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Cats like it too! Just no chocolate for the pups, okay? Supposed to be bad for 'em!

Cheetos hasn't had any for years! Gratuitous Pic:

Been there, done that. No matter how much I scream! Got the giggles? Gratuitous PIC:

100% correct as I lived it in my union:

The decline in union membership is more traceable to unions becoming the monster that they were born to fight AND a generation (or more) of narcissistic workers.

But I'm not going to get closer.

I guess Judith Miller is still on the payroll? LOL. No, but this is serious. It's RF101.

Put out a spurious story, force the Democratic candidate... and it's ALWAYS the Democrat being attacked, to refute but first make sure to leave it in place long enough to imprint that piece of dirt in the public mind.

Because we hold onto dirt faster and harder than anything good. Dirt will imply distrust and danger, so it goes straight to the subconscious. Never to leave once it's there. The brain does not forget anything, but it does prioritize danger for survival. Kept in a constant state of low level fear alters the conscious mind to allow propaganda in.

My thread on this:


I posted this nearly two years ago. And I added this photo later:

One of the things the Clintons have been known for is their 'rapid response' team to these attacks. But the media is so much farther to the right, and the landscape of possible voters is too, that it doesn't take much to convince them.

A generation has grown up hearing Rush all their lives. Many regions of the country have lost all progressive, liberal or even neutral reporting. Journalism has been reduced to propaganda. And it is also in the hands of about half a dozen billionaires.

The airways and television and other venues, entertainment as well as 'news' is now echoing the same talking points until the human mind is overwhelmed. There are forms of what is called 'manufactured consent.' After a while those of an opposing view know better than to say a thing as they hear neighbors and their friends and family repeating it. Since it is everywhere, it's true.

One way is because a media story has been put out, there is an urgency to it. But it's not even current, oftentimes. I've caught 'breaking news' that is actually recycled from years ago. But when a manufacturer of some other vendor wants something to take part of the taxpayer's money or the Commons, a story pops up as if it's a crisis. It's not. At times the situation discussed has been taken care of, sometimes years ago. It may or may not generate public outrage and reaction.

But even everyone ignores it, the 'new crisis' is used as an excuse to pass a piece of legislation that profits someone by stealing the Commons or destroying some institution or agency no one had a problem with. Then it's passed even if the public does rouse itself to fight back.

Because it was 'on the news' so it must be true and important! The cycle repeats. I see all the news and entertainment as no more than selling a product. All kinds of things, from hate to war to gadgets.

'It's new! It's the best! Everyone wants it, everyone is buying it! Hurry! Don't miss out, you will get behind in the pack.'

It's buying to negate anxiety. The NYT is selling a product. Who benefits from it?

The GOP does.

And it's good to see someone point it out! I miss him already!

Savoring every moment. More greatness yet to come. Wonders never cease.

Breaks out in a song:

NO lies from YOU, but...

Operation Chaos 2016 is in full swing. The 2008 version of Operation Chaos, as named by Rush, was used on both of the Democratic frontrunners.

First for Obama with lies when HRC was up in the polls. Then swung to HRC with lies when Obama was up in the polls.

Fortunately, they were unable to stop the moral arc of the universe that is Barack Hussein Obama!

It's a huge concern. AFAIK, the strongest votiung block in the Democratic Party are black females.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

The disrespect shown to AA posters is simply wrong.

This black woman is an activist who is a Democrat and knowledgeable on everything that is going on in her state, obviously.

Why dismiss her?

BTW. Obama's 2012 DNC music by Tom Petty:

Petty said he stopped the GOP from using his songs, but thrilled at seeing Obama walk onstage as his song played.

