doing in Weld County...”
More at link:
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/07/11/2288901/colorado-counties-want-to-form-51st-state-to-avoid-environmental-protections/
I think the Koch brothers are behind this. They have been reported to have their own military forces in Colorado. Been reported on DU.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014572446#post16
With recalls of elected officials for gun control, the Koch family firmly embedded there, and a lot of NRA money, he'll be closer to his financial backers and cultural soul mates.
Most likely he'll bring his latest conquest and her son up there to join the group and make more little zimmies. It's another win-win for him.
As for those in Blue Colorado, you have my sympathy.
December 14, 2013
I always find time to listen to this at this time of year. It has more than one set of lyrics:
Greensleeves:
Greensleeves
Alas, my love, you do me wrong,
To cast me off discourteously.
For I have loved you well and long,
Delighting in your company.
Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lover Greensleeves.
Your vows you've broken, like my heart,
Oh, why did you so enrapture me?
Now I remain in a world apart
But my heart remains in captivity.
Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lover Greensleeves.
I have been ready at your hand,
To grant whatever you would crave,
I have both wagered life and land,
Your love and good-will for to have.
Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lover Greensleeves.
If you intend thus to disdain,
It does the more enrapture me,
And even so, I still remain
A lover in captivity.
Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lover Greensleeves.
My men were clothed all in green,
And they did ever wait on thee;
All this was gallant to be seen,
And yet thou wouldst not love me.
Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lover Greensleeves.
Thou couldst desire no earthly thing,
but still thou hadst it readily.
Thy music still to play and sing;
And yet thou wouldst not love me.
Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lover Greensleeves.
Well, I will pray to God on high,
that thou my constancy mayst see,
And that yet once before I die,
Thou wilt vouchsafe to love me.
Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lover Greensleeves.
Ah, Greensleeves, now farewell, adieu,
To God I pray to prosper thee,
For I am still thy lover true,
Come once again and love me.
Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lover Greensleeves.
What Child Is This ~ Josh Groban
What child is this who laid to rest
On Mary's lap is sleeping
Whom angels greet with anthems sweet
While shepherds watch are keeping
So bring Him incense, gold, and myrrh
Come peasant king to own Him
The King of kings, salvation brings
Let loving hearts enthrone Him
This, this is Christ the King
Whom shepherds guard and angels sing
Haste, haste to bring him laud
The babe, the son of Mary
Raise, raise a song on high,
The mother sings her lullaby.
Joy, o joy for Christ is born,
The Babe, the Son of Mary
This, this is Christ the King,
Whom shepherds guard and Angels sing;
Haste, haste, to bring Him laud,
The Babe, the Son of Mary.
What Child is this who, laid to rest
On Mary's lap, on Mary's lap is sleeping?
This, this is Christ the King
Whom shepherds guard and angels sing
Haste, haste to bring him laud
The babe, the son of Mary
The babe, the son of Mary
the son of Mary.
They both make me cry.
Lovely piano there. Here's a piano piece with scenery from Washington State. Greensleeves:
I always find time to listen to this at this time of year. It has more than one set of lyrics:
Greensleeves:
Greensleeves
Alas, my love, you do me wrong,
To cast me off discourteously.
For I have loved you well and long,
Delighting in your company.
Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lover Greensleeves.
Your vows you've broken, like my heart,
Oh, why did you so enrapture me?
Now I remain in a world apart
But my heart remains in captivity.
Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lover Greensleeves.
I have been ready at your hand,
To grant whatever you would crave,
I have both wagered life and land,
Your love and good-will for to have.
Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lover Greensleeves.
If you intend thus to disdain,
It does the more enrapture me,
And even so, I still remain
A lover in captivity.
Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lover Greensleeves.
My men were clothed all in green,
And they did ever wait on thee;
All this was gallant to be seen,
And yet thou wouldst not love me.
Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lover Greensleeves.
Thou couldst desire no earthly thing,
but still thou hadst it readily.
Thy music still to play and sing;
And yet thou wouldst not love me.
Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lover Greensleeves.
Well, I will pray to God on high,
that thou my constancy mayst see,
And that yet once before I die,
Thou wilt vouchsafe to love me.
Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lover Greensleeves.
Ah, Greensleeves, now farewell, adieu,
To God I pray to prosper thee,
For I am still thy lover true,
Come once again and love me.
Chorus:
Greensleeves was all my joy
Greensleeves was my delight,
Greensleeves was my heart of gold,
And who but my lover Greensleeves.
What Child Is This ~ Josh Groban
What child is this who laid to rest
On Mary's lap is sleeping
Whom angels greet with anthems sweet
While shepherds watch are keeping
So bring Him incense, gold, and myrrh
Come peasant king to own Him
The King of kings, salvation brings
Let loving hearts enthrone Him
This, this is Christ the King
Whom shepherds guard and angels sing
Haste, haste to bring him laud
The babe, the son of Mary
Raise, raise a song on high,
The mother sings her lullaby.
