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Civic Justice

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24. You said: I don't believe in the death penalty, ever, for anyone
Sat May 26, 2018, 08:41 AM
May 2018

Well, that is your choice and right to believe that. I however, see issue of some mad crazed evil premeditated murderer killing other kids, does deserve the death penalty, and if they are caught at the location with weapons they used to kill people, then ..... take the same posture and mentality they take when they decide to shoot black people. When they shoot black people they claim, "he had a gun"... that's all they generally say.... Yet, when its a white kid with a gun, they want to find ways not to take the posture and mentality to shoot them as a first mindset of thought.

This stuff goes all the ways back to the Jim Crow, of "shoot first and don't think later" when it comes to black people, but when it comes to white people, It's "oH', they're white, they can't be a threat"... bullshit!!!
I posted the link to FBI Stats. and the facts tell otherwise, that they not only can be a threat, the frequency of their killing habits show they are a threat and many times have carried out that threat and others are dead because of it.

Hell, the world saw John Hinkley shoot President Reagan, and years later he is allowed to go home on weekends or whatever. If he'd been black.. He'd have been made dead, and then the word would be that "all" black people are of some criminal killer mindset. IF they had not killed him on the spot, he would have been given the death penalty, and the execution would have taken place in record time.

White people have been killing people for 100's of years in America and its sanitized away, especially if they kill someone black. Now, people as your speaking is saying, if they kill up other young innocent kids, they should not themselves be killed.
But many people who speak like you, when it comes to black people, they whine and cry about the cost of incarceration, and lean to either killing them on the spot, or the death penalty... but no one is saying anything about the cost of incarceration for white people when they cost the system just as much to house and provide for in prison.

The ideology of "white privilege" is getting a lot of white people killed by other white people, and then the attitude is, "SANITIZE IT BY ANY MEANS"... and the default go to is, "they have a mental issue"... or they were distraught because of this or that. White history in America is full of "murderous types within their ethnic group"... from mass murder, to abducting and dismembering women, killing the family and for 100 yrs they killed black people and made a party for doing so, where they brought the kids to a hanging like it was party in the park...
Police have been getting away with it for more than 100 yrs, and now "cell phones is busting their asses"... even then the first thing "white people say is"... "we did not see what led up to it". Yet, you come with some script about they should not be judge, jury and executioner, yet, that is exactly what they become when it comes to black people, and they do it to to unarmed black people, many who are accosted based on some Jim Crow ideological concept of if they are black they must be guilt of something.
Again, when truth and facts show the expanse of crimes and types of crimes by white people, seem to fill up the FBI list and the TV movies can't make enough shows based to cover all the "real life" killing methods that are engaged by white people.

Only when some white persons killing habit comes to ones individual home do they suddenly wake up.... and acknowledge the killer as a murderous evil killer.
We just saw the mad man and his evilness drive into a restaurant and kill his own daughter, and the first they they say, is he has been having challenges and depression.. Hell no... He was a premeditated evil killer, who did kill, but again, to try and sanitize it, they follow it up with bullshit about how much he loved his daughter, which proved not to be true, because he purposefully drove that car in an killed her, and thank goodness he did not kill the grandchildren at the table too.

If he'd been black there would have been more than 100 bullets fired into the car and his body "on the spot" !!!!! killing his as dead as dead can be !!!!!!!!!!!!! and the follow up with have been how violent and malice minded he had been over x period of time. Not, some crap about he was just depressed.


Here's truth: FBI Stats

Arrests, by Race and Ethnicity, 2016

In 2016, 69.6 percent of all individuals arrested were White, 26.9 percent were Black or African American, and 3.6 percent were of other races.
Of arrestees for whom ethnicity was reported, 18.4 percent were Hispanic.
Of all juveniles (persons under the age of 18) arrested in 2016, 62.1 percent were White, 34.7 percent were Black or African American, and 3.2 percent were of other races.
Of juvenile arrestees for whom ethnicity was reported, 22.8 percent were Hispanic.
Of all adults arrested in 2016, 70.2 percent were White, 26.2 percent were Black or African American, and 3.6 percent were of other races.
Of adult arrestees for whom ethnicity was reported, 18.0 were Hispanic.
White individuals were arrested more often for violent crimes than individuals of any other race and accounted for 59.0 percent of those arrests.
Of adults arrested for murder, 52.0 percent were Black or African American, 45.4 percent were White, and 2.6 percent were of other races.
Black or African American juveniles comprised 52.0 percent of all juveniles arrested for violent crimes. White juveniles accounted for 58.4 percent of all juveniles arrested for property crimes.
Of juveniles arrested for drug abuse violations, 74.8 percent were White.
White juveniles comprised 64.7 percent of juveniles arrested for rape and 60.2 percent of juveniles arrested for larceny-theft.