Sanders is not a purist. He is a follower of 'cuddly capitalism' as described here:

The Nordic model (or Nordic capitalism[1] or Nordic social democracy)[2][3] refers to the economic and social models of the Nordic countries (Denmark, Finland, Norway, Iceland, Greenland, Faroe Islands and Sweden), which involves the combination of a free market economy with a welfare state.[4]

Although there are significant differences among the Nordic countries, they all share some common traits. These include support for a "universalist" welfare state (relative to other developed countries) which is aimed specifically at enhancing individual autonomy, promoting social mobility and ensuring the universal provision of basic human rights, as well as for stabilizing the economy, alongside a commitment to free trade. The Nordic model is distinguished from other types of welfare states by its emphasis on maximizing labor force participation, promoting gender equality, egalitarian and extensive benefit levels, the large magnitude of income redistribution, and liberal use of expansionary fiscal policy.[5]

The Nordic model is described as a system of competitive capitalism combined with a large public sector (roughly 30% of the work force).[6] In 2013, The Economist described its countries as "stout free-traders who resist the temptation to intervene even to protect iconic companies" while also looking for ways to temper capitalism’s harsher effects, and declared that the Nordic countries "are probably the best-governed in the world."[6][7] The Nordic combination of extensive public provision of welfare and a culture of individualism has been described by Lars Trägårdh, of Ersta Sköndal University College, as "statist individualism."[6] Some economists have referred to the Nordic economic model as a form of "cuddly" capitalism, with low levels of inequality, generous welfare states and reduced concentration of top incomes, and contrast it with the more "cut-throat" capitalism of the United States, which has high levels of inequality and a larger concentration of top incomes.[8][9]

The Nordic model, however, is not a single identical set of policies and rules in every country; each of the Nordic countries has its own economic and social models, sometimes with large differences from its neighbors.[10] While Sweden's neoliberal reforms[11][12] have reduced the role of the public sector over the last decades, and saw the fastest growth in inequality of any OECD economy,[13] Sweden's income inequality still remains lower than most other countries'.[14]

"The Nordic Model - Embracing globalization and sharing risks" characterizes the system as follows:[15]

* An elaborate social safety net in addition to public services such as free education and universal healthcare.[15]
* Strong property rights, contract enforcement, and overall ease of doing business.[16]
* Public pension plans.[15]
* Low barriers to free trade.[17] This is combined with collective risk sharing (social programs, labour market institutions) which has provided a form of protection against the risks associated with economic openness.[15]
* Little product market regulation. Nordic countries rank very high in product market freedom according to OECD rankings.[15]
* Low levels of corruption.[15] In Transparency International's 2014 Corruption Perceptions Index all five Nordic countries were ranked among the 12 least corrupt of 176 evaluated countries, and Denmark, Finland, Sweden and Norway all ranked within top 5.[18]
* High percentage of workers belonging to a labour union. In 2010, labour union density was 69.9% in Finland, 68.3% in Sweden, and 54.8% in Norway. In comparison, labour union density was 12.9% in Mexico and 11.3% in the United States.[19] The lower union density in Norway is mainly explained by the absence of a Ghent system since 1938. In contrast, Denmark, Finland and Sweden all have union-run unemployment funds.[20]
* A partnership between employers, trade unions and the government, whereby these social partners negotiate the terms to regulating the workplace among themselves, rather than the terms being imposed by law.[21] Sweden has decentralised wage co-ordination, while Finland is ranked the least flexible.[15] The changing economic conditions have given rise to fear among workers as well as resistance by trade unions in regards to reforms.[15] At the same time, reforms and favourable economic development seem to have reduced unemployment, which has traditionally been higher. Denmark's Social Democrats managed to push through reforms in 1994 and 1996 (see flexicurity).
* Sweden at 56.6% of GDP, Denmark at 51.7%, and Finland at 48.6% reflects very high public spending.[17] One key reason for public spending is the large number of public employees. These employees work in various fields including education, healthcare, and for the government itself. They often have lifelong job security and make up around a third of the workforce (more than 38% in Denmark). Public spending in social transfers such as unemployment benefits and early-retirement programmes is high. In 2001, the wage-based unemployment benefits were around 90% of wage in Denmark and 80% in Sweden, compared to 75% in the Netherlands and 60% in Germany. The unemployed were also able to receive benefits several years before reductions, compared to quick benefit reduction in other countries.
* Public expenditure for health and education is significantly higher in Denmark, Sweden, and Norway in comparison to the OECD average.[22]
* Overall tax burdens (as a percentage of GDP) are among the world's highest; Sweden (51.1%), Denmark (46% in 2011),[23] and Finland (43.3%), compared to non-Nordic countries like Germany (34.7%), Canada (33.5%), and Ireland (30.5%).
* The United Nations World Happiness Report 2013 shows that the happiest nations are concentrated in Northern Europe. The Nordics ranked highest on the metrics of real GDP per capita, healthy life expectancy, having someone to count on, perceived freedom to make life choices, generosity and freedom from corruption.[24]
* The Nordic countries received the highest ranking for protecting workers rights on the International Trade Union Confederation's 2014 Global Rights Index, with Denmark being the only nation to receive a perfect score.[25]

