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LostOne4Ever
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June 15, 2023
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Anyway, I would imagine for someone just starting to transition they would need the strictest handicaps. Clothes to slow and weight them down for fairness.
As it is currently I believe the policy for newly transitioning students is that they can join the team but aren't allowed to compete till they get their T levels down. I believe this usually takes around a year for trans women.
https://www.runnersworld.com/news/a35852603/transgender-women-in-sports/
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Now you said you don't know the science of HRT. Let us discuss it real quick. HRT has been tested many many times and it is found to be very effective and greatly improves medical outcomes for trans people:
https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases-from-aap-conferences/research-finds-significant-reduction-in-depression-suicidality-in-youth-receiving-gender-affirming-care-or-puberty-blockers/
It also has one of the lowest regret rates of ANY medical surgery/procedure. Average surgery regret is around 14.28%:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28243695/
While Gender Affirming Care/ Transitioning has a regret rate of under 2%
https://apnews.com/article/transgender-treatment-regret-detransition-371e927ec6e7a24cd9c77b5371c6ba2b
The fact that HRT is proven beneficial AND has one of the lowest regret rates of any medical procedure means it is good and effective medicine.
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You also said you have reservations about puberty blockers. You don't need to. Puberty blockers are SAFE and HIGHLY effective.
Keep in mind that the purpose of a puberty blocker isn't to treat gender dysphoria but to keep it from getting worse and to give both trans and cis kids time to think over HRT until they are old enough.
That said puberty blockers have almost universally been shown to result in positive outcomes and to be safe.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33320999/
https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases-from-aap-conferences/research-finds-significant-reduction-in-depression-suicidality-in-youth-receiving-gender-affirming-care-or-puberty-blockers/
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/145/2/e20191725/68259/Pubertal-Suppression-for-Transgender-Youth-and?autologincheck=redirected
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(17)30099-2/fulltext#seccestitle70
All of this should also show that puberty blockers are not experimental and are life saving:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7430465/
Some people think that puberty blockers might cause kids to think they are transgender and convince them to wrongfully go on to take HRT. The research shows this not to be true:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36318207/
Puberty blockers are in fact a wonder drug. Extremely safe and they can prevent trans kids from experiencing irreversible changes to their body due to the wrong puberty while they reach an age where they are old enough to consent. Similarly, they prevent confused Cis Children (who make up only about 2% of all the kids pursuing puberty blockers) from making a mistake that would create irreversible changes to their body as well. Meaning that this drug helps both trans and cis kids!
They save lives, they are safe, and they help everyone cis and trans!
I just finished up the semester as an 8th grade science teacher and I was a substitute before that.
My experiences are very very different.
I have had kids come up to me to let me know that they don't support LGBT+ people in anyway. Students who have commented to me that they think there is only 2 genders. I had to go to a welcome new teachers ceremony where they had a preacher (who just so happened to be my pre-algebra teacher when I MYSELF was a student at the very school that I would be teaching at) get up in front of everyone to lead them in a prayer where he asked god to protect us from people who are confused about if they are boys or girls and their "agenda."
When I was substituting a few years ago I heard a student laughingly tell ask another student "whose the [homophobic slur] We need to jump him," upon hearing that a male student was using fingernail polish.
I have seen NOT one person come out as trans at the schools I teach in west Texas.
The best I have seen was one girl who had a progress flag pin hidden on her backpack. I also had another girl who I seriously thought might be transmasculine but since she never came out to me so I can't be sure.
You might have several kids come out as trans, and your daughter might have trans friends who she thinks are just being ansty and pushing back against authoritity but the fact of the matter is that around 98% of kids who go onto HRT continue taking it because they ACTUALLY are transgender.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35452119/
720 people were included, of whom 220 (31%) were assigned male at birth and 500 (69%) were assigned female at birth. At the start of GnRHa treatment, the median age was 14·1 (IQR 13·0–16·3) years for people assigned male at birth and 16·0 (14·1–16·9) years for people assigned female at birth. Median age at end of data collection was 20·2 (17·9–24·8) years for people assigned male at birth and 19·2 (17·8–22·0) years for those assigned female at birth. 704 (98%) people who had started gender-affirming medical treatment in adolescence continued to use gender-affirming hormones at follow-up. Age at first visit, year of first visit, age and puberty stage at start of GnRHa treatment, age at start of gender-affirming hormone treatment, year of start of gender-affirming hormone treatment, and gonadectomy were not associated with discontinuing gender-affirming hormones.
