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muriel_volestrangler

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141. It's a bad article too, which has suffered from being an indirect report
Mon May 7, 2018, 08:12 AM
May 2018

The original report was in the Times Educational Supplement, which said "Schools say they have had to install digital clocks in their exam halls". The point being about the public exams that students sit from about age 16 onwards (which are timed, and I presume no phones are allowed in). That was picked up by the British Daily Telegraph and the BBC, which were also clear that this was about the clocks placed in the exam halls.

But the AJC, perhaps not used to the typical way public exams are taken in the UK (at desks set out in the school hall or similar large area, normally) has changed that to "in the classroom", though when they say what was tweeted, it does say "exam hall". The point is that analogue clocks have already disappeared from so many places that, when it's time to give the students a clock for their exams (and many will not have a watch these days, and you're not allowing them their phones), the analogue clock may be something they haven't actually used in 10 years, and then only in a maths class when they were 6.

If only there was a place kids could go to be schooled in such skills. n/t PoliticAverse May 2018 #1
LOL Scurrilous May 2018 #6
Why? Blue_true May 2018 #22
An analog clock may give one a better perception of time. Kaleva May 2018 #47
If the argument was on writing style, I would agree. Blue_true May 2018 #53
Exactly! Lulu KC May 2018 #134
Analog clocks DO give a faster perception of relative time Thunderbeast May 2018 #105
Yes, if you want to see "at a glance" how close you are to the next hour an analog clock display... PoliticAverse May 2018 #132
Really. Christ on a crutch. How hard is it to learn to tell time? Makes me wonder Nay May 2018 #25
They read and do math just fine. Codeine May 2018 #30
I spent the most of my life w analog time randr May 2018 #60
They do math just fine? Ask one of them to make change without a calculator...... lastlib May 2018 #102
The problem with the change thing, giving the cashier the change or even just part of it, PoindexterOglethorpe May 2018 #107
My own kids seem to do mental math Codeine May 2018 #130
I'm old fashioned Dorian Gray May 2018 #127
I think I leaned that in first grade. nt Flaleftist May 2018 #66
Yes, such used to exist. They were called "schools". Ghost Dog May 2018 #70
LOL Demovictory9 May 2018 #113
They'd always be tardy. Throck May 2018 #128
We're only a couple of generations away from this: Initech May 2018 #2
LOVE IT!!!!! MyOwnPeace May 2018 #77
That is not Big Ben. Tipperary May 2018 #139
It was MyOwnPeace May 2018 #157
Exactly what I envisioned Freethinker65 May 2018 #80
lol. Demovictory9 May 2018 #114
No words ... n/t RKP5637 May 2018 #3
Why can't they just teach them how to read both types of clocks? BigmanPigman May 2018 #4
How long can it take to teach an adult to learn to read an analog clock? PoliticAverse May 2018 #31
Exactly! That is why I said they are lazy or they are being losers. BigmanPigman May 2018 #38
I am teaching my daughter...she learned to read a clock years ago I am sure but has never used it Demsrule86 May 2018 #150
I am very visual and I see analog clocks all over the place in public. BigmanPigman May 2018 #151
Yeah for how long will cursive and analog clocks be around...I was forced to use a slide rule by a Demsrule86 May 2018 #154
These kids use their phones to tell time. Demsrule86 May 2018 #160
All it takes is a little practice, and you can make a game out of it FakeNoose May 2018 #156
Maybe people don't have the patience to teach it BigmanPigman May 2018 #162
Imagine that, TEACH them how, elleng May 2018 #58
Why don't schools teach how to tell time on analog... CatMor May 2018 #5
i observed this phenomenon in the 80s samnsara May 2018 #7
My eldest stepson, who is in med school, cannot do cursive writing. Kaleva May 2018 #8
Hand them a rotary phone and see what happens.... dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #9
Another Carrington Event would really screw up the younger generations. Kaleva May 2018 #14
Exactly. dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #86
Another Carrington event will screw up ALL generations. roamer65 May 2018 #115
I can get by without cell phones, or any phone, and electronic games Kaleva May 2018 #117
