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373. Not a member in name only as he always caucuses with the dems

Fri Apr 6, 2018, 11:24 PM

Apr 2018

I always find very petty comments demeaning Bernie Sanders frivolous. Why bother making them? It's like commenting on someone's hair.
I saw Obama as a man first and primarily of good character with integrity and very inspirational...oh and by the way...he also happened to be black. That's how much him being black influenced me concerning anything about him. I feel sorry for those who get stuck on on a person's features. Bernie is a good man who has done more for the democratic party than most people who call themselves democrats. I hope we don't start hearing "it's a shame we don't have Hillary to beat up on anymore", or slandering her comments etc. It's divisive and petty. These are progressive people who are for the people and side with the democratic party platform. And I welcome them no matter what they call themselves because the opposition belong in the shop of horrors as a cult of fascist tyranny.

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An explanation of why Sanders' comments about Obama were offensive to many African Americans [View all] EffieBlack Apr 2018 OP

Hear, Hear! smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #1

The more you get to know someone... paleotn Apr 2018 #28

And recognize the significance of the event, the day, and the moment.... George II Apr 2018 #53

My Problem With Bernie DownriverDem Apr 2018 #108

That told me a lot about him too. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #339

It is my opinion that Sen. Sanders said exactly what he meant to say. He does not like President Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #362

So Bernie Hates Democrats PaulX2 Apr 2018 #389

He always has if you look at what he says...yes he caucuses with us but over the years he has made Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #391

Better Wall Street here with all the good jobs than in China. Our pension is invested in a 401k. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #420

Not a member in name only as he always caucuses with the dems onit2day Apr 2018 #373

I agree wholeheartedly.. whathehell Apr 2018 #394

A lot of good people voted for Bernie in the primaries. Blue_true Apr 2018 #169

I briefly considered him as well... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #341

I went to a BS heaven05 Apr 2018 #408

From what I've heard, your experience is not unique. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #418

You should have come to Memphis GaryCnf Apr 2018 #427

Forget Bernie DownriverDem Apr 2018 #410

I must admit Im at a loss as to why G_j Apr 2018 #2

I love that man, thanks for the reminder (btw, he's on AM Joy frequently) George II Apr 2018 #26

Love me some Dr Reverend Barber myself. BTW, I think he got ordained as Bishop last year. iluvtennis Apr 2018 #41

I think Rev. Barber gets his due DFW Apr 2018 #51

Not my experience, G_j Apr 2018 #63

Interesting you should post a link to the Nation DFW Apr 2018 #71

Ive heard many great people speak over the years G_j Apr 2018 #367

Yes, were HE a Senator, WOW! Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #52

Excellent explanation! Lars39 Apr 2018 #3

++++ Agree iluvtennis Apr 2018 #39

Thank you for this post. I hope those who need to hear this listen and try to understand! bobbieinok Apr 2018 #4

Thank you, EffieBlack. You have truly opened my eyes and you are right. hedda_foil Apr 2018 #5

Thank you, hedda and Effie, saidsimplesimon Apr 2018 #9

Thank you!!!! nt jrthin Apr 2018 #6

K&R betsuni Apr 2018 #7

Truly excellent post n/t DonaldsRump Apr 2018 #8

One of the best posts I've ever read at DU.. SidDithers Apr 2018 #10

Kick dalton99a Apr 2018 #11

You spoke for me SallyHemmings Apr 2018 #12

"He must do a better job of listening both BEFORE AND AFTER he speaks." NurseJackie Apr 2018 #13

Very well said dsc Apr 2018 #14

K & R! n/t billh58 Apr 2018 #15

A white guy here rock Apr 2018 #16

I once read something that applies here - haele Apr 2018 #17

I get what you are saying, but I think you did not get what Sanders was saying karynnj Apr 2018 #18

I don't think you got what I was saying at all EffieBlack Apr 2018 #25

This is a discussion board and even the OP can not say what is irrelevant karynnj Apr 2018 #57

I can tell you what I think is relevant or not relevant to what I wrote EffieBlack Apr 2018 #64

Rather patronizing on your part karynnj Apr 2018 #88

Your patience and attitude is amazing. I would not be so patient and reasonable. LiberalLovinLug Apr 2018 #195

