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Suggestion

We start referring to Trump as "The Half Day Dictator". We need to have a nickname that tags him as the insane despot that he is but also how pathetic the while thing was.

I'm willing to forgive and forget

I'm willing to forgive and forget for most of these Republicans if they force Trump out and do everything needed to root out white supremacists and significantly tone down rhetoric. This shit needs to be shut down now. Maybe not popular opinion but we can't take revenge om establishment Republicans

Stay calm

As I'm sure we are all aware, there are Republican temper tantrums occuring all over the country right now. There is of course Trump and his insane conspiracy theories and attempts to somehow steal the election that he lost months ago. The nonsense about Mike Pence overruling the electoral college and declaring Trump the winner of the election. The House Republicans and some senate Republicans screaming about non-existent fraud and challenging the results tomorrow. The ultra right wing assholes marching around DC and whatever is happening in Pennsylvania today.

Of course there are some on our side that want to fight like hell and give the Republicans a taste of their own medicine. I see a lot of people online freaking out that something needs to be done. While I don't think any of us really know how widespread those feeling are among non Trump cult members, I think it is extremely important that we don't take the bait. These Republicans trying to disrupt pretty much everything right now want to provoke the Democrats. They want us to be the evil enemy they think we are. One way or another they want to fight.

The issue is that we don't have to. We can let their nonsense die by simply not engaging. None of what they are trying will last longer than a few days. We will win simply by letting the system do its thing. If Trump keeps making illegal phone calls, let the legal system deal with it. If Mike Pence wants to say that Trump won during the certification tomorrow, whatever. He doesn't have that power and he will just look like a moron. If Trump's supporters get violent in DC, let the National Guard and police deal with it. If Ted Cruz wants to create a fuss in congress tomorrow, it won't make any difference. Most people won't be watching and the nightly news will spend 10 seconds talking about it. If Republicans in Pennsylvania won't seat a Democratic state senator then wait a day or two before they back down.

The point is, we have all of the power. The system and our institutions are on our side. There's nothing we need to do other than to trust our country and it's laws are still in tact, which they are. No one has to fight because there's nothing to fight. Let the Republicans make fools out of themselves and tucker themselves out. At worst all of these efforts in all of these places around the country will slightly delay the inevitable.

So sit back, relax, and let our great nation quietly and legally sort these morons out.

Remember our options after tomorrow's election

If we lose, Republicans have given us a roadmap for "exploring all legal options" to challenge the results of the election. Here are some of the things that will be 100% acceptable

1. If either Republican is behind in the vote count at any point, demand that votes stop being counted. Go to ballot counting locations if needed and just scream and scream

2. If either Republican is ahead during the vote count, demand votes keep being counted even though that is exactly what poll workers will be doing. But again, make sure you scream about it like you're being persecuted.

3. If either Dem loses, immediately start filing lawsuits. Just keep filing them with whoever is forced to listen

4. If either Dem loses, California needs to sue Georgia claiming their laws violate the constitution and that the state Democratic Party should be able to decide the "real" winner

5. Block any Republican that might "win" tomorrow from taking their seat in the Senate while the Democratic candidates make secret calls to state officials asking them to change the vote counts in their favor. Meanwhile try to throw out hundreds of thousands of votes from the most red counties in the state

6. If all else fails, President Biden can declare martial law, seize the voting machines, and have the military conduct a "revote" until we get the real results.


These are all reasonable steps according to the GOP. There's nothing wrong with the Democrats forcibly trying to change the results of the Senate races tomorrow. It's all part of their "legal right" to do so.

What are some dumb Trump Presidency moments everyone has forgotten about?

I think failing to do anything about COVID and just generally being an incompetent, racist prick will be Trump's lasting legacy. But I feel it is important to remember all of the other dumb shit he did but that we all kind of forgot about. I would say his distractions worked since it's difficult to remember all of the batshit moments from his bizarre 4 years in the white house but he lost reelection so I guess long-term it didn't work.

So what are some dumb Trump moments that we all forgot about? Here are a few off the top of my head

-The berated a war widow over the phone on her way to her Husband's funeral.

-The held a "Fake News Awards" ceremony in the White House, instead of...working

-He said one of his major accomplishments was helping to design the Space Force flag

-The threw paper towel rolls at hurricane victims like he was handing out prizes at a basketball halftime show

-That time he saluted a North Korean general



Engaging With Trump's Die-Hard Supporters Isn't Productive

Nonetheless, ordinary people worn out by the dramas and lies of the past four years have a right to refuse to take Trumpís most enthusiastic supporters seriously. To reject further debate with people whose views are completely incoherent is not only understandable, but sensible.