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Anyway, I would imagine for someone just starting to transition they would need the strictest handicaps. Clothes to slow and weight them down for fairness.
As it is currently I believe the policy for newly transitioning students is that they can join the team but aren't allowed to compete till they get their T levels down. I believe this usually takes around a year for trans women.
https://www.runnersworld.com/news/a35852603/transgender-women-in-sports/
The current NCAA policy on allowing transgender athletes to compete does not require gender confirming surgery or legal recognition of a player's transitioned sex in order for transgender players to participate on a team that matches their identity. However, it does require one year of hormone treatment testosterone suppression before as a condition prior to competing on a female team, though there is no such requirement for male transgender athletes to participate on a men’s team. Athletes assigned female at birth are also still eligible to compete in women’s sports unless or until that athlete begins a physical transition using testosterone.
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Now you said you don't know the science of HRT. Let us discuss it real quick. HRT has been tested many many times and it is found to be very effective and greatly improves medical outcomes for trans people:
https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases-from-aap-conferences/research-finds-significant-reduction-in-depression-suicidality-in-youth-receiving-gender-affirming-care-or-puberty-blockers/
The year-long review screened more than 4,000 studies and identified 56 that assessed whether gender transition improves the mental well-being of transgender individuals. The analysis concluded that 93 percent of the studies found positive effects from gender transition, indicating “a robust international consensus in the peer-reviewed literature that gender transition, including medical treatments such as hormone therapy and surgeries, improves the overall well-being of transgender individuals.”
It also has one of the lowest regret rates of ANY medical surgery/procedure. Average surgery regret is around 14.28%:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28243695/
elf-reported decisional regret was present in about 1 in 7 surgical patients. Factors associated with regret were both patient- and procedure related. While most studies focused on patient regret, little data exist on how physician regret affects shared decision making.
While Gender Affirming Care/ Transitioning has a regret rate of under 2%
https://apnews.com/article/transgender-treatment-regret-detransition-371e927ec6e7a24cd9c77b5371c6ba2b
Some studies suggest that rates of regret have declined over the years as patient selection and treatment methods have improved. In a review of 27 studies involving almost 8,000 teens and adults who had transgender surgeries, mostly in Europe, the U.S and Canada, 1% on average expressed regret. For some, regret was temporary, but a small number went on to have detransitioning or reversal surgeries, the 2021 review said.
The fact that HRT is proven beneficial AND has one of the lowest regret rates of any medical procedure means it is good and effective medicine.
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You also said you have reservations about puberty blockers. You don't need to. Puberty blockers are SAFE and HIGHLY effective.
Keep in mind that the purpose of a puberty blocker isn't to treat gender dysphoria but to keep it from getting worse and to give both trans and cis kids time to think over HRT until they are old enough.
That said puberty blockers have almost universally been shown to result in positive outcomes and to be safe.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33320999/
Studies reviewed had samples ranging from 1 to 192 (N = 543). The majority (71%) of participants in these studies required a diagnosis of gender dysphoria to qualify for puberty suppression and were administered medication during Tanner stages 2 through 4. Positive outcomes were decreased suicidality in adulthood, improved affect and psychological functioning, and improved social life. Adverse factors associated with use were changes in body composition, slow growth, decreased height velocity, decreased bone turnover, cost of drugs, and lack of insurance coverage. One study met all quality criteria and was judged 'excellent', five studies met the majority of quality criteria resulting in 'good' ratings, whereas three studies were judged fair and had serious risks of bias.
https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases-from-aap-conferences/research-finds-significant-reduction-in-depression-suicidality-in-youth-receiving-gender-affirming-care-or-puberty-blockers/
Researchers found a 60% decrease in moderate and severe depression and 73% decrease in suicidality among transgender and non-binary youth who received puberty blockers or gender-affirming hormones over a 12-month period, according to a study abstract presented during the virtual American Academy of Pediatrics 2021 National Conference & Exhibition.