I care just as much about not seeing young white kids killed in schools, just as much as I care about not seeing any ethnicity of kids killed in schools. I equally care as much about not seeing black people killing other black people, as I care about not seeing white people kill other white people... and I care as much about not seeing blacks kills whites, as I care about not seeing whites kill blacks. PERIOD!!!! I damn sure don't care to see people "killing the entire family" !!!! Regardless of what color they are, and I damn sure don't care to see people "killing their co-workers"...

I got no problem with seeing the person who mass kill a volume of others or killing their family being killed.

Anyone who mass kill others, has no business in this society.... nor should we waste time spinning in the court system so it can make profit for the legal system workers. Mass Killers of Other People, has no right to life, after they have taken that right from a mass volume of other innocent people... and that is an opinion. I don't personally get to decide who lives and who dies.



Are you suggesting that all white school shooters should be shot on sight by the police The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #1
That's how the system "SHOULD WORK", but tell that to the people shot for a busted tail light Civic Justice May 2018 #4
Shooting people on sight is not my idea of "civic justice." The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #5
I bet you'd change your mind if they were shooting up YOUR kids in a school.... Civic Justice May 2018 #6
No. If it's possible to arrest someone instead of killing them The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #7
I hope you take this VOCAL position the next time the police pull their guns on unarmed black people Civic Justice May 2018 #10
I have, and I do. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #11
you are purposefully being obtuse.... Civic Justice May 2018 #21
I am not being "obtuse," purposefully or otherwise. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #22
You said: I don't believe in the death penalty, ever, for anyone Civic Justice May 2018 #24
+1000 When when we call for the summary execution of children, we lose our humanity. Demsrule86 May 2018 #28
I believe in the merits of Justice, but a Mass Killer of Others, fits a whole different spectrum Civic Justice May 2018 #33
So who decides what murders rise to the level where summary justice by cop is justified? Demsrule86 May 2018 #39
Nobody said Murder was right, the discussion is about "those who kill kids in school". Civic Justice May 2018 #41
Tell that to the Cities that have let police off the hook for killing UNARMED black people... !!!! Civic Justice May 2018 #42
That has nothing to do with this...nothing. Demsrule86 May 2018 #44
Police should not be jury and executioner regardless of race...two wrongs never Demsrule86 May 2018 #25
What you describe is not justice but vengeance. There is a difference you know. Demsrule86 May 2018 #31
My nephews son goes to that school. He was there today. He is fine. spanone May 2018 #2
I am thankful that your nephew was not injured or worse. Demsrule86 May 2018 #29
Thank you!!! spanone May 2018 #30
Come on now malaise May 2018 #3
The shooter was a 13 year old boy oberliner May 2018 #8
How much difference do you think that made to the people who were shot? Civic Justice May 2018 #9
Why do you think the problem of black people getting shot by police The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #12
Miss the point all you want; you either understand whats written or you don't Civic Justice May 2018 #16
That one is deliberately ignoring your point. Tipperary May 2018 #35
whom ever "that one" is... does not have to submit to anyone's opinion... Civic Justice May 2018 #43
Probably quite a bit oberliner May 2018 #15
I don't believe in execution in any form. I will merely say...you are wrong and should delete this Demsrule86 May 2018 #27
Why... Civic Justice May 2018 #37
Advocating the shooting of a 13 year old by law enforcement is wrong and should not be posted here. Demsrule86 May 2018 #38
Either get Perspective and Context of the conversation of go to another post... Civic Justice May 2018 #40
You are behaving in a very rude fashion...I can reply to any post I choose in a respectful manner... Demsrule86 May 2018 #45
you chose to ignore this so, I'll repeat it for you. Civic Justice May 2018 #46
How old was malaise May 2018 #13
He was 14 oberliner May 2018 #14
why didn't you get that message to the police who shot the kid at the park a year or so ago... Civic Justice May 2018 #17
Tamir Rice was 12 uppityperson May 2018 #23
Don't make me post his open casket malaise May 2018 #18
Which isn't particularly relevant to police shootings given police didn't kill Till. mythology May 2018 #20
The police didn't do anything about it either.... the men who killed him went free... Civic Justice May 2018 #26
An unarmed teacher took the kid down RhodeIslandOne May 2018 #19
Lol. Well done. Tipperary May 2018 #36
Wow. Saving. raven mad May 2018 #32
The Gulf of Tonkin comes to mind... resulting in the death of MILLIONS.... Civic Justice May 2018 #34
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