Sorry, I suggest you give it up roscoeroscoe Apr 2018 #196

I suggest all the people who immediately look for reasons to attack either Clinton karynnj Apr 2018 #268

I think its Sanders who originated this divisiveness by wrongly saying Dems are losing- he is bettyellen Apr 2018 #300

Thats a really good point. I hope it doesnt get lost in the thread. nt fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #385

Your patience and attitude is amazing. I would not be so patient and reasonable. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #131

Effie's context was very consistent. Blue_true Apr 2018 #181

You did impute what you thought Sanders said unc70 Apr 2018 #65

I didn't say that everyone must have shared my experience EffieBlack Apr 2018 #73

Does your experience make it impossible to understand Sanders? unc70 Apr 2018 #89

You imply your interpretation of Sanders' remarks are without error LanternWaste Apr 2018 #189

This! happy feet Apr 2018 #251

Sanders the New DEAL Lisa Ann Lib Apr 2018 #220

Then maybe he could actually JOIN the party he's trying to bring back to its roots? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #227

He has said he would join zentrum Apr 2018 #295

Principled? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #297

Agreed pandr32 Apr 2018 #332

VT has no mechanism by which to register as a party member, thesquanderer Apr 2018 #401

He is not to the left of democrats Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #244

We are to the left of him when it comes to guns and immigration. KitSileya Apr 2018 #269

Dedicated to Democrats! True Blue American Apr 2018 #292

Guess Why That Is DownriverDem Apr 2018 #411

Sanders view of TPP bordered on gibberish and I can prove it grantcart Apr 2018 #326

+1. NT Adrahil Apr 2018 #330

I agree completely and enjoyed reading your post karynnj Apr 2018 #334

+2. N/T Tarheel_Dem Apr 2018 #335

Kick for reality! mcar Apr 2018 #336

THANK YOU! President Obama was right. betsuni Apr 2018 #368

Thank you, grant, for this detailed Cha Apr 2018 #371

Great post. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2018 #453

I don't think you get that was the wrong fucking event to go there with those comments nini Apr 2018 #359

Bernie has no business criticizing obama or Democratic party given us is not a democrat onetexan Apr 2018 #392

Go Away Bernie DownriverDem Apr 2018 #412

Spot on. brush Apr 2018 #19

The headline of all of the coverage of Sanders appearance is "Sanders calls Dems a failure" EffieBlack Apr 2018 #40

"He allowed the entire point of the day to be hijacked" The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #231

Id love to see a transcript... druidity33 Apr 2018 #322

You can watch the video and there are transcripts posted. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #365

I had to chuckle at some folks (in that long-long thread) who... NurseJackie Apr 2018 #20

It blows my mind.... Adrahil Apr 2018 #74

I think he see a distinction between the Democratic Party machinery and Obama elias7 Apr 2018 #397

Uhm, the person in question has constantly attacked the party and it's leaders Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #132

Only two possibilities, deliberate gaslighting, or their obsessive devotion to Sanders has blinded stevenleser Apr 2018 #255

I just disagree with you elias7 Apr 2018 #398

Nope there are no other possibilities regarding the OPs point(s) stevenleser Apr 2018 #402

I think both sides really dont get each other elias7 Apr 2018 #399

Aww. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #404

Your attitude towards me is exactly the problem elias7 Apr 2018 #421

Yes there is. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #428

We get the other side perfectly well. Its so superficial we couldnt miss it. stevenleser Apr 2018 #405

I agree with everything the OP said elias7 Apr 2018 #422

You have every right to your opinion and I would never tell you your opinion on something like this EffieBlack Apr 2018 #423

Thank you for your response elias7 Apr 2018 #437

I think some of the responses you're talking about were responding to you and others EffieBlack Apr 2018 #438

Thank you... elias7 Apr 2018 #439

We have found common ground! EffieBlack Apr 2018 #440

Here we go again. NurseJackie Apr 2018 #426

... betsuni Apr 2018 #413

Paternalism, dismissal.... LexVegas Apr 2018 #21

Spot on! Understood! Appreciated! And very well said. Ninga Apr 2018 #22

Thank you for taking the time Wheezy Apr 2018 #23

Well I'm African American kytngirl Apr 2018 #24

I don't think you're speaking for all African Americans leftstreet Apr 2018 #27

I didn't say I was speaking for all African Americans - in fact I explicitly said otherwise EffieBlack Apr 2018 #32

