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Igel

(37,614 posts)
25. She's arguing in gaps.
Fri Dec 22, 2017, 12:23 PM
Dec 2017

RT is, at times, no different from the BBC. If there's no government edit on how to cover hardwood usage by China in Indonesia, it's just another government-supported media source. The problem with government-run media isn't that everything they say is controlled, but that some is and you can't tell the difference.

That's a really hard point for some people to get. In disinformation, not everything presented is false. So something can be planted and be 95% true. "Confidence building" is another way of saying "promoting self-deception".


Now, I've seen the photo being talked about, but I didn't notice the details necessary to support or disconfirm what she's said. I've been to invited dinners that were catered by some other group. Receptions of various kinds, meetings for administrators or when UC regents were in town. UCLA Alumni events. I've sat down at nice tables all arranged, with place settings for 4 or 6 or 8. Sometimes the table was full. Sometimes, there were empty place settings because not everybody showed up. And not everybody shows up on time or there isn't staff to clear the tables of unused place settings. Moreover, nobody's tied to a seat, so people did get up and move around. Spend the main course with one table, shift elsewhere for dessert (because few people will be showing up that late).

So if you look at the table--it's hard to see much of anything concerning some plates--you notice the following. (?1479834100)

Putin's plate is clean, as far as I can see. Food's been served. There might be a water glass in front of him. Or not--hard to make out perspective. It might have been there, waiting; he might have asked for it; he might have brought it. Behind him at a nearby table there are empty chairs in front of place settings containing food that's been served. Stein's eaten at least part of her food, so while it's possible that we're just seeing the part of Putin's plate that he didn't put food on, it's also possible that Putin either moved seats or declined that course, with no way of being sure which of the three options he did just based on that still photo.

Again, though, this is all less "Putin interfered" and more "this is why we didn't win" talk.

As for why he was at that table, maybe he just wanted to have a picture of him taken with Stein to provoke this kind of theory. Or perhaps she was irrelevant.

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She deserves NO AIRTIME! FarPoint Dec 2017 #1
Im all for shining the light on that roach RhodeIslandOne Dec 2017 #16
I never understood why she had so much support from "intellectual" liberals. maddiemom Dec 2017 #28
Yeah really. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #38
She's like an Orly Taitz. R B Garr Dec 2017 #42
Russian agent Stein... IluvPitties Dec 2017 #2
She sounds incoherent. madaboutharry Dec 2017 #3
She's a cornered rat, fully in touch with reality. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #9
She's a lying liar who lies. yardwork Dec 2017 #4
You know she is lying if her mouth is moving. Joe941 Dec 2017 #6
I still can't believe... Joe941 Dec 2017 #5
I thought they were his body guards DUgosh Dec 2017 #7
It was a totally ridiculous interview. Steph was not at her best. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #8
Steph Ruhle's background is in finance... Wounded Bear Dec 2017 #21
She was interviewing somebody who probably committed treason. MoonRiver Dec 2017 #24
She is much better with Ali Velshi. Atman Dec 2017 #35
Yes, I do too radical noodle Dec 2017 #46
Useful idiot is not a very good liar dalton99a Dec 2017 #10
Suck it up Stein -- you've been caught, own it girl. ATL Ebony Dec 2017 #11
yup.. she needs to own her fuckery. JHan Dec 2017 #43
Saw that too. Trumpocalypse Dec 2017 #12
Thankfully she has little credibility. n/t CousinIT Dec 2017 #13
she's so screwed Javaman Dec 2017 #14
Don't worry MFM008 Dec 2017 #15
Didn't hear the interview but . . . peggysue2 Dec 2017 #17
I wonder if any Dems regretted their donations to her vote recount project pnwmom Dec 2017 #18
I cant help it..... Maggiemayhem Dec 2017 #19
K&R. Traitor. She did it for ego and greed. I hope she goes down. 58Sunliner Dec 2017 #20
I think she helped sway democrat votes away from Hillary. lancelyons Dec 2017 #22
Her own defense is outing her! colorado_ufo Dec 2017 #23
She's arguing in gaps. Igel Dec 2017 #25
Interesting! leftstreet Dec 2017 #27
I, too, never notices the empty plate. Atman Dec 2017 #37
So Vlad just happen to find himself at a table BoneyardDem Dec 2017 #41
OK mcar Dec 2017 #48
Susan Sarandon types . stonecutter357 Dec 2017 #26
OK class: old guy Dec 2017 #29
I find it curious that she has been given airtime on every network spewing her bullshit. Who in the still_one Dec 2017 #30
Jill Stein no longer has any effect on anything yuiyoshida Dec 2017 #31
I can't begin to describe how intensely I despise this woman. I hope liberals have seen the error... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2017 #32
Steom was clearly lying during that interview Gothmog Dec 2017 #33
she should have said elmac Dec 2017 #34
Once again, they're not even good liars.. paleotn Dec 2017 #36
Who ya gonna believe: me or your lying eyes? By the way, send money for a recount... Hekate Dec 2017 #39
Why is MSNBC having a Russian agent on their air to spread propaganda? nt Maven Dec 2017 #40
She has exposed herself with her own words. Not one single word R B Garr Dec 2017 #44
Presidential bids JeaneRaye Dec 2017 #45
She needs to be attacked every time. Identified as a Putin lackey. LiberalFighter Dec 2017 #47
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