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/145/2/e20191725/68259/Pubertal-Suppression-for-Transgender-Youth-and?autologincheck=redirected
This is the first study in which associations between access to pubertal suppression and suicidality are examined. There is a significant inverse association between treatment with pubertal suppression during adolescence and lifetime suicidal ideation among transgender adults who ever wanted this treatment. These results align with past literature, suggesting that pubertal suppression for transgender adolescents who want this treatment is associated with favorable mental health outcomes.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(17)30099-2/fulltext#seccestitle70
Gender incongruence in children and adolescents is complex, and medical treatment raises several ethical considerations. Clinical decision making has been fostered by research efforts, but there are still substantial knowledge gaps that warrant examination to inform best clinical practice (panel 4). The limited available evidence suggests that puberty suppression, when clearly indicated, is reasonably safe. The few studies that have examined the psychological effects of suppressing puberty, as the first stage before possible future commencement of CSH therapy, have shown benefits.
All of this should also show that puberty blockers are not experimental and are life saving:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7430465/
Puberty delaying medications are currently provided off label to adolescents affected by gender dysphoria and this particular use cannot be investigated by a RCT. We have shown that this does not mean they are experimental drugs or are provided experimentally. Whether or not these (or even approved drugs) are ethically prescribed depends on whether they are likely to serve the patient’s health interests based on the evidence available at the time of prescription.
The published literature provides insight into the likely benefits of GnRHa. In summary, they reduce the patient’s dysphoria (Cohen-Kettenis & Pfäfflin, 2003, p. 171; Kreukels & Cohen-Kettenis, 2011, p. 467), reduce the invasiveness of future surgery (for example, mastectomy in trans men; treatment for facial and body hair, thyroid chondroplasty to improve appearance and cricothyroid approximation to raise the pitch of the voice in trans women) (Cohen-Kettenis & Pfäfflin, 2003, p. 171); GnRHa is correlated with improved psychosocial adaptation (Cohen-Kettenis & Pfäfflin, 2003, p. 171; Kreukels & Cohen-Kettenis, 2011, p. 467) and reduced suicidal ideation and attempts. Hembree noted increased suicidal ideation where blockers were not given (Hembree, 2011; see further, Imbimbo et al., 2009; Kreukels & Cohen-Kettenis, 2011; Murad et al., 2010; Spack, 2008).
The published literature provides insight into the likely benefits of GnRHa. In summary, they reduce the patient’s dysphoria (Cohen-Kettenis & Pfäfflin, 2003, p. 171; Kreukels & Cohen-Kettenis, 2011, p. 467), reduce the invasiveness of future surgery (for example, mastectomy in trans men; treatment for facial and body hair, thyroid chondroplasty to improve appearance and cricothyroid approximation to raise the pitch of the voice in trans women) (Cohen-Kettenis & Pfäfflin, 2003, p. 171); GnRHa is correlated with improved psychosocial adaptation (Cohen-Kettenis & Pfäfflin, 2003, p. 171; Kreukels & Cohen-Kettenis, 2011, p. 467) and reduced suicidal ideation and attempts. Hembree noted increased suicidal ideation where blockers were not given (Hembree, 2011; see further, Imbimbo et al., 2009; Kreukels & Cohen-Kettenis, 2011; Murad et al., 2010; Spack, 2008).
Some people think that puberty blockers might cause kids to think they are transgender and convince them to wrongfully go on to take HRT. The research shows this not to be true:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36318207/
In this cohort study of TGD adolescents, GnRHa use was not associated with increased subsequent GAH use. These findings suggest that clinicians can offer the benefits of GnRHa treatment without concern for increasing rates of future GAH use.
Puberty blockers are in fact a wonder drug. Extremely safe and they can prevent trans kids from experiencing irreversible changes to their body due to the wrong puberty while they reach an age where they are old enough to consent. Similarly, they prevent confused Cis Children (who make up only about 2% of all the kids pursuing puberty blockers) from making a mistake that would create irreversible changes to their body as well. Meaning that this drug helps both trans and cis kids!
They save lives, they are safe, and they help everyone cis and trans!