Joy, o joy for Christ is born,
The Babe, the Son of Mary
This, this is Christ the King,
Whom shepherds guard and Angels sing;
Haste, haste, to bring Him laud,
The Babe, the Son of Mary.
What Child is this who, laid to rest
On Mary's lap, on Mary's lap is sleeping?
This, this is Christ the King
Whom shepherds guard and angels sing
Haste, haste to bring him laud
The babe, the son of Mary
The babe, the son of Mary
the son of Mary.
They both make me cry.
December 14, 2013
Getting the job done that should have been done years ago is 'spiteful' now? Bullshit!
Lamar is trying to deflect attention off his pedophile pal this week. Wants his poutrage party in the news, instead of the 'GOP rising star' who got caught. LOL@GOP:
December 13, 2013
Wikileaks on "Climategate"
Uploaded on Jul 8, 2010
... Fight with the truth
Skewed and partial e-mails do not disprove anthropogenic climate change.
Gavin Schmidt of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies sums it up:
"There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research ... no admission that global warming is a hoax, no evidence of the falsifying of data, and no 'marching orders' from shadowy socialist/communist/vegetarian overlords."
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/
No minds were changed there. Always suspect these meetings with lapdog listeners, though. I didn't elect these characters and they cannot be held to account for anything they do, they either naively or purposefully promote propaganda. At this time, it is paid by the Koch brothers, extreme right billionaires and are corporatist. They play upon the lower societal groups who can be homophobic, misogynist and/or racist.
As to the second video, I didn't watch it until today. Just the image of the two made me sick. The fascist Paul family, like Dick Armey and the rest, and their financial backers the Koch brothers, should give anyone pause. RP is loving on Asssange, who is off into this own little world, not responding to Paul in slogans, which is a plus.
Assange comes off well in all these videos. explaining things in a philosophical fashion. He is remote as the end result of what Paul and Libertarians plan to do will NOT effect him personally.
Paul's running buddies in the Tea Party are killing people with their state by state actions and likely using Assange to screw with the Democrats. Note that Paul has a definite bias, his voice turning sour as he says 'even progressives' which is the same as any GOPher, from Rush to Beck to O'Reilly, and would have had a stroke if he had to say 'Democrats, liberals, socialists and communists are good people, too' a hundred times. It's their version of the Nazi attitude on Jews, same inflection.
The Pauls and the Koches are intent on laissez faire capitalist rule, dismantling the social contract, and rule by the few. Anyone on RPTV, is suspect as they are firmly against civil rights for us lesser folks.
I am more than capable of seeing an ideal separate from a personality. But a further look to the effects than is expressed idealistically is required. One must actually THINK. One has to go around slogans and presentation and realize how this stuff shakes out in real life and not in media.
Ensnaring some by getting them all starry eyed about liberty, freedom and the Constitution is like shooting fish in a barrel. The Tea Party and Paulites don't believe in anything but the free market and put a dollar sign on everything.
This is immoral and it cannot be defined thus and have a good end. When they talk about government, welfare, debt and dependency, I'll tell them: Deficit, my ass.
The video posted, has many parts and I watched them all:
Julian Assange talks to Ron Paul
The comments section are quite revealing of this cult and their power to bring up ideas which concern everyone. But their actions, and those of Assange's party in Australia, betray the lofty words with their harsh treatment of women, the poor and minorities, and their rabid free marketeering.
They don't support labor rights, which is how the poor stop being used as scapegoats and pawns and get a measure of political clout. They represent the plutocracy and most of us will not be protected.
A look at Rand's voting record and the legislation he's pushed, which he has held the nation hostage over is totally against the poor, women, gays, labor and the environment.
They want the USA gone, and we are just collateral damage while they divide us up into Koch brothers style kingdoms. It will be a very. ugly and brutal world order for most. I suggest a read of David Sirota's piece here to know what their ideas are backing, as there is never a vacuum in power:
When “free” trade trumps U.S. law
...When it comes to “free” trade, Ralph Nader (among others) often makes a profound but taboo observation: “True free trade would take only one page for a trade agreement,” he says before typically asking, “How come there are hundreds of pages and thousands of regulations” in these pacts?
The answer is that so-called free trade agreements (i.e., NAFTA, bilateral NAFTA replicas, the WTO regime, etc.) are free only of protections for human beings — that is, free of provisions that preserve, say, labor rights, human rights and the environment. But those deals’ “hundreds of pages” are chock-full of protectionist provisions for multinational companies — provisions that, for example, allow foreign firms to sue governments for lost profits and empower international panels to unilaterally override a nation’s domestic laws if those laws reduce corporate revenues...
