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Bernie and Amy did a great job tonight.

I thought both of their arguments were substantive and provided a counterpoint to Graham and Cassidy's evasiveness on key issues. When the Republicans resort to fear tactics (Socialism omg!!!) you know you've won. Kudos to both Senators.

EDIT: Grammar

Link to Full Text of Bernie's Medicare-for-All bill

[link:https://www.sanders.senate.gov/download/medicare-for-all-act?id=6CA2351C-6EAE-4A11-BBE4-CE07984813C8&download=1&inline=file|

Too long to copy and paste, never mind the formatting. Enjoy.

Max Baucus, Architect of the ACA, backs Medicare for All

[link:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sanders-steps-push-single-payer-health-care-old-foe-switches-n799911|

WASHINGTON In the summer of 2009, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt. was asked if Max Baucus, the Democratic chairman of the powerful Senate Finance Committee who was taking the lead on health care reform at the time, was open to his ideas.

"To a single-payer idea? No. Not in a million years," Sanders replied to a C-SPAN interviewer.

It turns out the wait was much shorter.

"I just think the time has come," Baucus told NBC News Friday, after stunning healthcare observers earlier in the day by seemingly coming around on single-payer at a public forum. "Back in '09, we were not ready to address it. It would never have passed. Here we are nine years later, I think it's time to hopefully have a very serious good faith look at it."

Baucus' evolution reflects how quickly the once-fringe idea of government-funded health care is gaining traction inside the Democratic party.


A majority of Dems support Medicare for All in the House of Reps, and Senators are starting to publicly support it. The tide is turning for Single Payer. Finally.
Posted by HerbChestnut | Sat Sep 9, 2017, 12:21 PM (1 replies)

Goodbye DU

I stayed until the very end, but it's time to leave. Normally I wouldn't bother to create an OP like this as I'm sure most people don't care (I wouldn't tbh) but I have one last thing to say before signing off for good. I've been a supporter of Bernie Sanders since he announced his candidacy, and I came to this website because it was a place to talk about the campaign with like-minded people. At first it was great. I really enjoyed my time here last summer and was pleased to see so many others as passionate as I am about politics in America. However, as Bernie became more popular, and an actual threat to win the nomination, I noticed an increase in the number of outright hostile threads about him and his supporters. It quickly got to the point where coming to this board became significantly less enjoyable.

As the primary dragged on the vitriol from both sides only got worse, and I got the distinct impression that progressives aren't wanted here whatsoever. Worse, now that Hillary has officially won the nomination, some of the most spiteful posters on this board all of a sudden want to embrace Bernie and his supporters. I'm sorry, but you can't spend an entire year demonizing people only to expect them to shake your hand after you win. It's become abundantly clear that my views and those of other Bernie supporters are not wanted on this board. In some ways, it's a reflection of the Democratic Party right now.

So in an attempt to stay within the ToS, consider this constructive criticism of HRC and the Dem Party. If you really want party unity now and in the future, you need to listen to and embrace the Sanders wing. Yes, we're loud. Yes, we're passionate. We are both of those things because we *truly* believe in progressive ideals. Free college tuition. Single payer healthcare. A sane foreign policy. Environmental justice. Racial justice. Economic justice... The list goes on. Ignore progressives at your own peril.

I'm leaving because my experience on this site has turned sour over the last 9 months, and it's entirely because of certain posters who (frankly) take the progressive vote for granted. Goodbye, it's been an eye opener, and I wish you all the best of luck in the future.

-Herb

Reality is setting in on both sides

Clinton/Kaine is the Dem ticket

Bernie supporters want none of it

There will be more to come from this convention...

Clinton Delegates holding back Progressive Agenda

The Dem Platform has been a mixed bag so far with Hillary's Delegates voting against many Progressive amendments including:

Language against the TPP
Single Payer Healthcare
Specific Language on a Carbon Tax
Revolving Door amendment to keep bankers from occupying regulation positions in government
Ban on Fracking



Discussions are still under way so there could be more to add to this list before the weekend is over, but it's pretty clear who the real Progressives are in that room.

Dem Platform Committee votes *Against* Single-Payer Healthcare 7-6

Saw this on Reddit and various tweets. No other source right now, but I can't imagine this is being made up for any reason.

https://twitter.com/iMayaBerry/status/746550329098051584

A majority of the country wants single payer. A strong majority of the Democratic Party wants single payer. This decision is mind boggling.

If Bernie/Hillary folks can't find common ground on *Electoral Reform* then we're in big trouble

This one should be a no-brainer, and yet there seems to be some real differences of opinion here. Automatic voter registration when turning 18 and Open Primaries is as simple as it gets. If we can't all support that then I don't even know where to start on healthcare, education, foreign policy, etc.

Voter Turnout in UK Referendum: 72%

Compare that to the 35% we typically get in the US for major elections. Think about that. Our electoral system needs serious reform. Automatic voter registration when someone turns 18. Open primaries.
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