Ah leftstreet Apr 2018 #38

You missed my point EffieBlack Apr 2018 #47

Your point as you explain it, seems to be defending how you HEARD it. And that is what is important LiberalLovinLug Apr 2018 #234

I heard what Sanders said and agree with happy feet Apr 2018 #263

But can you at least understand that what you heard was not what he meant? LiberalLovinLug Apr 2018 #266

My post wasn't about what Bernie may or may not have "meant"- it was about what he SAID and how it EffieBlack Apr 2018 #279

But what you perceived he meant is vitally important to your position! LiberalLovinLug Apr 2018 #310

That's fine EffieBlack Apr 2018 #445

Why dont you try harder to understand the points spooky3 Apr 2018 #48

Almost as if I could have bet you $1000 that would happen...and given 5-1 odds Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #139

"In any case, Sanders said Obama was brilliant and charismatic" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #49

"but, beyond that reality" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What about that is not being understood ?! uponit7771 Apr 2018 #113

It's EASY to see the fault in that, if you don't have Bernie-shaped glasses over your eyes. pnwmom Apr 2018 #225

'Bernie shaped glasses' melman Apr 2018 #265

Hmmmm... fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #386

I agree. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #299

Whoa, talk about tone-deaf! Sounds like the audience took this as another Sanders rally lunamagica Apr 2018 #144

Pretty interesting EffieBlack Apr 2018 #160

It is so incredibly disrespectful. There's no doubt that the only reason they were there was to see lunamagica Apr 2018 #182

Did Bernie eve mention DR King? nt Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #246

As far as I know, he did not lunamagica Apr 2018 #247

Shameful! Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #248

from your own link scipan Apr 2018 #284

Please note I didn't say he never mentioned Dr. King at all - I said he HARDLY mentioned him EffieBlack Apr 2018 #286

She specifically said volstork Apr 2018 #42

True, she said 'many' n/t leftstreet Apr 2018 #43

She is probably only speaking for about 98% of them, so naturally THAT is what Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #142

Isn't it amazing how the people that were actually there don't count? melman Apr 2018 #264

What do you think of this alternate perspective... thesquanderer Apr 2018 #29

I think it is much more valid unc70 Apr 2018 #66

How is one person's perspective based on their experience any more valid than anyone else's? EffieBlack Apr 2018 #76

Maybe by following your example unc70 Apr 2018 #91

You LITERALLY said Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #147

Thank you. KPN Apr 2018 #145

all - obama, sanders, and clinton, as leaders, have continued the biggest political mistake in histo certainot Apr 2018 #158

Racist, nationalist, and fake populist talk radio and TV bettyellen Apr 2018 #217

We dont ignore it. What would you like us to do about it? stevenleser Apr 2018 #424

liberals have been ignoring it for 30 years. to fix it digitize talk radio - so it can be read. certainot Apr 2018 #435

What Sanders said SCVDem Apr 2018 #30

Did you get that from an article, or post here, or RandomAccess Apr 2018 #276

I heard the whole thing EffieBlack Apr 2018 #285

I didn't ask you, Effie RandomAccess Apr 2018 #298

Sanders will need to attract new voters from somewhere to win the nomination. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #303

Why so snarky? Is it really necessary to be so dismissive? George II Apr 2018 #337

+1 fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #380

Thank you. The Bernie Rage Glasses are real... TCJ70 Apr 2018 #407

Its hilarious that you and several others dont get it. stevenleser Apr 2018 #414

Boom. Maven Apr 2018 #31

Perfect beyond perfect and put to words far more eloquently than I ever could have. You may not Afromania Apr 2018 #33

I will never forget this night: George II Apr 2018 #34

Yeah, that day, that accomplishment fucked up a whole lot of people. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #149

Pretty sure Bernie Sanders would agree with you on both. KPN Apr 2018 #154

Never will we have a better Leader. True Blue American Apr 2018 #176

President Obama has been the best President of my lifetime. Blue_true Apr 2018 #187