For example, will foreign oil/gas drilling companies operating in the United States be able to cite this precedent to overturn American laws that restrict the environmentally questionable practice of hydraulic fracking? Will multinational agribusiness firms be able to cite the precedent to invalidate recent food safety legislation? And what about Chinese durable manufacturers selling into the American market — will they be able to cite the precedent to overturn a recent statute banning child products that contain too much lead?
The fact that such questions need to be asked is an indictment of both the “free” trade label and the underlying agreements themselves...
http://www.salon.com/2011/05/24/free_trade_corporations/
The Paulites and other libertarians Assange says are correct, have this thing about national soveriegnty, but when I said to THINK, this is what I mean.
Their free market philosophy strips the living of any rights. Makes the entire planet a market for those positioned to take advantage of other humans. Their freedom and liberty, thus do not extend to others not so situated, and is the reason they seek wealth no matter how garnered, or who is destroyed, to survive in their dystopia that does not even value them, but only their money.
The Tea Party and Paulites who think they will get a chance to rise in that society with any form of morals, Bill of Rights or an edited Constitutional government, are supporting those who intend to bypass all of that as antique.
They are fools to think they can have both at the same time, the same as those who think they can maintain their rights while denying them to anyone else they call worthless.
Nordquist said they have a plan to rewrite America in the image they want, disavowing the protections they say they are fighting to protect under the laws of the USA. Any support of Paul is like voting for ALEC, Palin, Bachmann, the Walkers, Scotts, Christies to rule our lives in the most intimate ways.
People haven't truly had the full experience of what they have planned, can and do go batshit over this or that, but that feudal system they pretend won't be part of their life, will be in force the rest of our lives and generations after. There has been a lot written about the covert funding fo fhese groups, and here is an SPLC article about the founder of the Oathkeepers:
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/07/oath-keepers-heart-snowden
About the Oathkeepers, and their part in our nation's politics:
Oath Keepers Rally Reveals Radical Politics of Group
By Ryan Lenz on July 25, 2013
...There will be seminars on Agenda 21, a United Nations sustainability plan that has no legal enforcement mechanisms or requirements, but that the radical right is convinced is a secret plot to impose socialism on the United States.
There will be representatives from the John Birch Society — a primary proponent of the Agenda 21 conspiracy theory, the idea that fluoridation of water is a Communist plot, and the charge that President Dwight D. Eisenhower was a Communist agent. Also scheduled to attend are Sheriff Richard Mack, a long-time darling of the antigovernment “Patriot” movement who has been encouraging county sheriffs to resist federal gun laws, and Chuck Baldwin, a far-right pastor and “constitutionalist” who moved to Montana several years ago to battle the incursions of the federal government...
Most recently, Mark Kessler, a self-described Oath Keeper and police chief in tiny Gilberton, Penn., formed a paramilitary militia group called the Constitutional Security Force to fight against proposed gun control legislation. Few knew of it until this week, when Kessler posted a profanity-laced video online that got wide attention. “Fuck all you lib-tards out there,” a heavily armed Kessler says in the video. “As a matter of fact, read my shirt,” he says, turning around to show the camera a T-shirt printed with the words, “Liberals take it in the ass.”
Rhodes has shown his paranoia about a coming dictatorship, or loss of freedom, before. Two years ago, he moved to Montana to be part of an “American Redoubt” to make a kind of last-ditch defense of the Constitution. Now, with his latest set of friends in Idaho, he seems to have gone even further to the extreme right...
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/07/25/oath-keepers-rally-reveals-radical-politics-of-group/
This is why they SAY government must be disbanded, but they would allow corporatists or theocrats to take its place.
Transparency? Privacy? No such things with undemocratic groups that run on such heirarhies. They will kill the mind and body. I've read stories that claim it would take thousands of years to overturn what they have laid out, and by then, who knows what humanity will be doing to each other and the planet by then.
The freedom we take for granted from progressive legislation will be a distant memory, but more than likely, forbidden knowledge if not forgotten. Not all revolutions, like the RP one, have a happy ending.
Okay
and I must get some coffee as I am not fully awake after having had a bad night.
EDITed to clarify.
The first with the description, having read comments, appears neutral. I'll go along:
Wikileaks on "Climategate"
Uploaded on Jul 8, 2010
... Fight with the truth
Skewed and partial e-mails do not disprove anthropogenic climate change.
Gavin Schmidt of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies sums it up:
"There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research ... no admission that global warming is a hoax, no evidence of the falsifying of data, and no 'marching orders' from shadowy socialist/communist/vegetarian overlords."
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/
No minds were changed there. Always suspect these meetings with lapdog listeners, though. I didn't elect these characters and they cannot be held to account for anything they do, they either naively or purposefully promote propaganda. At this time, it is paid by the Koch brothers, extreme right billionaires and are corporatist. They play upon the lower societal groups who can be homophobic, misogynist and/or racist.
