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DFW

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33. It's not only pricing
Mon May 7, 2018, 02:39 PM
May 2018

It's also the forbidding of certain drugs that work far better than anything on our market. An American friend of my wife had serious digestion problems after a long period of antibiotic medication that she needed to combat a particularly nasty infection. My wife sent her an over-the-counter medication they have here in Germany that treats the internal imbalance caused by the extended period of antibiotic treatment. She was fine within ten days.

The most flagrant example I know of was shown to me by a co-worker from Brazil. We were both working on an assignment in London, and I had developed horrible lower back pain. It had gotten so bad, I had started seeing a chiropractor for the first time in my life. Even he didn't make much progress. When my Brazilian colleague noticed I was having trouble just getting up and sitting down, he asked what my problem was. I said intense lower back pain."Oh, that," he commented as if I said I needed a Kleenex. He gave me a pin pill, and said, "here, take this before you go to bed." I was so desperate, I didn't even ask what it was. So, I took it and lowered myself into bed. The next morning, I woke and started to very carefully get up. But I didn't need to be careful. The pain was gone, I mean, not just better but COMPLETELY gone. I couldn't believe it. I was scared I would get addicted to these things, no matter what they were. But no, not only did I not get addicted, I didn't need another one.

These pills come in boxes of 30 pills each, and cost $30 per box, or $1 per pill. And they WORK. We had a gardner over on Saturday, and he had complained before of horrible back pain. I said, no wonder with all the strenuous stuff you do. He is in hie early forties, and looks ten years younger. I gave him one of these pills about a month ago when I had last seen him, before I went to the States. He told me that he had naturally been rather skeptical of my glowing praise of this medicine, but one evening he said the pain was so strong, he was willing to try anything to suppress it. He finally took the little pink pill from Brazil. Like everyone else, he woke up the next morning (and the next four weeks after that) pain free. He could once again do anything. He said he immediately went to the internet to find out where he could get some here in Europe. After all, this was the INTERNET!! You can get ANYTHING over the internet, can't you? Well, no, apparently not. These pills are sold ONLY in Brazil. End of story. He even contemplated blowing off a long-planned trip with his girlfriend to Myanmar to go to Brazil instead. I said, don't do that, she'll kill you. As it turns out, my colleague is going home next month for a family visit, and will bring back a few packs of these things. I will save a few for our gardener, although, so far (a month later now) he hasn't needed another one.

Now if there is a wonder pill out there, that cures muscular back pain with a $1 dosage, with no side effects and lasting effect, wouldn't you think that pharma industry would be out there trying to buy up the patent and sell them in America and Europe for $50 each (or, if you are Martin Shkreli, $750 each)? Hell if I know, but I have never seen or heard of these things being offered for sale outside of Brazil, a place where I have never been. I'm sure Big Pharma knows about this pill, but if they can sell 150 pills at $10 each that work about 5% as effectively, and get orthopedists to prescribe them as the strongest thing they can prescribe, what interest could they POSSIBLY have in selling a pill that does 100% of the job, and for $1 (even if they ell them for 50 times that)?

And there lies our (the patients') problem.

Anyone for a trip up the Amazon, with a stop at the local pharmacy before returning home?

By the way, if anyone IS planning a visit to Brazil, the pill is called TANDRILAX, and comes in red boxes of 30 pills, and costs the equivalent of $30 per box.

Boa viagem!

60 Minutes is covering Big Pharma [View all] Honeycombe8 May 2018 OP
and MONOPOLY! elleng May 2018 #1
The Evils of Big Pharma Exposed StarryNite May 2018 #2
Excellent article. Said better than I've ever heard it said. nt Honeycombe8 May 2018 #10
"globalrearch.ca" is a far-right Canadian news source, it's even worse than Fox. Archae May 2018 #15
Looking at their articles I would say that is not at all accurate. Exotica May 2018 #22
Information about "global research" Archae May 2018 #23
that only shows that they are not "RW" as you laid out, Exotica May 2018 #24
So we should use "Infowars" and Faux "news" as sources too? Archae May 2018 #25
I never said "all" pharma companies were evil or greedy, so that's a non sequitur Exotica May 2018 #28
I'll give you just one example... Archae May 2018 #31
like I said, I never claimed Global Research was anywhere near 100% legit Exotica May 2018 #32
It's an anti-Trump, anti-discrimination, pro-environmental site, looks like. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #38
Drop your prices or we safeinOhio May 2018 #3
+1 dalton99a May 2018 #4
A better route would be to tie patent durations to the fairness of drug pricing. Blue_true May 2018 #5
That industry paid millions lobbying safeinOhio May 2018 #6
+1. nt Honeycombe8 May 2018 #11
I saw that segment. Ilsa May 2018 #7
And they pay large amounts of $$ the people who WRITE the laws Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #8
Oh you mean like ALEC and K street? YOHABLO May 2018 #9
Yep. THIS is one of the problems. Some of the politicians go to work in Pharma when they leave. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #12
They write the laws themselves and hand them to their shills. ooky May 2018 #13
Something needs to be done about drug prices, but drugs are only about 10% of healthcare Hoyt May 2018 #14
I read it's about 20% of the cost. To the person who needs it, it's everything, though. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #20
Definitely agree with second sentence. 2016 government report says 10%. But, point I'm making is Hoyt May 2018 #30
When a pharma giant is doing well, it has SO much money to throw around, it's ridiculous. BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #16
That's what happens when you depend on private industry to run healthcare Victor_c3 May 2018 #17
I know John Edwards blew it, BUT... LisaM May 2018 #18
"Why is health care so expensive? Because the fix is in" mitch96 May 2018 #19
Well, Shkreli IS pharma, and what he did was legal. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #21
Same happened to Martha Stewart mitch96 May 2018 #29
Some Democrats are owned by BIG PHARMA and should be scrutinized for that relationship. democratisphere May 2018 #26
+1 dalton99a May 2018 #27
It's not only pricing DFW May 2018 #33
Tandrilax - here's some information MineralMan May 2018 #34
The beauty of Tandrilax was that I needed only one, and that did the trick DFW May 2018 #35
I understand. But, it's not a miracle drug. MineralMan May 2018 #36
That could all be. I wouldn't know DFW May 2018 #37
That pill is not still working. All of the ingredients were dealt with by MineralMan May 2018 #39
I realize that the ingredients were gone quickly DFW May 2018 #44
It sounds like it removed inflammation. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #41
Thanks. I'm going to write that down, for when I need it. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #40
Since it's OTC stuff, it's worth a try. MineralMan May 2018 #43
An mportant distinction for sure DFW May 2018 #45
Yup. MineralMan May 2018 #46
Our orthopedist here said: DFW May 2018 #47
Pretty accurate. MineralMan May 2018 #48
Yeah...like yu, I get the regular inflammation back pain sometimes. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #49
It's called FREEDOM budkin May 2018 #42
My pharmacy bills are about $300 a month. That's with insurance. hunter May 2018 #50
And yet, many want to leave Mexico and its cheap medications to come here... Honeycombe8 May 2018 #51
There was a little shop in our town catering to farmworkers... hunter May 2018 #52
Wow. Lots of information. Thanks. Honeycombe8 May 2018 #53
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