I'm pissed at what he said, and I was a Bernie supporter geardaddy Apr 2018 #35

OMG Effie I couldn't have explained it better myself BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #36

Thanks EffieBlack Apr 2018 #61

Being a minority BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #79

The word is "some" GaryCnf Apr 2018 #37

"my 4 decades plus living and working every day in impacted urban communities" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #60

And thank God True Blue American Apr 2018 #68

"Community Organizing" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #80

Yes, the tactics have changed.:) True Blue American Apr 2018 #94

Would love to see Espy get elected. BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #100

Send in AG Holder True Blue American Apr 2018 #133

And Holder's wife BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #155

Plus Mrs. Obama! True Blue American Apr 2018 #159

Well that's a given! BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #168

Of course True Blue American Apr 2018 #172

The spontaneity of that BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #175

Can you post that video? True Blue American Apr 2018 #178

Here ya go. BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #194

A True Leader True Blue American Apr 2018 #202

It literally BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #205

Same,every time I listen to it. True Blue American Apr 2018 #230

Oooooh, privilege speaks GaryCnf Apr 2018 #81

This is an anonymous internet board BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #104

That's certainly your privilege GaryCnf Apr 2018 #106

"Privilege" has nothing to do with it. BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #110

Your "spidey sense" is dead on. nt LexVegas Apr 2018 #119

It is indeed Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #153

Oh look, you have a cheering section GaryCnf Apr 2018 #209

Why are you concerned? BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #224

May I be honest for a moment? GaryCnf Apr 2018 #270

I have been on DU for 10 years BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #277

That's Garbage GaryCnf Apr 2018 #301

"for all we gave up, tell me what we got in return." BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #315

Okay, now that is just f'ing beautiful GaryCnf Apr 2018 #320

+1. Spidey sense is an invaluable asset when confronting anonymous internet denizens, and I think.. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2018 #243

If you suspect him of not being black, scipan Apr 2018 #302

I think your insistance on defining me BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #318

So, you assume that any black person who criticized Sanders in the past must have an ulterior motive EffieBlack Apr 2018 #69

If that was it GaryCnf Apr 2018 #93

I did too, I can read ... "but" did NOT belong in the statement that Sanders made ... uponit7771 Apr 2018 #116

Now that I can agree with GaryCnf Apr 2018 #177

Correct, that was the best possible spin. Which still indicates he doesn't belong on the national stevenleser Apr 2018 #256

That's your mistake.. not taking into account Cha Apr 2018 #356

Thank you, EffieBlack! spicysista Apr 2018 #44

Amen. sheshe2 Apr 2018 #45

What a great, great post - thank you. people Apr 2018 #46

They are either racist, indifferent to his racism, which is racist, or they just Doodley Apr 2018 #321

I appreciate your well thought out post.. disillusioned73 Apr 2018 #50

Yes. YES. K&R. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2018 #54

Thank you,Effie Black True Blue American Apr 2018 #62

Outstanding! Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #55

Obama was a brilliant man and President who took office during a tumultuous time in American history Pepsidog Apr 2018 #56

Phenomenal post, Effie! Nt Anon-C Apr 2018 #58

Curious how bernie ended up at that event when there are many many far greater than him Wwcd Apr 2018 #59

Ignoring everything after the but is a convenient way to ignore the rest of what was said TCJ70 Apr 2018 #67

So how is bernie's campaign 2020 going so far? Wwcd Apr 2018 #83

Again, you're explaining what he "meant" and ignoring how it was heard by other people who may see EffieBlack Apr 2018 #92

An interpretation isnt valid if you have to see words that arent there TCJ70 Apr 2018 #99

You mean like interpreting the rest of the comment as "reinforcing the compliment to President Obama EffieBlack Apr 2018 #107

A question then... TCJ70 Apr 2018 #114

Yes, he probably would have been criticized for not mention the first black president at an event EffieBlack Apr 2018 #129

It's amazing to me that... TCJ70 Apr 2018 #134

Yes, I guess it is amazing to you EffieBlack Apr 2018 #140

re: "mentioning nothing about his accomplishments, his legacy" etc. thesquanderer Apr 2018 #309

