Why does he keep saying

"please, read along with me?" How many times is he going to say this?

Sorry!

Where is the Day 4 Defense thread? Guess I'll get a cup of coffee...

There will be no excuse

if the Repubs do not convict Trump. Nada, zippo, zero. This is it.

If they were not listening, it was because they were not doing their duty today. If this were an actual criminal trial, they would have been admonished by the trial judge. Your political dollars at work, people. These people are not worth it. Their shortcomings were on display.

Some of them were allowed to go elsewhere because of the pandemic. That's okay. But those that allowed themselves to be viewed as they did other things rather than listen, are fools, and despicable. People lost their lives. At least they could listen.

If they do not convict Trump, they own it. Forever. How they could sleep at night, I do not know. This will be in the written record. Don't ever call yourselves "patriots" again.

Not sure if I should continue in the Trial thread

or not.

The House Managers hit on Trump's anticipated defense of free speech twice. They must feel that it is his only defense. I think so, too.

They might point out that while Trump incited a riot (which they will claim was not intentional,) the charge before them is inciting an insurrection (which they will claim was not intentional.)

I think this would be splitting hairs. The Defense's job is to give the Repubs a hook to hang their hats on. So, when they get called out on media bytes, they can give a plausible excuse.

I am not only convinced that Trump is guilty, but now I favor his going to jail -- which is not on the table this day. We have to move on to the vote to prevent him from ever holding office again.

Can someone provide a link to

Day 3 Part 2 of our discussion? I am lost.

Thank you for my heart!!!

Who is the man speaking now?

It's all on the GOP

Er, QOP...

Trump is not President, nor a member of Congress. He is now a private citizen who, like the rest of us, has only one vote. He can call Repubs all he wants and threaten them, but he is out.

It's time for the thrall of Trump to wear off. Wake up, QOP! Your behavior is abominable. Worshipping Trump will not save your jobs. Having a civil war in the Congress is demeaning and counterproductive.

We do not want Trump to run again for anything. That's the whole point. This traitor is a domestic threat which the QOP is enabling yet still.

Wake up, you villainous children! You do not want your names associated with Trump. It's not too late! (But, too late for me to invite you over for tea.)

I am curious about this

"breaking for the Sabbath" request that Trump's attorney is making. What do you think? Would saying NO deprive Trump of any reasonable defense?

I don't know if this source is forbidden or not: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/06/us/politics/trump-impeachment-trial.html

but, if you don't trust it, just Google the subject, as there are lots to choose from.

I'm thinking that it will benefit Trump and not us. And, I didn't know that there is supposed to be a Senate break next week. Or, a holiday on Monday. I think that a break in the trial will decrease momentum and cause the tide of the trial to change. I also think that they will cut evidence and hurry the trial up, all because one of Trump's lawyers is observant.

I thought it was funny that Schoen said we could break from sundown on Friday to the end of Saturday, and resume on Sunday, which for many Christians is the Sabbath. So, we have from a huge part of Friday all the way through to Monday that they can cut out -- except that Monday is some Senate holiday, followed by more vacation days.

I dunno. I think that Trump's lawyer should suck it up, just like the Christians will have to do. No break, no way, get it done.

If they do allow a delay, they should dump the Senate break and bring in even more evidence and witnesses. Punish them for this good.

Just think about it. I am so angry about the defecation in the hallways of our Capitol, and about the threat of hanging and murder. Why should Trump get any kind of a break at all? He uses distraction like a toy. That's what this is, like icing the kicker.

My dog and cat worked it out.

They're better than I am. Nicer creatures.

I live with a very gentle, 90-pound malamute mix who is a sweetheart about everything except her food. I am the only exception to her possessive, touch-my-food-and-I'll-thrash-you attitude. Her food is her food, and another animal's food is also hers.

I also live with an older cat who is healthy but falling victim to older age slowdowns. She is mindful of my wishes, but she pursues her interests with insistence and an I-don't-give-a-damn attitude. If she were human, she'd be wearing purple.

I am not a fool, and I am seeking to keep them separated. But, I brought my dog inside because it's winter and if I'm cold, she's cold. My dog does not like being inside, so I am forcing her. Well, I gave my dog the cat's water dish location and moved my cat's into the kitchen. She knows where it is.

So, I walk to where the dog is, and out pops my cat from behind the dog, where she has been drinking water from *her* dish. She strolls past the dog without a care in the world, and the dog is looking at her and wagging her tail. I watch carefully, but there is no problem.

These animals have never met before. Within two days, it's all good. I feed my dog separately and make sure that my cat can't walk past the dog food bowl. But the water bowl is now shared.

A dog is a dog and a cat is a cat. They are not supposed to get along unless you raise them together. But, these two came to some kind of understanding.

I do not think I can ever get past the bitter feelings I have against Repubs. I just don't think I can. I know Joe needs us to get over it (I can see how hard it will be for him to get anything done,) but I don't think I can. I want to go back to a nonpolitical life, but I am painfully aware that we all will have to fight at the midterms.

This isn't my life and I don't want it. But I feel like if I turn my back, my country may disappear. I see the Russians starting to fight the tyranny in their country, and I want to be part of the mindset that the Earth is worth fighting to keep whole, people should be free to pursue peaceful interests, and nobody should be able to dictate to me. I'll choose, thank you anyway.

I can choose to reconcile, like my dog and cat have shown to me, but there is no trust anymore. Maybe I'll feel better after Trump's trial. Maybe.

A lot of bread to be baked...