As to the second video, I didn't watch it until today. Just the image of the two made me sick. The fascist Paul family, like Dick Armey and the rest, and their financial backers the Koch brothers, should give anyone pause. RP is loving on Asssange, who is off into this own little world, not responding to Paul in slogans, which is a plus.
Assange comes off well in all these videos. explaining things in a philosophical fashion. He is remote as the end result of what Paul and Libertarians plan to do will NOT effect him personally.
Paul's running buddies in the Tea Party are killing people with their state by state actions and likely using Assange to screw with the Democrats. Note that Paul has a definite bias, his voice turning sour as he says 'even progressives' which is the same as any GOPher, from Rush to Beck to O'Reilly, and would have had a stroke if he had to say 'Democrats, liberals, socialists and communists are good people, too' a hundred times. It's their version of the Nazi attitude on Jews, same inflection.
The Pauls and the Koches are intent on laissez faire capitalist rule, dismantling the social contract, and rule by the few. Anyone on RPTV, is suspect as they are firmly against civil rights for us lesser folks.
I am more than capable of seeing an ideal separate from a personality. But a further look to the effects than is expressed idealistically is required. One must actually THINK. One has to go around slogans and presentation and realize how this stuff shakes out in real life and not in media.
Ensnaring some by getting them all starry eyed about liberty, freedom and the Constitution is like shooting fish in a barrel. The Tea Party and Paulites don't believe in anything but the free market and put a dollar sign on everything.
This is immoral and it cannot be defined thus and have a good end. When they talk about government, welfare, debt and dependency, I'll tell them: Deficit, my ass.
The video posted, has many parts and I watched them all:
Julian Assange talks to Ron Paul
The comments section are quite revealing of this cult and their power to bring up ideas which concern everyone. But their actions, and those of Assange's party in Australia, betray the lofty words with their harsh treatment of women, the poor and minorities, and their rabid free marketeering.
They don't support labor rights, which is how the poor stop being used as scapegoats and pawns and get a measure of political clout. They represent the plutocracy and most of us will not be protected.
A look at Rand's voting record and the legislation he's pushed, which he has held the nation hostage over is totally against the poor, women, gays, labor and the environment.
They want the USA gone, and we are just collateral damage while they divide us up into Koch brothers style kingdoms. It will be a very. ugly and brutal world order for most. I suggest a read of David Sirota's piece here to know what their ideas are backing, as there is never a vacuum in power:
When “free” trade trumps U.S. law
...When it comes to “free” trade, Ralph Nader (among others) often makes a profound but taboo observation: “True free trade would take only one page for a trade agreement,” he says before typically asking, “How come there are hundreds of pages and thousands of regulations” in these pacts?
The answer is that so-called free trade agreements (i.e., NAFTA, bilateral NAFTA replicas, the WTO regime, etc.) are free only of protections for human beings — that is, free of provisions that preserve, say, labor rights, human rights and the environment. But those deals’ “hundreds of pages” are chock-full of protectionist provisions for multinational companies — provisions that, for example, allow foreign firms to sue governments for lost profits and empower international panels to unilaterally override a nation’s domestic laws if those laws reduce corporate revenues...
For example, will foreign oil/gas drilling companies operating in the United States be able to cite this precedent to overturn American laws that restrict the environmentally questionable practice of hydraulic fracking? Will multinational agribusiness firms be able to cite the precedent to invalidate recent food safety legislation? And what about Chinese durable manufacturers selling into the American market — will they be able to cite the precedent to overturn a recent statute banning child products that contain too much lead?
The fact that such questions need to be asked is an indictment of both the “free” trade label and the underlying agreements themselves...
http://www.salon.com/2011/05/24/free_trade_corporations/
The Paulites and other libertarians Assange says are correct, have this thing about national soveriegnty, but when I said to THINK, this is what I mean.
Their free market philosophy strips the living of any rights. Makes the entire planet a market for those positioned to take advantage of other humans. Their freedom and liberty, thus do not extend to others not so situated, and is the reason they seek wealth no matter how garnered, or who is destroyed, to survive in their dystopia that does not even value them, but only their money.
The Tea Party and Paulites who think they will get a chance to rise in that society with any form of morals, Bill of Rights or an edited Constitutional government, are supporting those who intend to bypass all of that as antique.
They are fools to think they can have both at the same time, the same as those who think they can maintain their rights while denying them to anyone else they call worthless.
Nordquist said they have a plan to rewrite America in the image they want, disavowing the protections they say they are fighting to protect under the laws of the USA. Any support of Paul is like voting for ALEC, Palin, Bachmann, the Walkers, Scotts, Christies to rule our lives in the most intimate ways.
