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RainCaster

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September 30, 2019

How the diplomatic pros lost Ukraine to Trump

A short, simple explanation of how DFT completely fucked up our relationship with a budding democracy. This is from the WaPo, which may be behind a paywall for some of you. Link added (sorry)


In a matter of months, President Trump and his personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, have twisted U.S. policy in Ukraine to their personal ends, touching off turmoil inside the White House and State Department and weakening — perhaps critically — a bilateral relationship that is crucial to containing Russian aggression in Europe.

The story of Trump’s strongarming of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is first and foremost one of Trump’s abuse of his presidential power in pursuit of personal political gain. But it is also an epic example of how Trump has destroyed U.S. diplomacy in places around the world where, for years, it had worked smoothly and relatively effectively despite the growing partisan polarization in Washington.

As one of the relatively few U.S. journalists who has followed Ukraine closely over the years, I find that the saddest part of this story has been watching a once-cohesive community of U.S. diplomatic pros on Ukraine be crushed as it tried to contain and manage the hurricane-like intervention of Giuliani and Trump. The whistleblower’s complaint offers a partial picture of this unraveling, and I have heard more in several conversations with longtime sources.

Though Trump never had a positive view of Ukraine, the trouble really started with Giuliani, who has a record of working for and with the very Ukrainian actors that U.S. policy has aimed to marginalize: shady business executives and corrupt politicians with ties to Russia, organized crime or both.
September 29, 2019

Have you read the Whistle-blower's Complaint yet? You must!

Too many people say "no", but everyone should read it for themselves. This will take you 15 - 30 minutes to read, and this is truly historical in nature.

You will be conversing with many people who have strong opinions and yet have not read it for themselves. Let them know that they need to do their own research, and that they must begin by reading it unadorned and in its entirety.

If this is true, his goose is cooked.
Not only did DFT insist that a foreign government interfere with a coming US election, he also asked Ukraine to take credit for interfering in the 2016 election. This would only benefit Russia, not the US, not DFT, and certainly not Ukraine. Think about that for a minute--our Traitor in Chief is lobbying for one of our country's biggest enemies to another foreign power.

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A Reformed Republican who saw evil and shook its hand. (Nixon) He now spends his time trying to change the world for the better.
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