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LAS14's JournalThis is the real Hillary!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/america-ferrera/why-hillary-clinton-thrills-the-hell-out-of-me_b_9721434.htmlI've seen a number of these "switched to Hillary" posts.
Does anyone have a comparative count of "Switched to Hillary" vs "Switched to Bernie?" This is a good one.
https://medium.com/robinalperstein/on-becoming-anti-bernie-ee87943ae699#.avb3lmmz8
My campaign re the Vatican visit (also posted in GDP)
A lot of DU time is taken up with a day or so at a time of sorting out what really happened in some situation. Understandably there is partial information, second hand information, wishful thinking, etc. I sincerely doubt that there are anywhere near as many outright lies as people are accused of.
In the case of Sanders’ trip to the Vatican this syndrome repeated itself. But in this case we were presented with stark extremes of truth vs spin regarding whether or not Sanders met with the Pope. At the spin end, major outlets like ABC, NPR, CNN and the Washington Post took the Sanders campaign hook line and sinker. Sanders had a meeting (in one case “an audience”) with the Pope. At the truth end, some wonderful person got a video of the Pope explaining the circumstances of their polite handshake as he was leaving the building where they both spent the night.
I’m very frustrated by bad information and delight in clarification. So I undertook a campaign to post a response to everyone I could find who was under a mistaken impression about the encounter.
I got a lot of push back from people chiding me (to put it mildly) for putting so much importance on this relatively minor event. It’s true that the whole trip annoyed me. Sanders showed bad judgment in setting up a situation which the public could so easily misunderstand, even without the spin meisters’ efforts. I do think Sanders has a genuine interest in the Pope’s message about inequality, but his staff should have known better. But cynically go after the Catholic vote (to whatever extent that played into it) was not my motivation. Rather, I wanted to take the rare opportunity to correct misinformation in a really un-arguable fashion…. The Pope’s own words. Of course, I guess, this being DU, some will accuse him of lying…
And, in case anyone has missed it, here, in the Pope's own words, is what happened re "the meeting."
My campaign re the Vatican visit
A lot of DU time is taken up with a day or so at a time of sorting out what really happened in some situation. Understandably there is partial information, second hand information, wishful thinking, etc. I sincerely doubt that there are anywhere near as many outright lies as people are accused of.
In the case of Sanders’ trip to the Vatican this syndrome repeated itself. But in this case we were presented with stark extremes of truth vs spin regarding whether or not Sanders met with the Pope. At the spin end, major outlets like ABC, NPR, CNN and the Washington Post took the Sanders campaign hook line and sinker. Sanders had a meeting (in one case “an audience”) with the Pope. At the truth end, some wonderful person got a video of the Pope explaining the circumstances of their polite handshake as he was leaving the building where they both spent the night.
I’m very frustrated by bad information and delight in clarification. So I undertook a campaign to post a response to everyone I could find who was under a mistaken impression about the encounter.
I got a lot of push back from people chiding me (to put it mildly) for putting so much importance on this relatively minor event. It’s true that the whole trip annoyed me. Sanders showed bad judgment in setting up a situation which the public could so easily misunderstand, even without the spin meisters’ efforts. I do think Sanders has a genuine interest in the Pope’s message about inequality, but his staff should have known better. But cynically go after the Catholic vote (to whatever extent that played into it) was not my motivation. Rather, I wanted to take the rare opportunity to correct misinformation in a really un-arguable fashion…. The Pope’s own words. Of course, I guess, this being DU, some will accuse him of lying…
And, in case anyone has missed it, here, in the Pope's own words, is what happened re "the meeting."
This expresses my opinion about "the transcripts."
My shorthand for this view is, "Of course she won't release the speeches, she'd be drowned in smears because she said 'Thank you. I'm happy to be here tonight.'
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/04/everyone-knows-why-hillary-clinton-wont-release-her-goldman-sachs-speeches
A major news outlet finally gets it right. Cross post from GDP
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511757172At last - a major media outlet gets beyond the Sanders PR.
This was a headline in Google News. It's Google News that's the "major" outlet, not Quartz.... whatever that is.
http://qz.com/663579/the-pope-met-with-bernie-sanders-out-of-politeness-and-good-manners-he-says/
Again, to Bernie supporters that ask what problem I have with Sanders' "meeting" the Pope. The problem I have is the spin. The implication that there was more of a connection between the two than there is. It is a spin designed to appeal to Catholics in this country. New York Catholics first and foremost at this point.
A VIDEO of the Pope explaining what happened.
And to those hoards of Sanders supporters who ask why I bothered to post this... Because it's an illustration of a smear-prone/inept campaign that speaks before it thinks. That distorts to its own ends. There's the "she said Sanders was unqualified" which he had to back off of. Then "Will you meet with the Pope? Yep." Which he had to walk back after the first utterance. I'm willing to blame the Sanders staff for this behavior, because we see him when he's called to account. But we have to blame Sanders for depending on such people for his staff.
I heard on NPR that Sanders met with Pope Francis.
I was very disappointed in the fact that they just took a Sanders press release at face value. I would expect better. This provides a clearer picture. Both of what happened and to what the Sanders campaign will stoop to.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107103836#post3
Rules for campaign spending.
Does anyone know what sort of rules apply to campaign spending? (Also... what is the name of the agency that oversees this? I think I know, but can't recall it.)
It looks like the Vatican trip was paid for by the campaign, but I can't figure out how it could be called campaign related.
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