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arely staircase

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51. i dont have a team

Mon Jul 23, 2012, 07:06 PM

Jul 2012

when its:

all guns must be banned

vs.

the right tote around the firepower of a platoon of marines

and nobody will budge, they see one another as "tramplers of rights" or "fetishists".

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Fear drives opposition to gun control [View all] SecularMotion Jul 2012 OP

Actually fear led to a lot of the gun control laws 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #1

Twelve innocent dead in Colorado Fumesucker Jul 2012 #3

12 is the magic number huh? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #5

Already happened.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #7

So the proper response to giving up lots of our rights out of fear 11 years ago 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #8

All I care about now is the right not to have my grandkids mown down in cold blood.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #13

All I care about is not having my grandkids blown up by terrorists 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #18

Everything but the fucking guns will be gone anyway.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #19

You need to get out more 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #20

I was relating my own experiences.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #23

I think you misinterpret opposition 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #25

Interesting you should bring up football.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #28

So people are talking about banning football now? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #47

A truly good mental health care system will cost more than any politician is going to spend.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #52

Oh well it'd be expensive and difficult, nevermind then 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #53

Neither one is going to happen.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #57

Um . . . k 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #66

"gloating by some in the pro gun crowd"? Gloating? You actually saw gloating? Where? Links? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #44

"Give Up".. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #50

No one can look at that web page and find any "gloating" whatsoever. None. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #54

"Give up" is what you tell the loser.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #55

Nope. Some such as yourself may envision yourself and others as losers. Others may simply want AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #59

I heard that shit in 2000 from Republicans.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #60

You really need to widen your circle. And stop listening so much to Republicans. And stop AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #63

And you need to stop giving commands to people about whom you know nothing. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #65

Somebody other than you then. For you, I know that you claimed that DU gun owners are "gloating". AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #68

Give up... Fumesucker Jul 2012 #69

"It's this sort of juvenile rant that makes the gun-control side such a joke." AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #70

Give up.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #71

Excuse me if I don't accept the Jim Jones koolaid. Tejas Jul 2012 #74

It's this sort of juvenile rant that makes the gun-control side such a joke. rl6214 Jul 2012 #21

I love you too... Fumesucker Jul 2012 #24

Nope, and how many of them are in there on petty drug charges? rl6214 Jul 2012 #33

Beyond my pay grade.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #35

"courts are revolving doors in the USA" - and? Tejas Jul 2012 #75

Name a nation on this planet that has a bigger percentage of its citizens incarcerated than the USA. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #78

You'd love Chicago. Guns are completely banned. Only 45 shot over Memorial Day shadowrider Jul 2012 #27

Evidently the UK is a remarkably target rich environment.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #29

You've lamented before how many we put in prison 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #31

I'm having trouble imagining how such a situation could come about in a rational society.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #38

Huh? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #46

Is it rational to deal rationally with an irrational society? Fumesucker Jul 2012 #56

I would say we're semi-rational 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #67

It all depends on who's taking the rights away... NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #9

he says it's tv news and not the NRA that's driving this. Kaleva Jul 2012 #2

it's not fear, it's common sense. bowens43 Jul 2012 #4

It's the ammunition. Gregorian Jul 2012 #6

And I see it differently. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #12

I believe nonviolence is the only way toward a world where people can live side by side in peace. Gregorian Jul 2012 #17

That is a beautiful philosophy. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #42

That really does give me something to think about. Gregorian Jul 2012 #73

Hey, I'm glad we can share ideas. NewMoonTherian Jul 2012 #77

"get rid of the guns and ... ammunition, and gun violence goes away"? Ever hear of Timothy McVeigh? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #10

Thank you. There are a few of us that favor actual solutions over impossible and ineffective Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #37

Gee, that's a TON of help to the dead. Zoeisright Jul 2012 #62

Nothing can help the dead except possibly to reduce the numbers that will follow them. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #64

Really? atreides1 Jul 2012 #14

I believe that's called 'projection'. Edweird Jul 2012 #11

Of course it does. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2012 #15

Spot on bongbong Jul 2012 #61

We are a nation of terrified little children. sadbear Jul 2012 #16

fear and loathing seem to drive a lot of the gun control conversation on both sides arely staircase Jul 2012 #22

Any post saying it wants to discuss gun control that starts out: shadowrider Jul 2012 #30

i dont have a team arely staircase Jul 2012 #51

one of my gun-crazy friends is afraid to go to the grocery without his gun Lex Jul 2012 #26

He has a point shadowrider Jul 2012 #32

No, he's scared. He is a fearful person. It's sad Lex Jul 2012 #34

Nope, irrationally fearful of the unlikely, as are you, apparently. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #39

Unlikely only needs to happen once. As you can't guarantee my personal safety shadowrider Jul 2012 #40

I can only give you the exact same guarantee that all of us have. We are going to die. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #58

Exactly. I still go hiking even though a tree could potentially fall Lex Jul 2012 #41

Romney’s Church and gun control vanlandingham Jul 2012 #36

Name of site? Link to site? Control-Z Jul 2012 #45

Name of site vanlandingham Jul 2012 #72

Actually, the opposite is true. mmonk Jul 2012 #43

fear is what drives people to gun ownership. Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #48

And mass murder WITH GUNS drives the fear. longship Jul 2012 #49

The NRA has been a successful corporate lobbying group -- some of their shills are in this thread villager Jul 2012 #76