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A friend made an interesting point about Biden that I don't have a response for

She said that every Democrat who's won the presidency on the last 45 years - Carter, Clinton, Obama - were new faces who didn't run on their established Washington credentials but positioned themselves as the future of the party and country. And, with the exception of Dukakis, every candidate who lost - Mondale, Gore, Kerry, Clinton - ran as the "old, experienced hand." Given this, she argues that the party needs to nominate one of the more "cutting edge" candidates and not turn to Biden.

This troubled me because, while I haven't settled on a candidate yet, I think Biden could be our best bet because of his experience and arguable "electability." I'm not sold on that, but I do see that as a strong argument in his favor.

I didn't have an answer to push back against her argument. Usually, I'm pretty good at that but I keep thinking her argument has a hole in it that I'm missing.

Is there an argument to be made for going for the established, "old school" candidate this time, notwithstanding the history? Is it that we're facing a situation unlike anything ever seen before, so we can't treat past as prologue? Or something else?

I'm looking for serious answers here. Thanks.
Posted by StarfishSaver | Fri Aug 30, 2019, 09:18 PM (46 replies)

Chris Hayes' live audience Ted Talk looks like the last 10 minutes of "Network"

I can't.

What's on TCM?
Posted by StarfishSaver | Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:11 PM (12 replies)

Gillibrand drops out

Kirsten Gillibrand Drops Out of Democratic Presidential Race

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, who presented herself in the presidential race as a champion of women and families, said Wednesday that she was withdrawing from the Democratic primary after failing to qualify for a third debate next month a development she described as fatal to her candidacy.

Ms. Gillibrand said in an interview that she would endorse another candidate in the primary but had not yet picked a favorite. Though she stopped short of saying she would endorse a woman, Ms. Gillibrand, who has made electing women to Congress a personal cause, said the next president had to be capable of uniting the country and suggested that a woman might be best suited for the job.

I think that women have a unique ability to bring people together and heal this country, Ms. Gillibrand said, adding, I think a woman nominee would be inspiring and exciting.

But she added: I will support whoever the nominee is, and I will do whatever it takes to beat Trump.

Posted by StarfishSaver | Wed Aug 28, 2019, 05:35 PM (52 replies)

I just saw Steyer's commercial and don't get it

He claims that as a businessman, he can "go head-to-head against Trump and expose him as a fraud and a failure."

How does that make him suited to be president? Can't he call out Trump as a fraud and a failure without running for president?

You should vote for me for president because I can tell everyone how awful Trump is just isn't compelling pitch to me.
Posted by StarfishSaver | Fri Aug 23, 2019, 10:55 PM (62 replies)

Former P&G CEO: "I'll never vote Republican again"

Posted by StarfishSaver | Fri Aug 23, 2019, 09:29 PM (32 replies)

Black people strutting past Trump Tower when it becomes 725 Barack H. Obama Avenue

Posted by StarfishSaver | Sun Aug 18, 2019, 02:44 PM (20 replies)

CHEER BREAK: Rep. Clyburn tells turtle jokes

Posted by StarfishSaver | Fri Aug 16, 2019, 11:48 PM (2 replies)

Since we're doing conspiracy theories, how about this one?

Epstein felt angry and betrayed by Trump and Barr, two old friends for whom he had done countless favors and he was always sure would have his back. On top of that, the thought of spending the rest of his life in prison as a convicted pedophile was unbearable to him - and he was looking for an opportunity to end it all.

And then he came up with a brilliant plan. He would maneuver himself into a position in which he could take his life and, knowing how disorganized and badly managed the MCC was, it wasn't difficult. He asked to be taken off suicide watch and then waited for the perfect opportunity when the guards weren't paying attention to him and did the deed, knowing full well that his death would not only release him from his misery, but would cause endless chaos and suspicions to befall Trump and Barr. People would never believe they hadn't caused his death. And because things looked so suspicious, the media, law enforcement and the courts would be much more likely to keep digging into their involvement with Epstein and his operation and they couldn't tamp it down as effectively as they'd like because that would make them look even more guilty. This would dog them to their graves whereas, had Epstein stayed alive, he would have eventually disappeared into the system and been pretty much forgotten.

The ultimate revenge.

Don't scoff. Since we're coming up with conspiracies, mine is just as good as any other.
Posted by StarfishSaver | Fri Aug 16, 2019, 06:00 PM (14 replies)

Anyone shocked by the conditions leading to Epstein's death haven't read "The New Jim Crow"

Or they just didn't care when it was primarily black men who were being subjected to these conditions.

But wouldn't it be interesting if Epstein's death led to some real federal prison reform?
Posted by StarfishSaver | Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:34 AM (1 replies)

One serious problem with the flood of evidence-less Epstein conspiracy theories

They're likely to discourage his victims from talking and cooperating.

Posted by StarfishSaver | Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:47 AM (3 replies)
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