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Bloomberg is beginning to pay felon's outstandingfees in Florida so they can vote

This is after Florida's court ruled that requiring those fees to be paid does not amount to a poll tax because it is not related to their voting. However now Florida is trying to raise a criminal inquiry against Bloomberg accusing him to pay people to vote because he is paying their legal fees. The twitter person here is making a great argument about how if it isn't actually a poll tax and is unrelated to voting, then this shouldn't be a problem. But if Florida continues to allege that Bloomberg paying these peoples' fees is helping them vote, they are admitting it is actually a poll tax and an illegal law.

https://twitter.com/TooMuchMe/status/1308849621041590276?s=20

Also hella props for Bloomberg for stepping up like this.

A thought on the "state legislature overriding the popular vote..

And appointing their own electors" discussion.

I just realized that most states probably already have laws on the books that dictate how electors are chosen, which I assume they would have to abide by. In a state like PA where the speaker is entertaining the idea, wouldn't they need to change the law before they can change the process for appointing electors? With a Democratic governor and without a veto proof majority, I do not think that is likely.


Can somebody either confirm or deny this for me? :

370,694 Votes have been cast for the general election

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html

Breakdown of registration data available from the votes:


Voted by Party Registration
Reporting states with party registration data: FL, IA, NC

Party Count Percent
Democrats 96,420 54.9
Republicans 27,678 15.8
Minor 510 0.3
No Party Affiliation 50,907 29.0
TOTAL 175,515 100.0

So it looks like we need to win the republican state legislatures back too

Here's a scenario: Let's say the Republicans follow through with trying to organize republican state legislatures to appoint their own electors -as the constitution allows. Biden win by a comfortable electoral college margin, but still narrowly loses Florida. Well, Florida's new legislators are sworn in immediately when they are elected. So one option would be that if Republicans really want to steal the election when they lose, Democrats -after winning enough state legislatures, will have to counter that balance by appointing their own electors as well.

Suffice to say, the goal now must also be to win as many state legislatures in states where they are sworn in immediately or shortly after election. This way, we can also prevent the sort of ratfuckery that Trump and the GOP are openly discussing now.

https://ballotpedia.org/When_state_legislators_assume_office_after_a_general_election

States where legislators assume office the year of their election
Legislature (H/S) When sworn in
Alabama State Legislature
(H, S)

Alabama legislators assume office the day following their election.[47]
California State Legislature
(A, S)

California legislators assume office the first Monday in the December following their election.[48]
Florida State Legislature
(H, S)

Florida legislators assume office on the day they are elected in the general election.[49]
Hawaii State Legislature
(H, S)

Hawaii legislators begin their terms on the day that they are elected in the general election.[50]
Idaho State Legislature
(H, S)

Idaho legislators are sworn in on the first day in December following the general election.[51]
Indiana State Legislature
(H, S)

Indiana legislators assume office the day after their general election.[52]
Maine State Legislature
(H, S)

Maine legislators assume office on the first Wednesday of December following the general election.[53]
New Hampshire State Legislature
(H, S)

New Hampshire legislators assume office on the first Wednesday in December in even-numbered years, one month and one day after the November elections.[54]
North Dakota State Legislature
(H, S)

North Dakota legislators assume office December 1st.[55]
Oklahoma State Legislature
(H, S)

Oklahoma legislators assume office on the state's statehood day on November 16.[56]
South Carolina State Legislature
(H, S)

South Carolina legislators assume office the Monday after the election.[57]
Tennessee State Legislature
(H, S)

Tennessee legislators assume office on the day of their election. However, the governor and state officers are not sworn in until January 15 following the election, and the legislature is not organized for session until January.[58]

West Virginia State Legislature
(H, S)

West Virginia legislators assume office on the first day of December following their election.[59

265,470 have now voted as of 9/22/2020

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html


Here is the breakdown from data available:

Voted by Party Registration
Reporting states with party registration data: FL, NC

Party Count Percent
Democrats 85,240 55.1
Republicans 24,381 15.8
Minor 428 0.3
No Party Affiliation 44,723 28.9
TOTAL 154,772 100.0

Could the pennsylvania mail ballots be counted as literacy tests?

They require carefully following written instructions and if those instructions are not perfectly followed, your vote will not count. Could that be a violation of the civil rights act banning literacy tests? It is conceivable that the naked ballots without secrecy sleeves thrown out will tilt heavily democratic...

There is a reason why Trump outperforms gop senators in their home states

Much of the time even in states like NC and SC (graham is tied but Trump is well ahead). It is because their voters actually see the establishment GOP as extremist religious freaks, and rump as somehow a moderate. Painting Trump as a swamp religious extremist like the gop could be a very good winning strategy.

What happens, exactly, if Biden wins by a landslide and the scotus rules 5-4

That Trump actually won? Or something to that extent? Would that really be a constitutional crisis, or could it be something we could just ignore? Say the states certify Biden as the winner, the electors vote for Biden, and the new congress certifies the result. Per the constitution, the candidate that was elected via the electoral college, becomes president. Right? Or am I way off base here?

Could the scotus really do something so entirely at odds with the constitution?

What is the best way to vote?

I've been conflicted on this. One reason I have voted by mail since it has been allowed in California, is because I knew the risk of vote counts being tampered with or lost with machines, and tabulators. Now, with the postmaster general's efforts to ratf*ck the election,I am not entirely sure vote by mail is the best way to go, due to the ballot potentially not being received in time. On the other hand, a paper, verifiable ballot is much harder to change, than an electronic vote. I may be opting to drop off my mail ballot in person at an early voting booth if I can here in California. What do you think the best way to vote would be?.


On edit: Another thought I had about why Trump has been freaking out about mail voting and trying to undermine it is because it appears that a big reason he won could have been based also on the undercounting and loss of votes using election software that was easily hacked (and likely was), discounting1 out of every ten democratic votes.

165,963 people have now voted

This includes early votes and ballots received by mail by local elections offices based on the count this group was able to attain so far. There is still likely to be more that have not been reported, and I know that the election project and Michael McDonald is working hastily on getting that information.

Oh and check out the breakdown:

Democrats 68,777 55.2%
Republicans 19,494 15.7%
Minor 335 0.3
No Party Affiliation 35,922 28.8%
TOTAL 124,528 100.0 %

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html
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