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Trump takes over Coronavirus messaging


Obama deserves a lot of credit for his statements on Cuba

I may be wrong, but it seemed his comments on the Castro regime were unprecedented for a U.S. president. Before he said it, it was a no-no to acknowledge any positives.

It reminds me of his comments on the U.S. overthrowing Mosaddeq in Iran, in his Cairo speech. They're both basic facts about history that are forbidden to discuss, and a U.S. president has acknowledged that history. In both cases the RW freaks predictably threw a fit, but normal people responded rationally.

So, now if Bernie or some other future candidate or president acknowledges those same facts, and people freak out, they can say, "Obama said the same thing".

3 years go, Bill Maher compared Trump to Norma Desmond

start at 1:28

Watch Obama talk about Castro's progress in education and health care


Bernie (and Warren) could use the 2008 crash against Trump

people are talking about what Trump could use against Bernie, but what about the very powerful argument that Bernie could and would make, that other candidates won't or can't make nearly as well (except for Warren).

The crash was a crime and they got away with it. No one went to jail and no one paid a political price. Except arguably Hillary in 2016. and McCain in 2008

Bernie could say, remember you used to have a house? You didn't just lose it, someone stole it from you. Someone like Steve Mnuchin stole it from you.

Remember when everyone was losing their homes? A tragedy right? Well not for everyone, remember Trump said:

Two years before the housing market collapsed in 2008 and millions of Americans lost their homes, Donald Trump said he was hoping for a crash.

"I sort of hope that happens because then people like me would go in and buy," Trump said in a 2006 audiobook from Trump University, answering a question about "gloomy predictions that the real estate market is heading for a spectacular crash."

There's audio of this, Bernie could make it into an ad. Maybe ask, what about now? Is he still hoping for a crash?

To be fair, the first reference I found to this Trump quote was in fact Hillary brought it up in a debate, but it certainly wasn't the center of her campaign,


“In fact, Donald was one of the people who rooted for the housing crisis,” Hillary Clinton said when discussing the recovery from the Great Recession. “He said back in 2006, ‘Gee, I hope it does collapse because then I can go in and buy some and make some money. Well it did collapse.”

“That’s called business, by the way,” Trump said, interrupting. But Clinton talked over him.

“Nine million people lost their jobs, five million people lost their homes,” she said.

Clinton appeared to be referencing when Trump, in 2006, said regarding a crash: “I sort of hope that happens because then people like me would go in and buy.”

Bill Clinton after his acquital

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