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Instead, I am talking about the people who are giving Trump their full-throated support to the very end, even as he mulls a military coup; the people who buy weird paintings of Trump crossing the Delaware, or who believe that Trump is an agent of Jesus Christ, or who think that Trump is fighting a blood-drinking ring of pedophiles. These supporters have gone far beyond political loyalty and have succumbed to a kind of mass delusion. It is not possible to engage them. Indeed, to argue with them is to legitimize their beliefs, which itself is unhealthy for our democracy.

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Ordinary people should tune out the noise. No one needs to think one more minute about why a woman from New York would speed along in her car while ranting into her phone about stolen elections when she ought to have been watching the road. And the media have a particular obligation to end their fascination with these Trump voters. We donít need yet another pilgrimage to diners and gas stations to hear from people whose only sources of information are cable-news hosts plumping fantasies about Venezuelan voting machines. We need not ruminate on the evangelical writer who thinks we must pray for the crackpot lawyer Sidney Powell. And journalists should stop providing media oxygen to would-be heroes such as the Texas mayor who said that if Trump called on him to take up arms, heíd engage in civil war.


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/12/we-no-longer-need-to-engage-with-trumps-die-hard-supporters/617449/

Prediction: McConnell will prove Trump doesn't have an iron grip on the GOP

I think McConnell is betting that Trumps influence over the Republican Party is far weaker than people believe. Trump is throwing a tantrum saying he might encourage his voters to sit out the special election, especially after Moscow Mitch finally recognized Biden as the president elect and told GOP senators to back down on any plans to challenge congressional certification of the electoral vote. I suspect McConnell will be correct when it turns out that Trump saying that has little to no impact on the senate races and then the GOP will quickly move to wash their hands of Trump. A lot of his have watched Republican voters for decades. They always fall into line. I think Mitch is betting that Trump is all bark and no bite. As soon as they realize Trump isn't an actual threat to the party via his influence with voters, Trump is going to be thrown under the bus without hesitation.

Or Mitch is wrong and the dems take the senate. Kind of win win for us really. Either we get a republican party that looks more like 2013 GOP which is certainly better than whatever the last 4 years were all about. Or Trump destroys the Republicans.


Edit: Also don't think I have a soft spot for McConnell. He's probably the most evil person in the government right now. But he is very good at thinking strategically.

Trump's Response to 2016 Recounts

I'm not sure if this has been thrown out there yet but it's interesting. It's Trump's response to Jill Steins recount in 2016.

Trump calls the recount effort "a scam", an attempt by Stein to "fill her coffers" and "the people have spoken and the election is over"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/11/26/politics/donald-trump-jill-stein-recount/index.html

And there are of course tweets


https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/802866941820071937

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/802671162383802368

Massive voter fraud uncovered!

One of the pillars of Trump's brilliant legal strategy of overturning the election because...he didn't come close to actually winning, hinges on the fact that he was ahead in early vote counts in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan before a "huge dump" slowly ate away at his lead all night until he, ya know, lost those states. It's ironclad proof of voter fraud, there's no other explanation that even a 5 year old can understand. No! It's fraud!

Well I hate to inform you that I have discovered similar fraud in past elections, none more blatant and malevolent than McCain stealing West Virginia from Obama in 2008! Look at this! Obama was up by 7 points in West Virginia before a "massive dump" ruined his lead and cost him the states electoral votes!

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I can't believe no one noticed after 12 years. The fraud was staring us in the face for over a decade! I'm bringing this straight to the Supreme Court! Look out John McCain!



And if you're wondering, the answer is yes, I am extremely bored at work right now with absolutely nothing productive to do.

Why did Trump do nothing to stop massive voter fraud in this country?

Why did the Trump administration do nothing to protect our election from this massive, widespread voter fraud that they are claiming? If what they are saying is true, wouldn't that mean that Trump is dangerously incompetent and unqualified because he did nothing to address the threat? Voter fraud on the scale they are alleging would be one of the greatest attacks on our country in our history yet it happened under Trump's watch? Even of their obviously batshit election conspiracy theories were correct, wouldn't it be a damning indictment on Trump's ability to run the country and keep is safe?
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