People haven't truly had the full experience of what they have planned, can and do go batshit over this or that, but that feudal system they pretend won't be part of their life, will be in force the rest of our lives and generations after. There has been a lot written about the covert funding fo fhese groups, and here is an SPLC article about the founder of the Oathkeepers:
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/07/oath-keepers-heart-snowden
About the Oathkeepers, and their part in our nation's politics:
Oath Keepers Rally Reveals Radical Politics of Group
By Ryan Lenz on July 25, 2013
...There will be seminars on Agenda 21, a United Nations sustainability plan that has no legal enforcement mechanisms or requirements, but that the radical right is convinced is a secret plot to impose socialism on the United States.
There will be representatives from the John Birch Society — a primary proponent of the Agenda 21 conspiracy theory, the idea that fluoridation of water is a Communist plot, and the charge that President Dwight D. Eisenhower was a Communist agent. Also scheduled to attend are Sheriff Richard Mack, a long-time darling of the antigovernment “Patriot” movement who has been encouraging county sheriffs to resist federal gun laws, and Chuck Baldwin, a far-right pastor and “constitutionalist” who moved to Montana several years ago to battle the incursions of the federal government...
Most recently, Mark Kessler, a self-described Oath Keeper and police chief in tiny Gilberton, Penn., formed a paramilitary militia group called the Constitutional Security Force to fight against proposed gun control legislation. Few knew of it until this week, when Kessler posted a profanity-laced video online that got wide attention. “Fuck all you lib-tards out there,” a heavily armed Kessler says in the video. “As a matter of fact, read my shirt,” he says, turning around to show the camera a T-shirt printed with the words, “Liberals take it in the ass.”
Rhodes has shown his paranoia about a coming dictatorship, or loss of freedom, before. Two years ago, he moved to Montana to be part of an “American Redoubt” to make a kind of last-ditch defense of the Constitution. Now, with his latest set of friends in Idaho, he seems to have gone even further to the extreme right...
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/07/25/oath-keepers-rally-reveals-radical-politics-of-group/
This is why they SAY government must be disbanded, but they would allow corporatists or theocrats to take its place.
Transparency? Privacy? No such things with undemocratic groups that run on such heirarhies. They will kill the mind and body. I've read stories that claim it would take thousands of years to overturn what they have laid out, and by then, who knows what humanity will be doing to each other and the planet by then.
The freedom we take for granted from progressive legislation will be a distant memory, but more than likely, forbidden knowledge if not forgotten. Not all revolutions, like the RP one, have a happy ending.
Okay
and I must get some coffee as I am not fully awake after having had a bad night.
EDITed to clarify.
December 13, 2013
B) A representative of the firms on Wall Street who lost $24B, calls to tell him they want to beat the Hell out of him.
C) The Koch brothers call to say he's won't get protection from them when he leaves office, and he can go to Hell.
D) Jesus and the three Ghosts of Christmas call on him to tell him he is going to Hell.
Between Obama's wins on Syria, getting Putin to help, the Iranian genie put in its bottle and earning worldwide acclaim as the GOP is defined as The Scum of the Earth, Boehner thinks he's already in Hell.
Obama: Did you get my message?
Boehner: *gulp* I did Sir! Yes, Sir!
Okay, just kidding.
I'm thinking the explanation doesn't require hacking skills. More likely, it went like this:
A) Francis calls John and lets him know he means every word he's been saying, and that he's going to Hell.B) A representative of the firms on Wall Street who lost $24B, calls to tell him they want to beat the Hell out of him.
C) The Koch brothers call to say he's won't get protection from them when he leaves office, and he can go to Hell.
D) Jesus and the three Ghosts of Christmas call on him to tell him he is going to Hell.
Between Obama's wins on Syria, getting Putin to help, the Iranian genie put in its bottle and earning worldwide acclaim as the GOP is defined as The Scum of the Earth, Boehner thinks he's already in Hell.
Obama: Did you get my message?
Boehner: *gulp* I did Sir! Yes, Sir!
Okay, just kidding.
December 13, 2013
Pornography is the sexual equivalent of shopping at Wall-mart.
People are not cognizant of the glory of sex, the being in the moment, in touch with each other and not just flesh. It is as if they could not truly enjoy themselves to begin with, so like a person who puts on a lot of makeup for glamor, they have long since lost the beauty of being alive.
They are, as you say, 'sell out's to something that will never satisfy completely, and does nothing in the real world to give them what they lack. No amount of shiny things, jewels, man-made contrivances and effort replace that which is lost. They feign boredom and need to be stimulated to feel alive again, but it is as if a nerve has been severed and they can no longer go with the flow, the wonder, the unknown, the gift of making love. And that act is not taught by media, it is made during the moment of loving.