June 15, 2023
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More here:
https://www.them.us/story/bogus-estrogen-alternative-ashwagandha-pills-scam/amp
More at link:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3mm88/a-sketchy-website-advertised-fake-hormone-pills-to-trans-people-then-it-disappeared
Evil and possibly deadly Scam targeting Trans Women
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT81t7LcG/———
Please Don’t Get Scammed By Fake Hormone “Alternatives” Online
At least one grifter is targeting trans people with ineffective and potentially dangerous supplements.
SAMANTHA RIEDEL
JUNE 08, 2023
It may be Pride Month, but scammers and grifters have no pride or shame, and they don’t stop just because it’s June. So please, don’t take herbal supplements that a random person on the internet told you are just like hormone therapy.
On Tuesday, a Twitter-"verified" brand account calling itself “QueerQuirk” began boldly advertising an “estrogen alternative” available with no prescription called “I Can’t Believe It’s Not Estrogen!” under the sub-brand “EstroLabs.”
“We're officially the 🔌 to get HRT style pills without a doctor's note,” an announcement post claimed, beckoning transgender readers to a Shopify landing page.
Backlash to the post was swift and brutal, as trans folks pilloried the brand for apparently trying to scam vulnerable, desperate trans people who can’t access hormones. As of Thursday, the post had garnered over 1,200 quote retweets, the vast majority warning others not to get scammed or put their health at risk. But the brand seems to be trying to post through it all, uploading a video Wednesday evening that features two “before” and “after” photos to imply (but not directly claim) their “alternative” hormones really work.
[…]
At least one grifter is targeting trans people with ineffective and potentially dangerous supplements.
SAMANTHA RIEDEL
JUNE 08, 2023
It may be Pride Month, but scammers and grifters have no pride or shame, and they don’t stop just because it’s June. So please, don’t take herbal supplements that a random person on the internet told you are just like hormone therapy.
On Tuesday, a Twitter-"verified" brand account calling itself “QueerQuirk” began boldly advertising an “estrogen alternative” available with no prescription called “I Can’t Believe It’s Not Estrogen!” under the sub-brand “EstroLabs.”
“We're officially the 🔌 to get HRT style pills without a doctor's note,” an announcement post claimed, beckoning transgender readers to a Shopify landing page.
Backlash to the post was swift and brutal, as trans folks pilloried the brand for apparently trying to scam vulnerable, desperate trans people who can’t access hormones. As of Thursday, the post had garnered over 1,200 quote retweets, the vast majority warning others not to get scammed or put their health at risk. But the brand seems to be trying to post through it all, uploading a video Wednesday evening that features two “before” and “after” photos to imply (but not directly claim) their “alternative” hormones really work.
[…]
More here:
https://www.them.us/story/bogus-estrogen-alternative-ashwagandha-pills-scam/amp
A Sketchy Website Advertised Fake Hormone Pills to Trans People. Then, It Disappeared
Fake sites are using social media to target the LGBTQ community as more states ban gender-affirming healthcare.
By Chloe Xiang
June 14, 2023, 12:55pm
Last week, a verified Twitter account went viral after advertising fake hormone pills in a scam that specifically targeted some of the most vulnerable members of the LGBTQ community—before the website selling them disappeared from the internet.
The account named “QueerQuirk” began advertising a product called “I Can’t Believe It’s Not Estrogen,” which turned out to be a supplement that has no proven effect on raising estrogen levels and has been shown to instead raise testosterone levels. The tweet led to enormous backlash online, with many pointing out that the “company” seemed to be a scam targeting trans people by either collecting their data or selling them harmful products, or simply taking their money for pills that don't exist.
We're officially the 🔌 to get HRT style pills without a doctor's note,” read a tweet promoting the product. The link attached to the tweet led to a product page on a different site called EstroLabs, which showed that the pills were essentially Ashwagandha supplements being sold for $44.95 per bottle. Ashwagandha is a shrub that is commonly used for stress relief and has not been approved for Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT).
“If Mother Nature had a gender transitioning assistant, it would be Ashwagandha,” the sketchy product’s description read. In the customer reviews section, there appeared to be a fake testimonial that included an image stolen from a Reddit user.
