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Lee-Lee

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25. Honestly, here is the effect I have seen first hand
Fri Mar 9, 2018, 09:34 AM
Mar 2018

I don’t think it promotes violence in people not predisposed to it.

I do, however, think that it promotes a very unhealthy attitude about firearms and a very out of touch with reality understanding of them and attitude about them.

In the past most people got their exposure to firearms at an early age at home, at summer camp, even in schools. Tharp learned safety rules, they saw what firearms realistically are. They developed a healthy respect for them. They were just another part of life in the USA.

But in the same period where this safe, responsible introduction to firearms has dinisnsihed the rise of videos game and movies that more and more protray unrealis and unhealthy images of what firearms are have replaced that.

So now, for most youth, all the know about guns is what they have learned in video games.

I see it first hand when I teach firearms safety to 13-25 year olds. The ones who had someone introduce them to firearms responsibility are generally safe and have realistic ideas. The ones who only know video games tend to handle firearms in a much less safe and more flippant manner, as if they are just toys and anything they do isn’t actually harmful- just like it isn’t in the games where you just hit a reset button. They seem awed by large guns based on nothing but size, they think you don’t have to aim. They want to do the usafe crap the see in movies and on games like turn a pistol sideways or shoot two at once. They will argue with me about what a firearm can do or what it’s specs are based on what it can do in the video game, because they assume it’s realistic.

For those who get it, if I hear a student say “Deagle” I know they are going to take extra effort.

This hasn’t just affected the attitudes of people who are already predisposed to violence or sociopathing behavior. It’s also affected the attitude of people who never handle a gun but want gun control and are basing much of their ideas on what moves and games have shown them since they lack any knowledge that is based on actual experience or training.

A good analogy is to imagine if almost all our teens got all of their sex education only from watching hardcore porn, with nobody teaching them about safe sex, consent, etc. How messed up with their knowledge of sex be and what should result from that?

Especially in the USA, since other countries don't have violent video games. nt greyl Mar 2018 #1
Yes indeed. Eko Mar 2018 #2
Actually Spouting1horn Mar 2018 #35
He spent hours a day breathing oxygen also... EX500rider Mar 2018 #44
Killing murderous Nazis and hungry invading monsters teaches us to... TreasonousBastard Mar 2018 #3
Wouldnt it teach us Eko Mar 2018 #6
In Japan it does, but we are told that here it doesn't... TreasonousBastard Mar 2018 #13
The difference is far larger if you are talking just about gun crime deaths Exotica Mar 2018 #14
Even without guns the US homicide rate is larger then Japans. EX500rider Mar 2018 #45
Violence and conflict as entertainment is THE problem. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #4
Sure, because other countries that have the same video games Eko Mar 2018 #5
I suspect you're missing my context. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #10
Again, you are totally wrong obamanut2012 Mar 2018 #17
I didn't join DU to... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #19
Peer reviewed studies outweigh your opinion. Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2018 #20
Japan has all those same video games, plus have had a far longer history of violent porn mythology Mar 2018 #21
And South Korea has some incredibly violent films that get heavily cut for here Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #24
+1 NCTraveler Mar 2018 #34
NC, I really miss those good 'ole days when.... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #37
Totally agree. CanSocDem Mar 2018 #23
Thank you. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #33
Maybe not. Eko Mar 2018 #43
Or, Eko Mar 2018 #7
Guns aren't an accessory to anything, they're facilitators and instigators. greyl Mar 2018 #8
Get rid of movies like Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, Eko Mar 2018 #9
Sounds like HBO's upcoming Fahrenheit 451 movie is gonna be timely Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #15
Eko, I'm very sorry you misunderstood my intent. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #39
100% wrong -- prove it obamanut2012 Mar 2018 #16
I think it contributes Locrian Mar 2018 #18
Thanks - good points. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2018 #22
thanks Locrian Mar 2018 #42
My grandkids and I agree that they're just games... dchill Mar 2018 #28
The more accurate response to the proposition is misanthrope Mar 2018 #11
Why is Bazooka Joe getting a pass ? nocalflea Mar 2018 #12
Garfield encouraged a generation of laziness Blue_Adept Mar 2018 #26
Honestly, here is the effect I have seen first hand Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #25
"Deagle": Short for "Desert Eagle," a flashy, large-caliber pistol. Paladin Mar 2018 #29
And its a term that came from a video game Lee-Lee Mar 2018 #36
Ah, yes. Those awful, awful, awful video games. Paladin Mar 2018 #40
lol, you should keep a Desert Eagle around and let them break their wrist with it.. EX500rider Mar 2018 #46
THERE'S your meme! dchill Mar 2018 #27
Even the GOP doesn't believe that, but the NRA owns them Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #30
"thoughts and prayers" to the victims of Grand Theft Auto Va Lefty Mar 2018 #31
Especially in Australia, UK, Sweden... RainCaster Mar 2018 #32
Even if video games were linked to violence... MicaelS Mar 2018 #38
Also..... workinclasszero Mar 2018 #41
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