He didn't answer the question, either. He just babbled on for 4 minutess EffieBlack Apr 2018 #311

Well, GOTV is a strategy, right? thesquanderer Apr 2018 #331

These aren't the droids you're looking for IronLionZion Apr 2018 #109

Agreed. n/t TCJ70 Apr 2018 #117

BINGO !!! THAT criticism of the DNC wasn't even needed at that event in context to the uponit7771 Apr 2018 #120

Sorry but the "But" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #98

If you remove everything before the but... TCJ70 Apr 2018 #103

So now you have re-manufactured the statement BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #105

You said "the "But"completely wipes out what came before." TCJ70 Apr 2018 #112

By eliminating, literally everything before the "but" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #126

Eliminating any mention of the first African American president at an MLK commemoration event... TCJ70 Apr 2018 #143

He can mention the name of the first AA POTUS but not in the unfair negative context uponit7771 Apr 2018 #152

So then BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #193

.... and not needed in that setting !!! The CEO of GM is great but GM sucks is not the type uponit7771 Apr 2018 #125

RIGHT !!! Damn, they act like we can't read ... But means in contrast to which either uponit7771 Apr 2018 #122

You notice that Angus King is an (I) BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #137

+1, every time we turn around something negative about the DNC comes out of Sanders mouF uponit7771 Apr 2018 #146

Exactly. BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #167

So Sanders and every I should follow KPN Apr 2018 #185

That's not what I wrote BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #204

Well, we disagree. I don't see Sanders as KPN Apr 2018 #213

"He's accomplished a lot in educating people about economic inequities over the past 30 years" BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #222

Right. It's been a long struggle. At the KPN Apr 2018 #250

The problem is this BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #262

+1 betsuni Apr 2018 #387

That's odd. TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #377

I didn't say anything even closely approximating Bernie being the only person KPN Apr 2018 #432

"Who else has been getting up to 20,000 people to show up to hear him/her speak?" Trump EffieBlack Apr 2018 #434

Oh brother. OK, you dislike Bernie. I get it. KPN Apr 2018 #436

There are many reasons for the losses and have nothing to do with Democrats failing. honest.abe Apr 2018 #101

The "But" was not needed in the statement at all !!! uponit7771 Apr 2018 #118

So what does "that reality" refer to in the statement? n/t TCJ70 Apr 2018 #124

Something negative about the DNC that Obama was leader of which wasn't needed uponit7771 Apr 2018 #127

Thank you. KPN Apr 2018 #171

Thank you Effieblack!...No lies were told.. HipChick Apr 2018 #70

Beautiful honest.abe Apr 2018 #72

K and R BadgerMom Apr 2018 #75

So well said! mcar Apr 2018 #77

Sanders comments were also offensive to non-African American supports of Pres. Obama Gothmog Apr 2018 #78

Wrong time,wrong place. True Blue American Apr 2018 #96

***WINNER*** I did not look at your post before posting multiple times his comment at best uponit7771 Apr 2018 #130

Plus GM True Blue American Apr 2018 #150

Two standing ovations, beg to differ! HenryWallace Apr 2018 #148

I am discussing what True Blue American Apr 2018 #156

Wait a minute HenryWallace Apr 2018 #203

Setting aside the fact that Dr. King was likely a Republican ... EffieBlack Apr 2018 #211

Read the transcript, everyone on the dais failed to explicitly praise Dr. King. HenryWallace Apr 2018 #307

The discussion isn't about his speech or tweets "the day before." EffieBlack Apr 2018 #312

May I thank you for seeing the small picture! HenryWallace Apr 2018 #325

The criticism of Sanders here from DU blacks is in context of Sanders consummate bashing of the uponit7771 Apr 2018 #157

Amen! True Blue American Apr 2018 #163

Wow.... HenryWallace Apr 2018 #206

Gerrymandering and voter suppression had NOTHING to do with losses of seats?!!!? uponit7771 Apr 2018 #278

They have everything to do with this last few elections! True Blue American Apr 2018 #294

Standing ovations by an audience that was 98% white and filled with Sanders supporters EffieBlack Apr 2018 #166

