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November 20, 2019
Glenn Kirschner...Rudy better flip or
https://twitter.com/glennkirschner2/status/1197212621415624704
November 20, 2019
Glenn Kirschner...'Do your job'
https://twitter.com/glennkirschner2/status/1197185791044272130
November 20, 2019
Pompous Pompeo has a reputation...?
https://twitter.com/truefactsstated/status/1197221557401198592
November 20, 2019
'Picking up my personal belongings'....Sondland
https://twitter.com/truefactsstated/status/1197270617587892229
November 20, 2019
'Where is Ukraine?"...Pence
https://twitter.com/reuterspolitics/status/1197268621409603584
November 20, 2019
The Con....'it's all over'
https://twitter.com/rawstory/status/1197202690339692550
November 20, 2019
THREAD. I’ve read the Sondland Testimony, and boy is it devastating to Trump. Remember, this is the one guy Trump pointed to to exonerate him. Excerpts and quick analysis below.
1.Sondland begins by expressly saying he worked with Giuliani at Trump’s express request, and that he didn’t want to work with Giuliani but felt he had to given Trump’s order.
2.Sondland then explicitly confirms the quid pro quo – and SAYS THIS WAS DONE BECAUSE OF THE PRESIDENT’S DESIRES
3. Sondland then says cutting off of military aid was wrong, + that Ukraine needed those funds to fight off Russian aggression. But he says the quid pro quo to look into Burisma superceded policy goals. Sondland says he brought quid pro quo concerns to Congress, to Sen Johnson
4.Sondland describes a totally irregular foreign policy led by private lawyer Rudy Giuliani, and suggests that Sec. Pompeo knew about it but didn’t stop it.
5.Sondland now magically remembers the phone call with Trump he failed to mention in his previous testimony (perhaps because other witnesses have reported it to Congress in the interim, and say they overheard it because it took place in a restaurant).
6.Just to make absolutely sure, Sondland then details once again there was a quid pro quo, in a separate section of his testimony devoted entirely to it.
7.Sondland says he told Vice President Pence about the quid pro quo around Sept 1.
8. Sondland repeatedly implies that Pompeo knew the scheme, and that he and NSC were in the loop.
9.BOTTOM LINE 1: Sondland gets closer to telling the truth today, largely because he was caught lying to the committee. Whether this is enough to save him from liability is doubtful. He's already “supplemented” his testimony once to magically remember stuff he forgot to disclose
10.BOTTOM LINE 2 But it is the nail in the coffin on Trump’s claims that his phone call with Ukraine was perfect and that there was no quid pro quo.
11.LOOK FOR IN THE QUESTIONING 1: Sondland omits everything about that highly scripted September 19 set of text messages with Ambassador Taylor saying there was no quid pro quo. That was the exchange Trump pointed to earlier to try to exonerate him, but …
12. media later reported Sondland & Taylor were texting every few minutes, then all of sudden Sondland stopped, spoke w/ Trump spoke on the phone, and then hours later sent a “no quid pro quo message.” Expect Schiff to drill down hard here. What will Sondland say about that?
13.LOOK FOR IN THE QUESTIONING 2: Sondland testified in October (below) he was not aware of preconditions on Ukraine aid. His testimony today completely changes his story and says he was aware of Burisma as a precondition. How does he explain that? Was pressure placed on him?
14.LOOK FOR IN THE QUESTIONING 3: Sondland in October testified he wasn’t aware of Trump’s demands about Biden. But Holmes testified directly to the contrary. Compare these 2 snippets—one from Sondland in Oct and one from Holmes.
15. House now has to subpoena their former colleague Pompeo, I suspect.
16.This is just a 1st pass. But my sense is that Sondland did not come close to helping himself enough given his earlier testimony. Questioning will be withering. Sondland is not going for a pardon at this point, so his best bet is to tell the truth in response.
17.Either way, Trump defense has entirely collapsed. It’s clear he committed a grave impeachable offense, even according to his own witnesses. As my book (released next week!) argues, there is no choice but to impeach and remove him. amazon.com/gp/product/035…
Neal Katyal...Thread
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1197152561507241984.htmlTHREAD. I’ve read the Sondland Testimony, and boy is it devastating to Trump. Remember, this is the one guy Trump pointed to to exonerate him. Excerpts and quick analysis below.
1.Sondland begins by expressly saying he worked with Giuliani at Trump’s express request, and that he didn’t want to work with Giuliani but felt he had to given Trump’s order.
2.Sondland then explicitly confirms the quid pro quo – and SAYS THIS WAS DONE BECAUSE OF THE PRESIDENT’S DESIRES
3. Sondland then says cutting off of military aid was wrong, + that Ukraine needed those funds to fight off Russian aggression. But he says the quid pro quo to look into Burisma superceded policy goals. Sondland says he brought quid pro quo concerns to Congress, to Sen Johnson
4.Sondland describes a totally irregular foreign policy led by private lawyer Rudy Giuliani, and suggests that Sec. Pompeo knew about it but didn’t stop it.
5.Sondland now magically remembers the phone call with Trump he failed to mention in his previous testimony (perhaps because other witnesses have reported it to Congress in the interim, and say they overheard it because it took place in a restaurant).
6.Just to make absolutely sure, Sondland then details once again there was a quid pro quo, in a separate section of his testimony devoted entirely to it.
7.Sondland says he told Vice President Pence about the quid pro quo around Sept 1.
8. Sondland repeatedly implies that Pompeo knew the scheme, and that he and NSC were in the loop.
9.BOTTOM LINE 1: Sondland gets closer to telling the truth today, largely because he was caught lying to the committee. Whether this is enough to save him from liability is doubtful. He's already “supplemented” his testimony once to magically remember stuff he forgot to disclose
10.BOTTOM LINE 2 But it is the nail in the coffin on Trump’s claims that his phone call with Ukraine was perfect and that there was no quid pro quo.
11.LOOK FOR IN THE QUESTIONING 1: Sondland omits everything about that highly scripted September 19 set of text messages with Ambassador Taylor saying there was no quid pro quo. That was the exchange Trump pointed to earlier to try to exonerate him, but …
12. media later reported Sondland & Taylor were texting every few minutes, then all of sudden Sondland stopped, spoke w/ Trump spoke on the phone, and then hours later sent a “no quid pro quo message.” Expect Schiff to drill down hard here. What will Sondland say about that?
13.LOOK FOR IN THE QUESTIONING 2: Sondland testified in October (below) he was not aware of preconditions on Ukraine aid. His testimony today completely changes his story and says he was aware of Burisma as a precondition. How does he explain that? Was pressure placed on him?
14.LOOK FOR IN THE QUESTIONING 3: Sondland in October testified he wasn’t aware of Trump’s demands about Biden. But Holmes testified directly to the contrary. Compare these 2 snippets—one from Sondland in Oct and one from Holmes.
15. House now has to subpoena their former colleague Pompeo, I suspect.
16.This is just a 1st pass. But my sense is that Sondland did not come close to helping himself enough given his earlier testimony. Questioning will be withering. Sondland is not going for a pardon at this point, so his best bet is to tell the truth in response.
17.Either way, Trump defense has entirely collapsed. It’s clear he committed a grave impeachable offense, even according to his own witnesses. As my book (released next week!) argues, there is no choice but to impeach and remove him. amazon.com/gp/product/035…
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