The WalMart analogy is apt, and being in love with a highly commercialized product, little different than an electronic device or car. I do not see porn as intimacy, but a sham, a desire for something dead and buried.
If one still has what I'm talking about, they don't need to see it or read it as it resides in their consciousness free of charge and no need to go to media It will do what is needed without any teaching by con men.
All media is a form of learning. We learn how to do something we want to do with a textbook or manual, then we practice, then we do it. I know that you know what I mean, and what this is practicing for. It will not be satisfied, every real thing in the flesh won't be good enough and will be compared.
This is a problem some young men have expressed to me. After seeing so much porn online, knowing their chances of getting a girl to do all they saw were not very good, they are not interested in them, and do not respect them as they can never, no matter what they do for them, equal their fantasy, and said they also do not they respect themselves. Some have rebelled from this so called freedom, and said they are going to find out what life and love and what they want is.
Life is not meant to be just a fantasy we have been taught, or following a program given by media, but living. Those who think it is the ultimate freedom, are denying that they are being disrespected and manipulated for the profit of someone who does not know or care about them. Nothing of value passed between them, just money. Porn is as useless as watching a fish out of water gulping for air unable to get back to the real source of its existence. It is part of the process of dehmanization we are being put through, and not for our own good.
Thanks for your post.
Yours is the only response expressing what is important. When you said:
The sexually repressed haven't had the--call them epiphanies--it takes for true sexual imagination. And so are sell outs to whatever flavor of corporate imagery affects them-- for whatever individual reasons. Unfortunately they tend to think the opposite is true, that they have control of their sexual imagination, that they are not corporate tools.Pornography is the sexual equivalent of shopping at Wall-mart.
People are not cognizant of the glory of sex, the being in the moment, in touch with each other and not just flesh. It is as if they could not truly enjoy themselves to begin with, so like a person who puts on a lot of makeup for glamor, they have long since lost the beauty of being alive.
They are, as you say, 'sell out's to something that will never satisfy completely, and does nothing in the real world to give them what they lack. No amount of shiny things, jewels, man-made contrivances and effort replace that which is lost. They feign boredom and need to be stimulated to feel alive again, but it is as if a nerve has been severed and they can no longer go with the flow, the wonder, the unknown, the gift of making love. And that act is not taught by media, it is made during the moment of loving.
The WalMart analogy is apt, and being in love with a highly commercialized product, little different than an electronic device or car. I do not see porn as intimacy, but a sham, a desire for something dead and buried.
If one still has what I'm talking about, they don't need to see it or read it as it resides in their consciousness free of charge and no need to go to media It will do what is needed without any teaching by con men.
All media is a form of learning. We learn how to do something we want to do with a textbook or manual, then we practice, then we do it. I know that you know what I mean, and what this is practicing for. It will not be satisfied, every real thing in the flesh won't be good enough and will be compared.
This is a problem some young men have expressed to me. After seeing so much porn online, knowing their chances of getting a girl to do all they saw were not very good, they are not interested in them, and do not respect them as they can never, no matter what they do for them, equal their fantasy, and said they also do not they respect themselves. Some have rebelled from this so called freedom, and said they are going to find out what life and love and what they want is.
Life is not meant to be just a fantasy we have been taught, or following a program given by media, but living. Those who think it is the ultimate freedom, are denying that they are being disrespected and manipulated for the profit of someone who does not know or care about them. Nothing of value passed between them, just money. Porn is as useless as watching a fish out of water gulping for air unable to get back to the real source of its existence. It is part of the process of dehmanization we are being put through, and not for our own good.
Thanks for your post.
December 13, 2013
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/09/audio-chris-christie-koch-brothers-seminar
In our exclusive recordings, David Koch introduces the New Jersey governor as "my kind of guy" and "a true political hero."
Click for Part 1 of this two-part series: "Exclusive Audio: Inside The Koch Brothers Secret Seminar
Also read Gavin Aronsen's breakdown of top Koch donors: "Exclusive: The Koch Brothers' Million-Dollar Donor Club"
On the morning of June 26, Chris Christie, New Jersey's flamboyant, tough-talking Republican governor, appeared on NBC's Meet The Press. He then jetted out to Colorado, delivered a keynote speech at Charles and David Koch's ultra-exclusive seminar at the Ritz-Carlton resort near Vail, and returned home the same night, all without breathing a word about his adventure to his constituents.
In Part 1 of this report, we gave you the inside scoop on the Kochs' top-secret strategy meeting, where hundreds of wealthy patrons were urged to open their wallets for what Charles Koch described as "the mother of all wars"—the effort to unseat President Obama. We also told you we'd obtained exclusive audio recordings from the event. And we promised to reveal the identity of the main keynote speaker.