And you wrote such a beatiful piece. HenryWallace Apr 2018 #214

Here's my source EffieBlack Apr 2018 #216

Here is mine HenryWallace Apr 2018 #229

I'll go with the bylined, published news account instead of a couple of tweets from HootHootBern & EffieBlack Apr 2018 #232

HootHootBerns? sheshe2 Apr 2018 #333

I know, right? LOL SunSeeker Apr 2018 #343

What a hoot! sheshe2 Apr 2018 #351

LOL SunSeeker Apr 2018 #360

Here is a tweet with a pic from the rear of the auditorium BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #249

Two standing ovations by whie people wearing #feelthebern t shirts? lunamagica Apr 2018 #190

Let me guess, you don't trust eye withneses? HenryWallace Apr 2018 #219

Because a random tweet from TerriPA83580581 EffieBlack Apr 2018 #228

Here is a second random tweets HenryWallace Apr 2018 #305

Eyewitnesses are famously unreliable lunamagica Apr 2018 #237

Let take a look at the video shall we. HenryWallace Apr 2018 #306

What is this video supposed to prove? lunamagica Apr 2018 #308

Thank You. Mister Ed Apr 2018 #82

Well stated. Skidmore Apr 2018 #84

Well said! HenryWallace Apr 2018 #85

Thanks for this, Effie NastyRiffraff Apr 2018 #86

This is beautiful. LisaM Apr 2018 #87

Wonderful, clear explanation pandr32 Apr 2018 #90

Thank you! Richluu Apr 2018 #95

Everybody will interpet anything like this through their own filter. The Mouth Apr 2018 #97

President Donald Trump, the white Don King.... Such a loaded criticism packed into so few words zaj Apr 2018 #102

Pretty much nails it though, doesnt it!! nt 7962 Apr 2018 #128

You speak for this white woman, Effie. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2018 #111

The Democratic losses are not down to the President either treestar Apr 2018 #115

Obama was responsible for DWS staying in her post was he not? Kentonio Apr 2018 #393

I suppose. But people tend to oversimplify treestar Apr 2018 #416

WOW!!! What an articulate thought provoking OP. That double standard is a manifestation of still_one Apr 2018 #121

Thank you for this synopsis, it really helps with the larger context. lark Apr 2018 #123

Wow, Effie, this was just wonderful...thoughtful, brilliant explanation lunamagica Apr 2018 #135

Damn Skippy! MrScorpio Apr 2018 #136

Thanks, EffieBlack your insightful OP is greatly appreciated. oasis Apr 2018 #138

BRILLIANT! Huge K&R, w/gratitude. n/t OneGrassRoot Apr 2018 #141

Let the 2020 Primary Begin! Billy Jingo Apr 2018 #151

How sad that such a heartfelt, thoughtful respectful explanation lunamagica Apr 2018 #164

That was a thoughtful response Billy Jingo Apr 2018 #174

And you are white, right? Why don't you make an effort to see his comments lunamagica Apr 2018 #186

I made the effort Billy Jingo Apr 2018 #218

A thoughtful and inclusive explanation of your position in regards to Senator Sanders... Tom Rinaldo Apr 2018 #161

Thanks for taking time to read and think about my OP and for taking time to respond so thoughtfully EffieBlack Apr 2018 #184

I find all of your added thoughts here to be constructive Tom Rinaldo Apr 2018 #188

Those who want to understand will, those who still can't let go of their historical grooming won't Civic Justice Apr 2018 #357

Excellent post Blue_true Apr 2018 #162

Dellums is still out there BumRushDaShow Apr 2018 #272

Thank you! This is a really important reminder. EffieBlack Apr 2018 #275

Once again Plucketeer Apr 2018 #165

um ... EffieBlack Apr 2018 #170

yup! Plucketeer Apr 2018 #179

Those determined to employ the Bernie filter BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #192

Yup. ismnotwasm Apr 2018 #200

+1 LOL fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #383

You proved how easy it is to reply with a standard stump speech instead of on point to the OP stevenleser Apr 2018 #258

I'm going to have my newly qualified household voters, read this BoneyardDem Apr 2018 #173

It's all about Bernie. He would have said the same thing if we had a white Democrat in the White Doodley Apr 2018 #180

