socialindependocrat
socialindependocrat's JournalAgree! - Pro-choice is allowing personal choice for each person
Pro-choice is already 50%/50%
Why do these people feel that they should be able to dictate how
the other half lives when it is based on a religious belief.
Congress needs to make a law that allows people to make their own choice
as to how they want to live and not allow anyone to dictate how they want others to live.
This crap needs to stop.
I'm also, tired of religious zealots thinking that they can preach to a society
which is based on the freedom of the individual to pursue their own chosen destiny.
Live and let live...
Employee benefits are now going backward
Re: Your question on tech and work less.
I was in a group trying to identify what the future workplace would look like. I thought that the natural progression would be toward a 4 day work week - Someone said, 4 - 10hr days, no problem. I said, No, 4 - 8hr days. People went nuts. They wouldn't even entertain a discussion of the idea.
Corporate leaders have determined that the "workers" are not in a bargaining position. "You are lucky you have a job" is pounded into people's heads over and over. They have held our salaries down for the past 30 years and instead of reinvesting back inti the business they increase their own salaries and bonuses.
Now , people have come to the frightening conclusion that they need to save at a faster pace or they will never be able to retire - They will just die at their desk one day. So people take what discretionary income they have available and put it towards retirement instead of spending it - Thus the slow economic recovery.
The middle class used to spend every dime they had and then spend more on credit. Now, they don't to save for retirement - With what little they have left after all the day-to-dat expenses have increased by 25-60%. We're talking about food 30%, gas 110%, heating oil 300% (even heating oil is more expensive than gasoline and it's requires less energy to manufacture), my electric got deregulated and it jumped 65% the next year. So, people who used to have $500 discretionary income now have $100 or less.
Warren Buffet is one of the few who realizes that unless we get the middle class employed and back in the spending mood that this country will be in the crapper for a very long time.
Look at the recovery of the stock market and who did the money go to? It went to the people who already have all the money.
And all these states enacting right-to-work laws are not helping the situation. The American people are being whipped into submission to the detriment of the country.
Laughter - Best Medicine!
It's a shame when you think that there are people who are so afraid of something that makes you laugh.
They must be missing a chromosome...
It angers me when lessens learned are allowed to fall by the wayside...
Also grew up in the 50s:
My mother would mention the depression every now and then
I would ask if it could happen again and she said, no, the government made laws that will stop that from ever haoppening again.
Look at us today!
the government made laws that stopped monopolies.
Over the past 35 years I worked for a large corporation.
In the 80s they said that the larger corps. would buy out the smaller ones and we would end up with 3-4 major companies in our area
I wondered what happened to the anti-trust act?
Now look at us.
We have been sold out by our elected leaders and now it is going to take the next ten years to get things back on track again.
We are working now to stop the wealthy from gaining enough control to tip the country past the point of no return.
We have allowed the wealthy to take more than their share over the past 35 years.
It is not asking too much for them to get the economy back on track.
We need to acknowledge that the Republicants are still feeding money to the wealthy every chance they get.
and, they are stopping the banks from being devided and/or prosecuted.
We need to stop the lobbyists and the flow of pay-offs back to the members of congress who are playing the game.
special interest groups are not the American people.
WE ARE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
The economy will grow because of the middle class!
Remember that for the past 30 years wealth has been redistributed upwards.
The wealthy business owners and CEOs used to pay their workers to keep up with inflatiuon
Then they decided that they just needed to pay the stockholders dividends
so they would keep investing.
and they could keep more of the money from their businesses
(because they have the power and control) so there was very little trickle left.
Yearly bonuses and increases for the middle class did not keep up with inflation so
we worked year after year for less and less money
Until we got to the point where we figured we may no be able to retire and we would
eventually, die at our desks and never retire -SO, we started to save more money
so we could retire and we didn't buy goods to support the businesses of the wealthy.
Here is the key:
Now, the wealthy have accumulated money over the past 30 years that they have invested
and from which, they collect income and will continue to do so.
What we are asking is that the wealthy business owners and CEOs start increasing wages
so that the middle class will be able to buy goods and support the businesses of the wealthy.
Some of the wealthy see the wisdom to this and say - Hey, we've had it good for quite a while.
Now we should start paying a little bit more (Right Mr. Buffet?) so our businesses don't fail and
we keep being RICH!
But, it seems that the nevou riche want more, more, more and the Repukes, who are paid/bought
by the rich and wealthy and who have signed a "pledge" with Grover won't dare to besmearch
their reputations by breaking their "pledge" even though they can lie thru their teeth during
elections and suggesting that the Dems are stealing from them when the Repukes and Lyin' Ryan
say straight out that they will take $713M out of Medicare so they can give it to the wealthy.
Duh! O.K. boss. Whatever you say.
It's one thing to shame people into feeling guilty for sinning because
They may feel guilty but they still have the choice to sin and ask for redemption later.
BUT
To set up laws that take away the people's tight to choose is going too far.
Like my parents said, "We can only teach you to be a good person.
What you do with the rest of your life is up to you."
There is a control issue here.
These people want control over the lives of others.
which takes control away from the individual.