All the spent fuel pools would eventually lose power and become radioactive infernos. roamer65 May 2018 #164
What do clocks have to do with reading real books? Codeine May 2018 #18
There were illiterate-ass motherfuckers when you were in school? Mariana May 2018 #59
Or (shudder!) conduct a cash transaction Golden Raisin May 2018 #20
Or write a bank check...seen it when asked as a job duty...no can do lunasun May 2018 #64
They would Learn. Adrahil May 2018 #24
You'd think some of the people posting on this thread Mariana May 2018 #63
This thread has a very get off my lawn feel to it crazycatlady May 2018 #144
As was pointed out elsewhere in this thread Mariana May 2018 #148
Ah, the art of double-declutching low-gear changes Ghost Dog May 2018 #71
You were lucky gladium et scutum May 2018 #122
My current doctor's cursive handwriting is close to illegible, Ghost Dog May 2018 #75
My handwriting is so bad Jake Stern May 2018 #106
I can barely understand his writing in print Kaleva May 2018 #110
I think it's called "Doctor Keep em' Guessing" 101. zanana1 May 2018 #140
I can't tell the time with an hourglass malaise May 2018 #10
Not fair. You are too modern. Oops, got to check my sundial. Blue_true May 2018 #26
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise May 2018 #27
But can such technology always be relied upon, Malaise? Ghost Dog May 2018 #73
Very interesting response with wonderful information malaise May 2018 #76
When the next big war starts, soon, however, Ghost Dog May 2018 #82
Then those who paid attention to history malaise May 2018 #87
Yup. Ghost Dog May 2018 #89
Dave Allen had this covered years ago: Denzil_DC May 2018 #11
Seems like it would be better to leave the analog clocks Raine May 2018 #12
Very few of them can use a sundial Codeine May 2018 #13
Hmmm.. GeorgeGist May 2018 #15
Who cares? Adrahil May 2018 #16
This. Codeine May 2018 #21
My First Grade teacher was a hardass on penmanship. Blue_true May 2018 #29
I learned how to write cursive and then Codeine May 2018 #33
I wrote in cursive until I started working as an engineer. Blue_true May 2018 #46
Exactly. DavidDvorkin May 2018 #32
I think reading and writing in cursive is important. phylny May 2018 #36
IMO, we need to move on. Adrahil May 2018 #45
I can attest that writing longhand boosts creativity. See my post on that. nt Blue_true May 2018 #51
After years of being an engineer, I started writing fictional novels during free time. Blue_true May 2018 #49
I'm experiencing something similar: Ghost Dog May 2018 #91
I found that I think easier and can tolerate distractions better when I do first drafts freehand. Blue_true May 2018 #166
Nothing wrong with that... Adrahil May 2018 #131
I use a combination of cursive and block lettering. Blue_true May 2018 #167
Cool... I find writing on the computer way easier.... Adrahil May 2018 #169
I tend to analyze while I write, from habit. Blue_true May 2018 #170
++ see post 54 . We taught it at home to all and if the teachers allow it, they use it for any lunasun May 2018 #61
I read a study from a decade ago, or so, that stated that CrispyQ May 2018 #67
They also got rid of sundials and time balls. rickford66 May 2018 #17
On mental acuity tests, one of the tasks DeminPennswoods May 2018 #19
So when will they update Big Ben? lpbk2713 May 2018 #23
So, teach them. n/t Guilded Lilly May 2018 #28
Why? Codeine May 2018 #35
I disagree that it's useless. MariaCSR May 2018 #39
I disagree as well BannonsLiver May 2018 #50
Because knowledge is power. Because not everyone lives in a digital world. Because... Guilded Lilly May 2018 #79
This is the UK Sgent May 2018 #109
The mindset isn't exclusively American related. Knowledge is still Guilded Lilly May 2018 #126
There are lots of analog clocks and watches out there. backscatter712 May 2018 #111
You're having a turkish! ProudLib72 May 2018 #34
many analog clocks need no batteries or current when the power fails. they msongs May 2018 #37
No, hardly any. How many people have to wind up clocks as part of their job these days? muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #121
Christ, I taught myself how to read an analog clock when I was maybe five or six years old Downtown Hound May 2018 #40
I could tell time on a clock back in 1957 when I was five, elocs May 2018 #44
Me too and I was curious enough Raine May 2018 #55
Wait they should practice with Big Ben. Historic NY May 2018 #41
Began noticing kids weren't learning to tell time on analog clocks in early 70s bobbieinok May 2018 #42
