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This moron is lucky to be alive, Clarence Daniels would've been fully justified in defending himself.

April V. Taylor

Breitbart News is reporting that Georgia Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) President Sam Mosteller has been suspended from the organization following his call for Black families to “exercise their Second Amendment rights” by arming themselves against police. In his statement, Mosteller acknowledged that his suggestion went against the SCLC mission of nonviolence, but he felt compelled to tell Black people to protect themselves because no one else is.

During his comments, Mosteller stated, “We going to have to do something in our community to let the rest of America know that we are not going to be victimized by just anybody whether it be police or folks that decide that Black people are thugs and we need to control that Black community. We [are] not going to allow that anymore.”

The national SCLC office released this statement regarding Mostellar’s comments:

“The Southern Christian Leadership Conference was founded and maintains it’s [sic] position against violence of ANY type. We are founded on the bedrock of nonviolence and we encourage those principles as we seek social justice and social change in American society and around the world.

Although our organization does concur that the justice system in America has too often failed communities of color, particularly black youth, in reviewing the comments made by the Rev. Mosteller on Wednesday, March 31, we have found that his comments do not represent, nor reflect the principles and position of this organization.”

SCLC has said that they are conducting an internal investigation while Mosteller is under an indefinite suspension. In addition, the organization is also demanding that Mosteller complete some internal training.

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http://kulturekritic.com/2015/04/news/sclc-suspends-pastor-who-called-for-black-families-to-arm-themselves-against-police/

April V. Taylor

Breitbart News is reporting that Georgia Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC) President Sam Mosteller has been suspended from the organization following his call for Black families to “exercise their Second Amendment rights” by arming themselves against police. In his statement, Mosteller acknowledged that his suggestion went against the SCLC mission of nonviolence, but he felt compelled to tell Black people to protect themselves because no one else is.

During his comments, Mosteller stated, “We going to have to do something in our community to let the rest of America know that we are not going to be victimized by just anybody whether it be police or folks that decide that Black people are thugs and we need to control that Black community. We [are] not going to allow that anymore.”

The national SCLC office released this statement regarding Mostellar’s comments:

“The Southern Christian Leadership Conference was founded and maintains it’s [sic] position against violence of ANY type. We are founded on the bedrock of nonviolence and we encourage those principles as we seek social justice and social change in American society and around the world.

Although our organization does concur that the justice system in America has too often failed communities of color, particularly black youth, in reviewing the comments made by the Rev. Mosteller on Wednesday, March 31, we have found that his comments do not represent, nor reflect the principles and position of this organization.”

SCLC has said that they are conducting an internal investigation while Mosteller is under an indefinite suspension. In addition, the organization is also demanding that Mosteller complete some internal training.

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http://kulturekritic.com/2015/04/news/sclc-suspends-pastor-who-called-for-black-families-to-arm-themselves-against-police/

Julian Bond was at the forefront of the civil rights battles of the mid-20th century. He says the 'religious discrimination' bills now cropping up all over the nation are a return to the institutional intolerance of those days.



The value of religious freedom is paramount in our country — that’s why it’s enshrined in our nation’s Constitution. Let there be no doubt: People of faith and their right to exercise their closely held religious beliefs are fully protected. Most unfortunately, a select group of insidious activists and elected officials is pretending those protections don’t exist and is threatening the civil rights of LGBT Americans.

Legislators in states such as Indiana, Arkansas, and Georgia are busy pushing bills that purport to further protect religious believers from the so-called scourge of government intrusion. But these bills aren’t about religious belief at all: They’re about discrimination, pure and simple.

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We oppose these bills because they seek not to preserve or protect religious believers but to demean and exclude LGBT people, religious minorities, and others who may find themselves standing on the outside looking in.

I have seen discrimination. I have stood inside businesses that would not serve me because of my race, and I have been told that the rights of those business owners were more important than mine. I countered that logic then, as I do now. We have no crisis of religious discrimination; we have a crisis of fear. I stand against these bills and with those who are fighting to stop them. I refuse to allow discrimination to cloak itself in a shroud of faith. I refuse to give into fear.

DR. JULIAN BOND is a civil rights leader and former member of the Georgia legislature. He is the founder and president emeritus of the Southern Poverty Law Center and served as chairman of the NAACP from 1998 to 2010.

On Friday, the Washington Post published an article titled “19 states that have ‘religious freedom’ laws like Indiana’s that no one is boycotting.” The article snarks about organizations like the NCAA that have protested Indiana’s law, noting “the NCAA didn’t say it was concerned over how athletes and employees would be affected by Kentucky’s RFRA when games were played there last week.” The piece concludes “Indiana might be treated as if it’s the only state with a bill like this, but it’s not.” The piece has been shared over 75,000 times on Facebook.

The Washington Post article largely mirrors the argument advanced by Indiana Governor Mike Pence. Appearing on ABC’s This Week, Pence claimed “Then state-Sen. Barack Obama voted for [the Religious Freedom Restoration Act]. The very same language.”

The same argument is parroted on Fox News and elsewhere.

It’s not true.

The Indiana law differs substantially from the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act, signed by President Clinton in 1993, and all other state RFRAs.

There are several important differences in the Indiana bill but the most striking is Section 9. Under that section, a “person” (which under the law includes not only an individual but also any organization, partnership, LLC, corporation, company, firm, church, religious society, or other entity) whose “exercise of religion has been substantially burdened, or is likely to be substantially burdened” can use the law as “a claim or defense… regardless of whether the state or any other governmental entity is a party to the proceeding.”

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http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/03/30/3640374/big-lie-media-tells-indianas-new-religious-freedom-law/