This is why people try to stay out of prisons - they want to maintain control of themselves.
Once you take a person's rights away, what's the sense?
That's why the U.S. is different from China and Russia
That's why we're Americans - so we have freedom of choice
Freedom of choice should be the norm
"they’re reacting on an emotional level to their deep-seated anger about other people’s sex lives"
This is the crux of the problem. When you look at the right trying to stop others from having freedom of choice. The conservatives are not happy living their own lives the way they see fit. They need to try to interfere with the lives of others.
Saying that the church has to go against it's principles by providing insurance that includes birth control and women's reproductive health care - Standard insurance needs to be provided by all employers to allow the people to choose how they use their policies. If each employer got to taylor their insurance provisions we would have a confusing mish-mosh of policies. Insurance should provide for a standard variety of health care benefits. If the Catholic church has taught it's parishioners well, they will CHOOSE not to use the birth control provisions. If the people CHOOSE to utilize the birth control provisions then it should be a sign to the church that they are either not getting their point across or that they don't understand their congregation. Control of thought and/or action is only necessary for people and institutions that need to control.
For conservatives to CHOOSE to live a life based upon their beliefs is fine but when a group tries to impose their beliefs on others - this is not democratic, this is not live and let live - this is more indicative of a communist dictatorship - This is not America.
We need to figure a way to get the Teabaggers to understand that they have no control over the lives of others. They need to be happy that they have the freedom to CHOOSE how they live their own lives and see that Christians allow others to live as they see fit in spite of our own personal beliefs.
Interesting that there was a problem with the initial ballots
They need to make sure all this stuff is corrected before the next elections.
When you look at the situation we're in because Bush stole the vote and
you can project what things would be like if Romney had won. You can
see that these elections mean a life of freedom vs a life of slave labor and
religious control to the American people.
We aren't a group of immigrants who's lives improve every year on the way to the
realization of the American Dream; we have had our upward mobility stagnated
and half the country is voting to give more money to the wealthy who have been
reaping more than their fair share for the past 30 years! They are far ahead of
where they would have been if we all shared in the growth and prosperity of the
businesses for whom we worked. We're not asking them to give back, we're asking
them to give their fare share from this point on.
People are taught to be offended
When we're little kids we go along thru life and some kid comes up and says - You're parents are poor.
You shrug your shoulders and your friend says - I wouldn't let him say that about my family.
And so begins the belief that you should defend your family, girlfriend, etc. - you get offended
A lot of Americans have pointed out that they could care less if someone says something against their religion. I'm not embarrassed because it's my word against yours and my opinion against yours and we accept that people will disagree - especially about religion. We even say - don't talk about religion or politics if you don't want an argument.
I submit that the Muslim people have been taught and given permission that they can become outraged if someone says something against their religion and even if they create an image of their prophet. We say - so what. They say - I'll give $100,000 to anyone who does the right thing and kills this guy.
Look at all the killing that went on in the dark ages when the religious leaders could have a person drawn and quartered because they didn't agree with the "church" - meaning they disagreed with a person who had the power of life and death. Then we move to the Salem witch trials and people (mostly women) put to death because others were afraid of the boogie man.
IMHO I would say that the more a group sets up these unforgiving penalties for questioning a religion or a government the more they are trying to protect their view and not have to defend it in any way. If you're right you should be able to defend your position. We've seen throughout history that the people who demand a blind following are dictatorial and controlling and just don't want to be bothered with arguing their point or being confronted.
If all of our religions condoned killing non-believers we'd have global chaos.
If we didn't disagree with religious beliefs that were accepted at any point in history all of the "Christian" countries would all still be Jews - but someone started Catholicism and then Martin Luther started the Protestant religion. Major Note: I took a religion class and realized for the first time (at 53 years of age) that Protestant means the people who protested,
So, evolving beliefs allow new religions to evolve. Islam began because someone heard Mohammad speak and thought he had a point. Good for them. But killing all the people who disagree just stops the religion from evolving. Secondly - to condone killing has been illegal in the modern world for a log time - of course unless the government decides it's o.k.
OF, BY and FOR the people
Government FOR the people -
The government will govern in a way that is beneficial to all the people of America.
Elected officials will not be swayed to benefit special interest groups
Elected officials will govern in a way that is balanced and takes into consideration the wishes of all the people.
If 50% want to be progressive and 50% want to be conservative we should have rules and laws that consider both halves of the country
Gee, with health care we seem t be able to do just that! We provide heath care that allows the concerns of all people to be considered. If you want to partake in certain offerings of your health care package - you certainly can. The problem comes when one group trys to say that "I don't want to use all the offerings and I don't think anyone else should either." Sorry folks - you get to choose how to live your own lives but you don't get to choose how I run mine.
I pick my church
I pick my house
I pick my car
I pick my food and meals
I pick my own cloths
If you don't get to make your own choices and someone else makes them for you then we just have communism. That's not what wer're about as a country.
I will support your ability to choose your lifestyle
But I will fuck you up if you try to choose mine, too!
This year the teabaggers get voted into obscurity.
Let's be reasonable: I 'll leave you alone and you leave me alone!
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