As a white woman WhiteTara Apr 2018 #183

This is what I have seen True Blue American Apr 2018 #198

I'd love to see what the Tad Davine connection WhiteTara Apr 2018 #221

Me too. Even google tells that story. Imagine what Mueller has!!. Wwcd Apr 2018 #238

I'm hoping WhiteTara Apr 2018 #240

For Mueller to even name bernie along with Trump, he's got a lot. Wwcd Apr 2018 #245

Thank you! It's so helpful to have a clear explanation of how things cry baby Apr 2018 #191

You will never hear me use that curse word (but) in any sentence about Barack Obama, EffieBlack! Cracklin Charlie Apr 2018 #197

Obama was the best president in my lifetime TNLib Apr 2018 #199

Thank you! That makes perfect sense and jibes with what I know. nolabear Apr 2018 #201

I am very proud of Obama but I feel the reaction to Bernie is a bit overblown. lancelyons Apr 2018 #207

Talking "highly" of Dr. King does not cancel out what sounds to many like criticism of Obama EffieBlack Apr 2018 #215

Not in the context of his statements about Obama, even saying Obama should be primaired. uponit7771 Apr 2018 #282

While I understand your argument, and I appreciate the unique challenges Obama had as our first JCanete Apr 2018 #208

This has nothing to do with an assumption that Obama is "infallible" EffieBlack Apr 2018 #226

It is time for all of us to quit True Blue American Apr 2018 #236

I understand your point and where you're coming from EffieBlack Apr 2018 #253

Maybe my feelings True Blue American Apr 2018 #257

Effie, good points True Blue American Apr 2018 #289

This isn't about the last election. It's about the next one EffieBlack Apr 2018 #314

If that is the case True Blue American Apr 2018 #319

That was a truly great post and response Gothmog Apr 2018 #327

I think all of that would have been nice...I have still not seen this in full because I can't find JCanete Apr 2018 #352

Sanders comments about President Obama were offensive to this white woman. MLAA Apr 2018 #210

He credited all of Obama's accomplishments to "charisma" Wwcd Apr 2018 #239

+1, It's some shit I'd expect conservatives to say uponit7771 Apr 2018 #280

k&r DesertRat Apr 2018 #212

Bravo, EffieB!! You have opened a few minds today, and I hank you greatly for it. bettyellen Apr 2018 #223

Thank you cp Apr 2018 #233

kick ailsagirl Apr 2018 #235

K & R Wwcd Apr 2018 #241

Thanks for your lovely post. BlueMTexpat Apr 2018 #242

And Obama was sabotaged the whole time he was president by applegrove Apr 2018 #252

Here is a striking quote from a digital friend and former DUer The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #254

Yep, because the same folks who are criticizing the OP, ran off a lot of the AA members. stevenleser Apr 2018 #260

well, Got a message to relay Stevenleser The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #273

+1,000,000 George II Apr 2018 #288

LOL Gothmog Apr 2018 #323

+1 betsuni Apr 2018 #369

Boom! sheshe2 Apr 2018 #382

I loved that forum even though I am not African American Gothmog Apr 2018 #324

There's a reason that particular person isn't here anymore melman Apr 2018 #340

There is a reason people don't pretend to know what is in other people's minds. stevenleser Apr 2018 #347

Whatever that means melman Apr 2018 #354

Post removed Post removed Apr 2018 #370

+1,000,000 George II Apr 2018 #374

This is complete nonsense melman Apr 2018 #375

I see you Melman. The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #378

Sure thing melman Apr 2018 #379

Have a nice day Mel The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #381

I thought you wanted me to have a nice night melman Apr 2018 #384

This African American thinks your post is excellent, and definitely speaks for me. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2018 #259

It appears to me that when Bernie was marching to protest civil rights abuses TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #261

Thank you for the perspectives and your presentation of them. TryLogic Apr 2018 #267

I care as much about what Sanders thinks of Obama as... NNadir Apr 2018 #271

And another President that True Blue American Apr 2018 #293

And he did it on the 50th Anniversary of Dr. King's murder wryter2000 Apr 2018 #274

Great post malaise Apr 2018 #281

Don't know if mentioned too many comments on this OP to sift through, but the root had a blog on lunasun Apr 2018 #283

