agnostic102
agnostic102's JournalWe have to reach out to young bernie supporters who might stay home
I honestly im not worried about the older bernie supporters. i think as this election goes a long and they see the potential that holy shit trump could become president. they will fall in line. Expect a lot of threads in the next few months that start with " i was a bernie supporter but .."
BUT
talking to a few young bernie supporters at my store. they seem militant in there hate for hillary. If a large number of young folks that voted for obama stay home for hillary. That might make the election a lot closer then it has to be. I think we have to reach out to the young bernie voters and explain to them. hillary might not be at the top of your list. but how would you like to be serving on the front lines of a nuclear war with some country that insulted trump and he pushed the red button. i know it sounds dramatic but this egomaniac cannot be allowed near nuclear buttons.
We need to lead with the russian betrayal and tie trump to putin
Im not going to pretend this wiki stuff is not going to hurt or at least be a big distraction. The timing of it couldn't be worse. BUT please consider this. Isnt it so convenient WHEN it was released? that this is the 2ND time this is happend? within the same year?
just had a big argument with a conservative friend of mine. That he could never support hillary because shes so corrupt blah blah.
I pointed out a few things to him. I told him do you think its a coincidence that they the Russians hacked clintons plan of attack on trump and now this? he goes wait wait wait " what do you mean the russians hacked something months ago " (paraphrasing) see he didn't realize this is the 2nd TIME that the Russians have hacked Hillary and the DNC in favor of trump. This changed hes demeanor REAL QUICK.
THEN i pointed out to him that during the NY times interview he said he would NOT defend nato countries against a Russian attack. i said to him do you think this is all JUST A COINCIDENCE??? that trump praises putin, wont defend nato, then the icing on the cake? hes campaign manager has TIES TO RUSSIAN MAFIA? he told me thats bullshit. i said just look it up man. The Russians are colluding with trump to beat hillary.
The beautiful thing about all of this? a lot of old school republican voters do see radical islam as a threat. dont like hillary. BUT THEY HATE and FEAR the soviet union a lot more. Especially with Putin being a KGP agent.
what we need to do is run with this. Launch a series of attacks and spend money putting what i said in point by point attack. Put fear in the old republican gaurd about the ties of trump to putin , the KGP, the russian mafia.
for Bernie supporters, look im disappointed to, i voted for him in california. But thats the nature of politics. The good ole boys always get a bit of advantage. AND i do think changes should be made BUT THIS IS NOT the time to have a family fight. you might think im making this stuff up about russia to attack trump but the fact is these are not MADE UP. there is a REAL REAL possibility the Russians are colluding with trump campaign which is a HUGE THREAT to this country. much much more then debbie.
lets unite to defeat trump then we can fix any mess with the DNC for the future.
EDITED to ADD - if any evidence shows any colluding with trump campaign with the russians. Trump needs to be charged with treason. we cant NOT fuck about with this. this is serous serous issue.
Why these radicals drink, watch porn etc. Some background
My posts arent very popular here as i speak about things that are a bit uncomfortable and i understand. But for the few who read it and learn a bit about the middle east and islam i hope that it helps. (im agnostic now hense my name but im an exmuslim and apostate which unfortunately for me if i went back to my country id be executed so im happy to be here =) )
People are generally confused when it comes to islam and specifically Muslims in general regarding things like porn, pork, and other things considered "haram" in islam.
First if you are a muslim , leaving your religion is extremely extremely hard. Even the victims that get executed for offensis agianst islam are allowed to pray before there death. So having sex outside of marriage doesnt mean you are no longer a muslim it just means the penalty is you will be stoned to death. but you still are a muslim and will be allowed to say your prayers before the rocks come flying essentially. Many many times these victims will be buried in traditional Muslim burials.
So to explain the 9-11 highjackers who went to strip clubs and this attacker in france. Living in a middle eastern country you are forbidden to have relationships with women outside of your family, and there is a lot of pressure on you to do the right thing and live according to sharia.
One of the easiest recruits for groups like isis and al quida , however, are muslims who have gone astray. Guilt, pressure on there families all plays into it. if they become suicide bombers then there misdeeds get washed away. Dying in the sake of jihad is one of the highest things you can do in islam so your past mistakes get cleansed.
Thats why the Orlando shooter who might have been gay himself and grew up listening to a homophobic father talk about how gays are terrible is the hallmark of someone who will go crazy from repressed feelings. You will hear more and more about the attacker in france.. how he might have lost hes children, how he had a terrible relationship with hes family. that he was an alcoholic etc..
For this jihadist he came to a point in hes life where hes life was shit in this world. Hes salvation was for the world after which many muslims believe in dearly. By committing this act he proves to hes handlers like isis and other extremist and wahabbis that hes atoned for hes sins and he should be allowed in heaven.
An example of this is going to be the extremist reactions on the internet. Hes porn addiction, or eating porn wont be the topic. it will be how he fought in the name of allah and are praised by radicals online and in private conversations. Hes haram misgivings will no longer matter. In essense he made the perfect jihadist. someone with a terrible life, wrapped up in guilt of hes life living outside of sharia and finally making atone and coming back to hes religion. at least the way the extremist interpret it anyway.
This is why you constantly hear from many of the families of these attackers "ohh he never went to mosque, ohh he never prayed , ohh he drank alcohol" the fact is none of this matters once jihad is factored hes in decision making. I hope this helps answer some questions.
Dar al-Islam Dar al-Harb ( land of islam land of jihad)
As young muslims one of the things we learn during religious studies is the concept of land of islam and land of jihad. Generally depending how its taught and how extreme the mullah or imam is. The concept refers to jihad on land that is not dominated by islam. Obviously the term alone is disturbing as a religion that employes this thought process has basically an imperialistic tendencies at its core which obviously is very scary. But that is for another day.
What is more concerning at least in short term is the Wahhabi Sunnis who adhere to these radical groups like al quida and isis are attacking land under islam. This is very dangerous situation.
Turkey is a perfect example of this. You have a majority sunni country.. you have erdogan who is basically islamist with a tie ruling the state. you have a country where any terrorist attack will for sure kill innocent women and children muslims who are sunni.. a country who is sympathetic to sunni causes and groups in the middle east including many who are fighting in syria. and yet a bomb went off killing many of them.
Basically at this point they are justifying it as if they kill bunch of innocent sunni muslims thats okay cause they will go to heaven anyway and its good enough to kill just one infidel. That means if they ever get hold of any weapon that can cause mass destruction they will set it off whether its dar al-islam (land of islam or not).
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