There is something more serious here... defacto7 May 2018 #43
I think without practice its a skill that's easy to lose. aikoaiko May 2018 #158
For all those saying "well, teach them" - it is taught, in Year One, but this is 10 years later muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #48
But if the classrooms have analog clocks sarisataka May 2018 #78
I don't think many classrooms do have analogue clocks muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #120
I'm younger than most of this forum crazycatlady May 2018 #52
Quarter and half aren't "rounding"? Spider Jerusalem May 2018 #123
I'm well aware of that crazycatlady May 2018 #143
Teacher asked our uoungest not to turn in work in cursive . He tokd her oh my parents wanted lunasun May 2018 #54
Seriously? I taught my kids how to read a clock as soon as they learned their numbers. Laffy Kat May 2018 #56
They better know how to read this one lol Blues Heron May 2018 #57
Three minutes before midnight? Ghost Dog May 2018 #92
yeah and this one's running slow! Blues Heron May 2018 #94
Imagine their confusion over a sun dial randr May 2018 #62
I have an analog clock on my phone wallpaper... Wounded Bear May 2018 #65
We have a retirement clock. dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #90
Hmmm...I wasn't born with that skill, either. MineralMan May 2018 #68
There goes half past four and MineralMan May 2018 #69
What's really shocking is that today's kids don't know how to use an astrolabe DavidDvorkin May 2018 #72
Yup. Nt Adrahil May 2018 #104
So when they're watching old movies with clocks in them and knowing the time is betsuni May 2018 #74
So does mine. Cha May 2018 #99
Just asked my 13yo and 15yo defacto7 May 2018 #81
I see more analog clocks then digital ones at offices and so forth. Kaleva May 2018 #112
Persistence of Memory comes to mind Blues Heron May 2018 #83
+1 for Dali defacto7 May 2018 #161
I bet people said the same thing when we quit using sundials. Hoyt May 2018 #84
Actually I wish I knew how to tell time with one Raine May 2018 #119
+1 Lulu KC May 2018 #135
Never stop learning! Decoy of Fenris May 2018 #155
Thanks! nt Raine May 2018 #168
The wife and I had a huge fight when we got our boat. GulfCoast66 May 2018 #85
Always maintain your dead reckoning constantly updated Ghost Dog May 2018 #93
Hah. But too often dead reckoning gets you dead on the water! GulfCoast66 May 2018 #97
ok. gonna put an analog clock on the puter now. pansypoo53219 May 2018 #88
Post hoc ergo propter hoc, or maybe the inverse, or some-fallacy, or something? RockRaven May 2018 #95
Thanks for your post canetoad May 2018 #96
This is just sad. Teach it.. it's a part of Cha May 2018 #98
That's just one design. Can you tell the time on this one? jberryhill May 2018 #124
They couldn't teach them in like 5 minutes? They must have stupid teachers and/or students! nt doc03 May 2018 #100
Our house is full of analog clocks. hunter May 2018 #101
Some analog clocks have Roman numerals like Big Ben kskiska May 2018 #103
When I started fourth grade, PoindexterOglethorpe May 2018 #108
I get very confused when people say 'it is half past seven' crazycatlady May 2018 #146
Just to confuse things more, in German, the 'half' is *before* the next hour muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #147
Penmanship is on it's way out to. Kaleva May 2018 #116
They don't teach flint knapping either. briv1016 May 2018 #118
What I wish is that we could teach people here to read the article before posting Blue_Adept May 2018 #125
It's a bad article too, which has suffered from being an indirect report muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #141
Exactly Blue_Adept May 2018 #142
At least they can do metric. Throck May 2018 #129
Good point. Hoyt May 2018 #138
Remove them? It sounds like a teaching opportunity. Vinca May 2018 #133
They're likely to have a digital clock in their pockets crazycatlady May 2018 #145
I disapprove of this move. Pope George Ringo II May 2018 #136
Use it or lose it IronLionZion May 2018 #137
My own daughter can't tell time with a regular clock! She is the baby of the family. I don't know Demsrule86 May 2018 #149
AND STAY OFF MY LAWN!!! progressoid May 2018 #152
As a kid I had trouble reading analog clocks csziggy May 2018 #153
Yeah, it's time to go digital dalton99a May 2018 #159
But don't use the 24-hour clock lest kids complain about that, too Blue_Tires May 2018 #163
Teach Them How To Read Analog Clocks erpowers May 2018 #165
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