Source for everything in this post. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/30/bernie-s/bernie-sanders-only-presidential-candidates-withou/

A couple of PACs, not affiliated with Bernie or his campaign in any way, have formed, supposedly with the desire to help Bernie. Bernie has rejected their "help" and even had his lawyers contact them to tell them to cut it out.

BTW, please notice what this politifact article does in order to rate "mostly true" instead of simply "true."

politifact begins its "analysis" with a statement Bernie NEVER made and rates it "mostly true," while admitting near the end of the article that Bernie's actually statement was different from the one used in the title of the article and throughout.

Statement rated "mostly" true: I am the only Presidential candidate without a PAC--which Bernie never said.

What Bernie said; I am virtually the only Presidential candidate without a PAC.

Multi-billionaire Donald Trump is the only other Presidential candidate who does not have an affiliated PAC and I am not sure what his relationships with his unaffiliated PACs are. (One of his supposedly unaffiliated PACs is called "Make America Great Again." Inasmuch as that is also the motto of his campaign, I am not quite sure just how "unaffiliated" that PAC actually is. However, let's take it at face value: a single exception--and the guy who is the multi-billionaire, to boot! So "virtually the only Presidential candidate without a PAC" seems very true to me, not mostly true. Politifact seems to have twisted itself into a pretzel in order to get that "mostly" in there.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/15/AR2009011504114.html

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/04/12/obamas-cat-food-social-security-reform/

http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/11/news/economy/obama_heating_cuts/

http://www.crewof42.com/news/conyers-on-jobs-weve-had-it-lays-out-obama-calls-for-protest-at-white-house/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/obama-grand-bargain/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bob-woodward-obamas-sequester-deal-changer/2013/02/22/c0b65b5e-7ce1-11e2-9a75-dab0201670da_story.html

ETA: multiple cuts to SNAP as well.

I don't want to debate who won the debate. I just copied the actual headline.

CNN/ORC poll: Hillary Clinton wins debate, but Bernie Sanders rises

By Jennifer Agiesta, CNN Polling Director

Updated 6:19 AM ET, Mon October 19, 2015 | Video Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)With the first Democratic debate in the books, a new CNN/ORC poll finds most who watched think Hillary Clinton had the best performance of the night, but her strong showing hasn't boosted her standing in the race for the party's nomination.

Clinton stands at 45% in the race for the Democratic nomination, with Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders behind her at 29%. Vice President Joe Biden, who is considering a run for presidency and did not participate in last week's debate, follows at 18%.

Behind the top three, former Virginia Sen. Jim Webb had 1% support, while former Rhode Island Gov. Lincoln Chafee, Harvard professor Larry Lessig and former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley all held less than 1% support.

Compared with pre-debate polling, Sanders' support is up five points since mid-September, but no other candidate showed significant change.

much more at http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/19/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-poll/

ETA: The poll itself: http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/19/politics/cnn-orc-poll-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-democratic-debate/index.html

Among those who had actually watched the debate, Sanders' favorability increased from 62% to 84%!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/18/1434602/-Elizabeth-Warren-Hillary-Clinton-represents-Wall-St-interests-over-helping-women-children

Mark Halperin said, if Bernie is the nominee, if people turn out to vote for him in the general, there will be a revolution. He will have coattails

(not exact words, but close enough.)

Inasmuch as this is similar to what I have been posting, I admire Mark Halperin's perception on this point.

What Halperin did not say, but what I think is implied by his response--and certainly what I believe: If Hillary is the nominee, no coattails. Just not enough enthusiasm.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6211673

I think admission may have been $25. Either that or there was a fundraiser before a rally. Sorry, I am not clear on this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=176002 (KOS story about a fundraiser).

My politics buddy went to a party afterward at a private home in Beverly Hills, where the suggested donation was $250 per person. I don't know if more than one "after party" was held. He has not filled me in yet.


Intro of Sanders by Seth McFarlane:



I am not sure where this video picks up. I'm looking for a better one.

Unimpeachable integrity? As much as any other weathervane that keeps evolving. See also: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12777603

Spent time in the Senate (and/or House) "passing significant legislation" Um.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251694015 including http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=694066

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=63762

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=694049

Yeah, I guess I have to settle for Sanders, too, no matter how hard the plutocrats/msm/DNC are pushing for Hillary. I can't. No, I can't.

IMO, Senator Sanders and his supporters have always had their work cut out for them and they still do. The first task is to get the name and positions of Senator Sanders before as many people as possible. The next is to make sure they are registered to vote in the Democratic primary. The third is persuade them to vote for Senator Sanders in the primary.

The task is harder than ever before. Arrayed against him/us are the plutocrats, the DNC, the media, etc. Comparisons to Obama are invalid because Obama had behind him people like Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy, Daschle, Kerry, et al and therefore the media (at least as far as the Democratic primary).

While I wish that posting on message board could do the job, it won't. It's a hobby and/or an addiction, not activism. Even attending debate parties with other Sanders Supporters isn't going to get the job done.

We have to call and email everyone we know and invite them to ask us questions. We have to get out in the real world and pass out leaflets, campaign buttons, voter registration forms, etc. Some sources for leaflets are in replies on this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=63830

Marym625's Bernie Group wrote this one themselves and another DUer did the Spanish translation: http://www.democraticunderground.com/

We have to donate and encourage others to donate. Omaha Steve's ActBlue link: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/duforbernie

Back to the polls and pundits. There is no poll, no pundit, nothing that is going to change my support for Senator Sanders or change the reality of anything in this post. We may enjoy discussing those things on DU, but that's about it. IMO, further discussion is highly unlikely to change a single vote on DU. If it's fun for you, great for you. I am not trying to make anyone's life joyless. But, again, our work is cut for us. Some of it can be done on reddit, facebook and twitter. Most of it has to be done away from a keyboard.

It's Sanders Saturday at least one day in every week. Go for it!

During last night's debate, Hillary said she is a moderate and she also said she is a progressive. So, there goes the meaning of "progressive." Later, Chafee said there was no longer room in the Republican Party "for a liberal moderate Republican," so there goes the meaning of "liberal."

See also http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2739138 (DLC now calling itself moderate, not centrist: post of madfloridian on DU2)

and, from Al From's book, The New Democrats and the Return to Power via a recent post of madfloridian http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027191121:

Coming from the center-left of the party, I was tired of having the DLC labeled as conservative. I decided to call our think tank the Progressive Policy Institute because I thought it would be harder for reporters to label it as the “conservative Progressive Policy Institute."

argle bargle

P.S. Leftist, not "lefty," which is a nickname for people who are left-handed. At least let me have that.