With security extraordinary on the seminar's opening night—audio speakers around the periphery of the outdoor dining pavilion blasted out static to thwart eavesdroppers—David Koch introduced Gov. Christie as "my kind of guy." (The two had previously met in private at Koch's New York City office, he revealed.) Before long, seminar attendees were roaring with laughter as Christie regaled them over dessert, telling them how, in his first weeks in office, he'd exercised extraordinary executive powers to impound billions of dollars in planned spending. ("The good news for all of you and for me," he said, "is that the governorship in New Jersey is the most powerful constitutional governorship in America."
to hue:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251337870
Wow!
more from the article:
In one instance, Christie cut a fellowship program run by a Rutgers University professor who had served as a referee in the state's contentious redistricting fight. He also "mowed down a series of Democratic add-ons, including $45 million in tax credits for the working poor, $9 million in health care for the working poor, $8 million for women's health care, another $8 million in AIDS funding and $9 million in mental-health services," wrote Star-Ledger columnist Tom Moran. "But the governor added $150 million in school aid for the suburbs, including the wealthiest towns in the state. That is enough to restore all the cuts just listed."
In response, Sweeney went nuclear on Christie, claiming he "wanted to punch him in his head" and comparing the governor to "Mr. Potter from 'It's a Wonderful Life,' the mean old bastard who screws everybody," according to the paper. "Don't be vindictive and punish innocent people," he ranted. "These people didn't do anything to him. It's like a bank robber taking hostages. And now he's starting to shoot people." For good measure he called Christie "a cruel man," "mean-spirited," and "a rotten prick."
snip:
During the Q&A, one of the questioners wondered what Christie had learned in New Jersey that might be applied to the nation. His answer was direct: "This is not hard. We spend too much. We borrow too much. We tax too much. It is time to turn those three things around."
"Now, pain will be inflicted when we change that," he went on. "People are going to do with less. People who are used to having entitlement at a certain level will not have them at that level anymore. That's the story." Christie cited Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan's "courageous" and "thoughtful plan" to "fix those systems" by replacing Medicare with a voucher program.
to notadmbld in the same thread. More from that thread by hue:
1 of the Koch bros. (William) is building a "Wild West" town in Colorado.
here's the link:
Besides the WW town they have a huge compound in CO.
http://realestate.aol.com/blog/2012/08/23/billionaire-bill-koch-builds-his-own-wild-west-town-on-his-color/
The Wild West isn't gone -- in fact, it's re-emerging in Colorado.
Billionaire Bill Koch is building an entire Wild West town (pictured above) on his 6,400-acre Bear Ranch in Gunnison County, Colo., the Denver Post reported. It has 50 buildings, which include a saloon, a jail, a church and a train station.
But Old West enthusiasts shouldn't expect to visit Koch's private, unpopulated town: It's for his amusement only and reportedly will not be open to the public.
another link with a map:
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-08-30/welcome-to-kochtown-population-1
From the same thread, a to Beacool:
I can't STAND the SOB!!!!!
Christie went on to explain how he'd convinced the state's Democratic majority leaders, against the wishes of most of their caucus, to help him slash public-sector pensions and benefits. And he drew a bead on his next major target: public-school teachers and their union. "That's where we head next," Christie said. "We need to take on the teachers' union once and for all, and we need to decide who is determining our children's future, who is running this place. Them or us? I say it's us."
He presented his accomplishments in New Jersey as a model for curing the nation's ills: "We know the answers. They're painful answers. We're going to have to reduce Medicare benefits. We're going to have to reduce Medicaid benefits. We're going to have to raise the Social Security age. We're going to have to do these things. We're going to have to cut all types of other government programs that some people in this room might like."
Democrats better watch out if this guy somehow manages to get the nomination. He pretends to be a "moderate", but he's as RW as a Tea Party denizen.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251337870#post25
Actually, I think he's worse...
NJ, please remove this Koch puppet from office ASAP. He is an exceedingly dangerous man:
Audio: Chris Christie Lets Loose at Secret Koch Brothers Confabhttp://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/09/audio-chris-christie-koch-brothers-seminar
In our exclusive recordings, David Koch introduces the New Jersey governor as "my kind of guy" and "a true political hero."
Click for Part 1 of this two-part series: "Exclusive Audio: Inside The Koch Brothers Secret Seminar
Also read Gavin Aronsen's breakdown of top Koch donors: "Exclusive: The Koch Brothers' Million-Dollar Donor Club"
On the morning of June 26, Chris Christie, New Jersey's flamboyant, tough-talking Republican governor, appeared on NBC's Meet The Press. He then jetted out to Colorado, delivered a keynote speech at Charles and David Koch's ultra-exclusive seminar at the Ritz-Carlton resort near Vail, and returned home the same night, all without breathing a word about his adventure to his constituents.