A good read, thanks mcar Apr 2018 #287

This is great. I hope plenty of people read it. EffieBlack Apr 2018 #290

Thank you for your zentrum Apr 2018 #291

K&R Scurrilous Apr 2018 #296

k+r Blue_Tires Apr 2018 #304

+++100 nt heaven05 Apr 2018 #313

Are white people not allowed to level any criticism at a black man? Doodley Apr 2018 #316

I don't believe you are actually as obtuse as that post makes you seem. stevenleser Apr 2018 #350

Very offensive of you. Try again. Doodley Apr 2018 #449

Nope, I graded your post "obtuse" but that is because your post earned the grade. stevenleser Apr 2018 #451

You don't know anything about me. Doodley Apr 2018 #452

My Thoughts on Your Post kooth Apr 2018 #317

Excellent!!!! and The inserted Video of Rev. Dr. William J. Barber Sums it up Civic Justice Apr 2018 #328

Thank you Progressive dog Apr 2018 #329

I wonder how President Obama reacted hell674 Apr 2018 #338

How can at this point 8488 claimed Democrats read this, and it has only 205 DU votes Civic Justice Apr 2018 #342

I posted how the Dems won local races in my Repub area. No interest. Honeycombe8 Apr 2018 #349

A gazillion threads & comments and I HAVE YET TO READ ANY verbatim quotes or context --Until I do, Kashkakat v.2.0 Apr 2018 #344

Take what with a grain of salt? How someone tells you certain words made them feel? stevenleser Apr 2018 #348

I mean if person A makes a statement, and person B paraphrases it and doesnt give an exact quote or Kashkakat v.2.0 Apr 2018 #372

That is beautiful, Effie.. Thank you Cha Apr 2018 #345

Thank you, EffieBlack. SunSeeker Apr 2018 #346

This is one of the most well-written posts I have EVER read on DU. Beartracks Apr 2018 #353

I might add that President/Senator Obama had the brains MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #355

Let's see...the Democratic Party is piling up the wins across the country BlueWI Apr 2018 #358

+ ∞. Excellent post. Also, ecstatic Apr 2018 #361

Great post...rec. I am only sorry that in 2018 such a post still needs to be written. Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #363

Thank you. we can do it Apr 2018 #364

Very well said, thanks for taking the time to.post it. Ninsianna Apr 2018 #366

Not taking back my rec, and I absolutely see your point. Susan Calvin Apr 2018 #376

I tried to stay away from this thread. I knew it would make me angry. grantcart Apr 2018 #388

+1000000000000 betsuni Apr 2018 #390

Excellent! R B Garr Apr 2018 #417

Very informative post mcar Apr 2018 #443

Sanders eliminated any chance, duforsure Apr 2018 #395

Falling prey to manipulation--again Lytex59 Apr 2018 #396

Backhanded criticism of the first black President at an MLK day speech stevenleser Apr 2018 #406

Except I saw Sanders in the video of the event. R B Garr Apr 2018 #415

What an eloquent and thought-provoking post. n/t Chemisse Apr 2018 #400

Brilliant! bronxiteforever Apr 2018 #403

What a beautiful post, Effie. R B Garr Apr 2018 #409

I learned from the primaries that I should never tell anyone to not be offended by Bernie. aikoaiko Apr 2018 #419

Thanks for the thoughtful post EffieBlack Apr 2018 #425

Wow GaryCnf Apr 2018 #429

Sorry, I didn't mean to say that minorities only want to hear better rhetoric.. aikoaiko Apr 2018 #430

Please make this post its own OP Gothmog Apr 2018 #442

Effie, you move me to tears mcar Apr 2018 #444

That's so sweet - thank you! EffieBlack Apr 2018 #447

I think you should make this an OP too. betsuni Apr 2018 #446

Done! EffieBlack Apr 2018 #448

Effie, I so love reading your stuff and this does not disappoint all american girl Apr 2018 #431

Good post, Effie, but if possible appreciate Sanders for Hortensis Apr 2018 #433

I don't have a problem with him having a different view. My problem is his refusal to listen to EffieBlack Apr 2018 #441

Yes! He IS exactly like that. Hortensis Apr 2018 #450