[…]
Fake sites are using social media to target the LGBTQ community as more states ban gender-affirming healthcare.
By Chloe Xiang
June 14, 2023, 12:55pm
Last week, a verified Twitter account went viral after advertising fake hormone pills in a scam that specifically targeted some of the most vulnerable members of the LGBTQ community—before the website selling them disappeared from the internet.
The account named “QueerQuirk” began advertising a product called “I Can’t Believe It’s Not Estrogen,” which turned out to be a supplement that has no proven effect on raising estrogen levels and has been shown to instead raise testosterone levels. The tweet led to enormous backlash online, with many pointing out that the “company” seemed to be a scam targeting trans people by either collecting their data or selling them harmful products, or simply taking their money for pills that don't exist.
We're officially the 🔌 to get HRT style pills without a doctor's note,” read a tweet promoting the product. The link attached to the tweet led to a product page on a different site called EstroLabs, which showed that the pills were essentially Ashwagandha supplements being sold for $44.95 per bottle. Ashwagandha is a shrub that is commonly used for stress relief and has not been approved for Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT).
“If Mother Nature had a gender transitioning assistant, it would be Ashwagandha,” the sketchy product’s description read. In the customer reviews section, there appeared to be a fake testimonial that included an image stolen from a Reddit user.
[…]
More at link:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3mm88/a-sketchy-website-advertised-fake-hormone-pills-to-trans-people-then-it-disappeared
June 14, 2023
Stealing this! (Nt)
June 12, 2023
It is my understanding that you are right and we already have the data
But, again from my understanding, very little of it is from transgender children themselves.
HOWEVER, this is standard practice in the medical community as studies done on kids is very very rare and off-lable use is common. We KNOW it is safe because of the kids with precocious puberty so there is no actual reason to worry about its affects on trans kids. This is standard practice:
https://www.gendergp.com/puberty-blockers-experimental-or-safe/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7430465/
June 12, 2023
This is incorrect trans-exclusionary myth. The research clearly shows that it does not make one more likely to decide to make use of HRT and transition:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36318207/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9793415/
Whoever told you this myth is probably a TERF (trans exclusionary radicle fascist) misrepresenting a different study that shows that kids who take puberty supressors and move on to HRT (meaning they already started it) almost always continue on to take HRT because...they REALLY ARE transgender. Meaning almost no Cis-gender kids are going on to take HRT.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35452119/
BOTTOM LINE puberty blockers are SAFE and greatly reduce suicide saving lives. See post 8:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143086832#post8
You are gravely mistaken on your concerns
People who don't get puberty blockers are more likely...to feel like the gender they were considered at birth when they're 18 because they have secondary characteristics from having gone through puberty.
This is incorrect trans-exclusionary myth. The research clearly shows that it does not make one more likely to decide to make use of HRT and transition:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36318207/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9793415/
Whoever told you this myth is probably a TERF (trans exclusionary radicle fascist) misrepresenting a different study that shows that kids who take puberty supressors and move on to HRT (meaning they already started it) almost always continue on to take HRT because...they REALLY ARE transgender. Meaning almost no Cis-gender kids are going on to take HRT.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35452119/
BOTTOM LINE puberty blockers are SAFE and greatly reduce suicide saving lives. See post 8:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143086832#post8
June 12, 2023
https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases-from-aap-conferences/research-finds-significant-reduction-in-depression-suicidality-in-youth-receiving-gender-affirming-care-or-puberty-blockers/
^ Refers to this research:
https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases-from-aap-conferences/research-finds-significant-reduction-in-depression-suicidality-in-youth-receiving-gender-affirming-care-or-puberty-blockers/
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/145/2/e20191725/68259/Pubertal-Suppression-for-Transgender-Youth-and
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/348989649_Short-term_outcomes_of_pubertal_suppression_in_a_selected_cohort_of_12_to_15_year_old_young_people_with_persistent_gender_dysphoria_in_the_UK
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(17)30099-2/fulltext#seccestitle70
Okay...How about these instead?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33320999/https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases-from-aap-conferences/research-finds-significant-reduction-in-depression-suicidality-in-youth-receiving-gender-affirming-care-or-puberty-blockers/
^ Refers to this research:
https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/news-releases-from-aap-conferences/research-finds-significant-reduction-in-depression-suicidality-in-youth-receiving-gender-affirming-care-or-puberty-blockers/
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/145/2/e20191725/68259/Pubertal-Suppression-for-Transgender-Youth-and
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/348989649_Short-term_outcomes_of_pubertal_suppression_in_a_selected_cohort_of_12_to_15_year_old_young_people_with_persistent_gender_dysphoria_in_the_UK
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(17)30099-2/fulltext#seccestitle70
June 11, 2023
Puberty blockers are safe and save lives!