The Nordic welfare model refers to the welfare policies of the Nordic countries, which also tie into their labor market policies.

While there are differences among different Nordic countries, they all share a broad commitment to social cohesion, a universal nature of welfare provision in order to safeguard individualism by providing protection for vulnerable individuals and groups in society, and maximizing public participation in social decision-making. It is characterized by flexibility and openness to innovation in the provision of welfare. The Nordic welfare systems are mainly funded through taxation.[26]

Despite the common values, the Nordic countries take different approaches to the practical administration of the welfare state. Denmark features a high degree of private sector provision of public services and welfare, alongside an assimilation immigration policy. Iceland's welfare model is based on a "welfare-to-work" (see: workfare) model, while part of Finland's welfare state includes the voluntary sector playing a significant role in providing care for the elderly. Norway relies most extensively on public provision of welfare...[26]

Jerry Mander has likened the Nordic model to a kind of "hybrid" economics which features a blend of capitalist and socialist visions.[31] According to sociologist Lane Kenworthy, in the context of the Nordic model, "social democracy" refers to a set of policies intended to improve capitalism as opposed to a system to replace capitalism.[32] Kenworthy advocates for the U.S. to make a gradual transition to an economic system similar to those of the Nordic countries.[33] United States Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT), a self-described democratic socialist, has been a strong proponent of the Nordic system.[34][35][36] Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz has noted that there is higher social mobility in the Scandinavian countries than in the United States, and argues that Scandinavia is now the land of opportunity that the United States once was.[37]

According to Naomi Klein, former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev sought to move the USSR in a similar direction to the Nordic system, combining free markets with a social safety net — but still retaining public ownership of key sectors — ingredients that he believed would transform the USSR into "a socialist beacon for all mankind."[38][39]


Gorbachev's plan apparently did not get a chance as It appears Russia is in the hands of an oligarchy. That is the default whenever governments collapse, sadly. His plan sounded like a good transition model.

Of the five Nordic countries, Norway, Denmark and Iceland are NATO members. Sweden and Finland are not. Bernie mentioned NATO in his support for F-35 and drone production in Vermont which he says are important for fighting ISIS. These are good paying MIC jobs and a source of prosperity for those who get those jobs. Typical state politics used by both parties.

The moral question remains to be answered. We don't seem to be able to have a hard nosed discussion of such at DU without devolving into namecalling, but I think we need to seek more honesty on this subject.

He's a conventional politican, and it's apparent the socialists do have a bone to pick with him. But they have little success in the USA in getting what they want.

The World Socialist Web Site hates Bernie, with several articles calling him anti-union/ worker, anti-immigrant, deceptive and imperialist. They also don't like his strong support for military aid to Israel in light of the plight of Gazans which they have termed racist.

I don't agree with what they say, but then I'm a Democrat and they'd say the same about us.

You can't please everybody!

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