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FYI: not jumping to conclusions includes not assuming cops were justified in killing people

simply because they claim they were (and often, when they haven't).

We keep seeing people demand that we not jump to the conclusion that police officers were wrong to kill people they encountered - that we're wrong to prejudge before we "know all the facts."

But almost invariably, those who insist that we shouldn't assume the killings were unjustified turn right around and tell us why the cops were justified to kill and that the person killed was a bad person who caused their own deaths (or more recently, that a baby whom the police was shot was killed because his father was "a monster". Usually, those assumptions are based on the initial reports that the police gave to the press. But often, they're just created out of whole cloth even before the police put out their narrative.

If you really believe that it's wrong to judge these matters before we have all the facts, that should include not jumping in to give the police the benefit of the doubt, assuming they were right to kill and that the person they killed was responsible for their own deaths (or in the case of that poor baby, his father bore sole responsibility and the people who shot him bore none) and expect everyone else to do the same.
Posted by StarfishSaver | Wed May 5, 2021, 11:06 AM (9 replies)

NBC: Baby boy killed during attempted arrest in Mississippi

A baby boy died from injuries he suffered when Mississippi police gunned down his murder suspect father, authorities said Tuesday.

The months-old child was traveling with his father, Eric Derell Smith, 30, who had been wanted in connection with a double-homicide investigation in Louisiana, officials said.
Biloxi police learned that Smith had crossed into Mississippi on Interstate 10, and, at mile marker 40, "the suspect drove into the grass median and became stuck" at about 3 p.m., according to De Back's statement.

"As the suspect exited the vehicle, shots were fired. Medical attention was given to the suspect but he died as a result of injuries sustained," De Back said. "The juvenile did receive injuries and was taken to a local medical facility for treatment."


Posted by StarfishSaver | Tue May 4, 2021, 08:27 PM (85 replies)

Does anyone believe Kevin McCarthy was really "caught on an hot mic"?

Posted by StarfishSaver | Tue May 4, 2021, 03:41 PM (9 replies)

In May 2005, it never occurred to anyone that the Dems would take back the House and Senate in 2006

Posted by StarfishSaver | Tue May 4, 2021, 08:14 AM (0 replies)

Are the people who attack Congressional Democrats for trying to work with Republicans

the same people who insist that Democrats need to reach out to Trump voters?

If so, I'm confused.

If it's crazy for Congressional Democrats to reach out to Congressional Republicans because it's a waste of time, why do they think we'll be any more successful convincing the people who keep voting them in to office to change? They're all swimming in the same swamp, as far as I'm concerned. I'm fine with leaving them there.

Now, if they want to crawl out of the swamp and come and dip their toes into our pool, cool. But It's up to them.
Posted by StarfishSaver | Mon May 3, 2021, 11:09 AM (24 replies)

Food for thought


My friend said “I’d rather offend my white friends than bury my black friends” and it is all I have thought about for two days
Posted by StarfishSaver | Sun May 2, 2021, 03:10 PM (6 replies)

Walk that walk, ladies!

Posted by StarfishSaver | Thu Apr 29, 2021, 09:38 AM (34 replies)

James Carville is on tv again warning Dems not to alienate moderate voters by being too woke

"Woke" is generally defined as being aware of and actively attentive to issues of racial and social justice.

So Carville is telling Black and Brown folk that Democrats should stop being aware of and actively attentive to our concerns because it might upset moderate (white) voters.

And people wonder why many of us are telling him to STFU.

Tim Scott is STILL talking?

I muted the tv, but every time I look at it hoping he's gone, there he is ...
Posted by StarfishSaver | Wed Apr 28, 2021, 10:41 PM (0 replies)

Judge blocks release of bodycam footage of Andrew Brown's killing. Cites deputies' safety

among other things.


Posted by StarfishSaver | Wed Apr 28, 2021, 12:59 PM (22 replies)
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