https://transfemscience.org/articles/puberty-blockers/
May 30, 2023
Sine Die day and Texas SB 1029 (adult trans care ban) did not pass
That said it could still be brought up in special session
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/29/sine-die-texas-legislature-2023/
https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/88R/billtext/html/SB01029I.htm
https://legiscan.com/TX/bill/SB1029/2023
https://www.equalitytexas.org/legislature/legislative-bill-tracker-2023/
I am hoping it gets forgotten in all the other shit they’ve done to us and we have two years to prepare to move…but I have no idea how much of a priority it is to them.
May 10, 2023
More at link:
https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/originals/lesbians-are-not-anti-trans/
'Lesbians being anti-trans is a lesbophobic trope'
‘Lesbians being anti-trans is a lesbophobic trope’
Amy Ashenden, Interim CEO of Just Like Us, is dispelling the harmful trope that lesbians are against the trans community.
WORDS BY AMY ASHENDEN
31st March 2023
[…]
New research by Just Like Us has found that lesbians are the most likely of the whole LGBTQ+ community to be supportive of trans people. Lesbians are the most likely to say they know a trans person (92%), and also the most likely to say they are “supportive” or “very supportive” of trans people (96%). That’s compared to 89% of LGBTQ+ people overall, and just 69% of non-LGBTQ+ people.
The research was independently conducted and surveyed more than 3,600 adults aged 18-25. Even within a group of young adults, who would be expected to be more supportive of trans people, lesbians are still incredibly strong trans allies relative to the rest of the LGBTQ+ community.
But there are other reasons that the idea that lesbians are more likely to be anti-trans doesn’t add up. One is that being a lesbian and being trans are not mutually exclusive – sexual orientation and gender are different parts of our identities. You can be trans and a lesbian.
Secondly, as a lesbian, I see so much overlap with the experiences we and trans communities encounter in the heterosexist world we live in. Particularly, as a butch lesbian, I know that we are both used to living in the margins, to not having our identities respected or understood. Lesbians and trans people stand side by side – we always have done and always will. And this isn’t just my opinion, the research shows this is the case too.
[…]
Amy Ashenden, Interim CEO of Just Like Us, is dispelling the harmful trope that lesbians are against the trans community.
WORDS BY AMY ASHENDEN
31st March 2023
[…]
New research by Just Like Us has found that lesbians are the most likely of the whole LGBTQ+ community to be supportive of trans people. Lesbians are the most likely to say they know a trans person (92%), and also the most likely to say they are “supportive” or “very supportive” of trans people (96%). That’s compared to 89% of LGBTQ+ people overall, and just 69% of non-LGBTQ+ people.
The research was independently conducted and surveyed more than 3,600 adults aged 18-25. Even within a group of young adults, who would be expected to be more supportive of trans people, lesbians are still incredibly strong trans allies relative to the rest of the LGBTQ+ community.
But there are other reasons that the idea that lesbians are more likely to be anti-trans doesn’t add up. One is that being a lesbian and being trans are not mutually exclusive – sexual orientation and gender are different parts of our identities. You can be trans and a lesbian.
Secondly, as a lesbian, I see so much overlap with the experiences we and trans communities encounter in the heterosexist world we live in. Particularly, as a butch lesbian, I know that we are both used to living in the margins, to not having our identities respected or understood. Lesbians and trans people stand side by side – we always have done and always will. And this isn’t just my opinion, the research shows this is the case too.
[…]
More at link:
https://www.gaytimes.co.uk/originals/lesbians-are-not-anti-trans/
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