In Part 1 of this report, we gave you the inside scoop on the Kochs' top-secret strategy meeting, where hundreds of wealthy patrons were urged to open their wallets for what Charles Koch described as "the mother of all wars"—the effort to unseat President Obama. We also told you we'd obtained exclusive audio recordings from the event. And we promised to reveal the identity of the main keynote speaker.
With security extraordinary on the seminar's opening night—audio speakers around the periphery of the outdoor dining pavilion blasted out static to thwart eavesdroppers—David Koch introduced Gov. Christie as "my kind of guy." (The two had previously met in private at Koch's New York City office, he revealed.) Before long, seminar attendees were roaring with laughter as Christie regaled them over dessert, telling them how, in his first weeks in office, he'd exercised extraordinary executive powers to impound billions of dollars in planned spending. ("The good news for all of you and for me," he said, "is that the governorship in New Jersey is the most powerful constitutional governorship in America."
to hue:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251337870
Wow!
more from the article:
In one instance, Christie cut a fellowship program run by a Rutgers University professor who had served as a referee in the state's contentious redistricting fight. He also "mowed down a series of Democratic add-ons, including $45 million in tax credits for the working poor, $9 million in health care for the working poor, $8 million for women's health care, another $8 million in AIDS funding and $9 million in mental-health services," wrote Star-Ledger columnist Tom Moran. "But the governor added $150 million in school aid for the suburbs, including the wealthiest towns in the state. That is enough to restore all the cuts just listed."
In response, Sweeney went nuclear on Christie, claiming he "wanted to punch him in his head" and comparing the governor to "Mr. Potter from 'It's a Wonderful Life,' the mean old bastard who screws everybody," according to the paper. "Don't be vindictive and punish innocent people," he ranted. "These people didn't do anything to him. It's like a bank robber taking hostages. And now he's starting to shoot people." For good measure he called Christie "a cruel man," "mean-spirited," and "a rotten prick."
snip:
During the Q&A, one of the questioners wondered what Christie had learned in New Jersey that might be applied to the nation. His answer was direct: "This is not hard. We spend too much. We borrow too much. We tax too much. It is time to turn those three things around."
"Now, pain will be inflicted when we change that," he went on. "People are going to do with less. People who are used to having entitlement at a certain level will not have them at that level anymore. That's the story." Christie cited Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan's "courageous" and "thoughtful plan" to "fix those systems" by replacing Medicare with a voucher program.
to notadmbld in the same thread. More from that thread by hue:
1 of the Koch bros. (William) is building a "Wild West" town in Colorado.
here's the link:
Besides the WW town they have a huge compound in CO.
http://realestate.aol.com/blog/2012/08/23/billionaire-bill-koch-builds-his-own-wild-west-town-on-his-color/
The Wild West isn't gone -- in fact, it's re-emerging in Colorado.
Billionaire Bill Koch is building an entire Wild West town (pictured above) on his 6,400-acre Bear Ranch in Gunnison County, Colo., the Denver Post reported. It has 50 buildings, which include a saloon, a jail, a church and a train station.
But Old West enthusiasts shouldn't expect to visit Koch's private, unpopulated town: It's for his amusement only and reportedly will not be open to the public.
another link with a map:
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-08-30/welcome-to-kochtown-population-1
From the same thread, a
to Beacool:
I can't STAND the SOB!!!!!
Christie went on to explain how he'd convinced the state's Democratic majority leaders, against the wishes of most of their caucus, to help him slash public-sector pensions and benefits. And he drew a bead on his next major target: public-school teachers and their union. "That's where we head next," Christie said. "We need to take on the teachers' union once and for all, and we need to decide who is determining our children's future, who is running this place. Them or us? I say it's us."
He presented his accomplishments in New Jersey as a model for curing the nation's ills: "We know the answers. They're painful answers. We're going to have to reduce Medicare benefits. We're going to have to reduce Medicaid benefits. We're going to have to raise the Social Security age. We're going to have to do these things. We're going to have to cut all types of other government programs that some people in this room might like."
Democrats better watch out if this guy somehow manages to get the nomination. He pretends to be a "moderate", but he's as RW as a Tea Party denizen.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251337870#post25
Actually, I think he's worse...
December 13, 2013
Our leaders see this reality face to face, and work with it. They didn't choose this, the problem extends over generations.
As long as we look at this world and other people as numbers on a business ledger, the name of the agreements don't matter. IMO, the problem is deeper than a treaty.
The WTO set the stage. And with a bit of music, here is the problem laid bare after the 6:40 mark:
Our leaders see this reality face to face, and work with it. They didn't choose this, the problem extends over generations.
As long as we look at this world and other people as numbers on a business ledger, the name of the agreements don't matter. IMO, the problem is deeper than a treaty.
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