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philly_bob

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129. You still haven't responded to the question

Fri Jun 1, 2018, 05:56 PM

Jun 2018

on the use of WYPIPO in spoken language -- except for an intellectually dishonest "Oh My Lord" -- and instead you question my understanding of "Dog Whistle Politics," which someone else brought up.

Effie. you dodge the hard questions, like the one I asked. Is WYPIPO intended for use in speech? If so, how does it distinguish between "White People" and WYPIPO. And if that distinction is not apparent in spoken language, doesn't the justification for WYPIPO disappear? Or is it just an online affectation, used in DU and the Root and nowhere else.

I persevere in my questions because a) I never heard the term until three weeks ago -- what the hell does it mean? (I know you THINK you've already explained it) and b) the more I see it in use, I fear WYPIPO has the potential to become a divisive racial slur, not a harmless acronym.

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Re Wypipo and Divisiveness [View all] EffieBlack May 2018 OP

Calling people a racial epithet is a way of "talking about race"? Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #1

I'll put you down as "Can't provide a definition" EffieBlack May 2018 #5

That would probably be more comfortable for you than engaging Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #7

LOL EffieBlack May 2018 #8

No, you're denying. mythology May 2018 #20

Wait a second here. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #58

It is shorthand, and simple. guillaumeb May 2018 #2

👍 NurseJackie May 2018 #6

I've seen these types of arguments by racists many times before Renew Deal May 2018 #3

It's not divisive nini May 2018 #4

You said "they" like that's the vilified "others", people who are intrinsically different procon May 2018 #39

Yawn nini May 2018 #53

I'm not a teenager, so you're safe. nt procon May 2018 #54

Another yawn nini Jun 2018 #62

Wow, being asked to take time to think is somehow a revenge? bettyellen Jun 2018 #79

A race is being used as an insult... TCJ70 May 2018 #9

You haven't answered the questions EffieBlack May 2018 #10

Change the W word to the N word and reread your OP Renew Deal May 2018 #16

No. But I do suggest you reread your OP and consider deleting it. EffieBlack May 2018 #22

Of course you won't. That would reveal your hypocrisy Renew Deal May 2018 #48

As I was saying ... EffieBlack Jun 2018 #95

What? The "W" word is a relatively recent word and isn't used derogatorily, just descriptively.... George II Jun 2018 #59

Woah. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #64

Little Rock 1959: George II Jun 2018 #65

I think I saw that kid somewhere... sheshe2 Jun 2018 #67

Sadly we come across people like that almost every day. George II Jun 2018 #94

And you can find them in all kinds of places, too. Most of them not clever enough to Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #113

Sometimes I am AMAZED Barack got elected. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #122

There was more of us than them. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #123

I've heard that from Roseanne supporters recently radical noodle Jun 2018 #72

Change the history of the US... tonedevil Jun 2018 #78

You are claiming an equivalence that does not exist. nt gollygee Jun 2018 #100

Hmmm... TCJ70 May 2018 #17

But you didn't declare your smartness. Obviously you lose the discussion mythology May 2018 #27

Donald! Donald Trump, is that really you? procon May 2018 #47

That's life! George II Jun 2018 #61

It is a racial epithet Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #11

When an ally begs you to stop and you don't... ecstatic May 2018 #12

Allies are the worst "wypipo" Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #13

That's pretty hopeless treestar May 2018 #21

Yes. Internalize that. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #26

According to that article, Hillary is the worst. Crunchy Frog May 2018 #34

No definition - he doesn't even mention the term "divisive" much less define it EffieBlack May 2018 #36

I was talking (to the previous poster) about the definition of the "w" word. Crunchy Frog May 2018 #41

I'm shocked to see WHO the essayist considers to be among the worst "wypipo"! Petrushka May 2018 #40

Oh man, that is awful wonkwest Jun 2018 #71

Two ways to look at something written by someone with life experiences you have NO POSSIBLE Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #114

'Splain to them why they're wrong? EffieBlack Jun 2018 #125

Something you seem to enjoy doing. Bok_Tukalo Jun 2018 #143

You STILL haven't answered the question EffieBlack May 2018 #15

I don't know if anyone compared wyp** to n***, so I can't speak on it ecstatic May 2018 #24

Scroll up EffieBlack May 2018 #43

Interesting. nt ecstatic May 2018 #45

DU is a community of thousands of people. Many of them are allies. Lots of them are not EffieBlack May 2018 #46

ok, but when does it become bullying? I'm sure I offend ecstatic May 2018 #51

Why is it your job to tell people what they can or cannot say on this site? sheshe2 Jun 2018 #75

I didn't say that. I said I don't get to determine what another person finds offensive. ecstatic Jun 2018 #77

But the OP is telling you, on multiple occasions, what they find offensive Tarc Jun 2018 #99

That sounds nice kcr Jun 2018 #102

error_overflow Sailor65x1 May 2018 #14

Hell no! sheshe2 May 2018 #18

A lot of the folks throwing fits about "Wypipo" were the same ones telling us back in 2015-16 that EffieBlack May 2018 #25

Basically. sheshe2 May 2018 #37

Yep and almost EVERY last one of them has one other thing in common from that time period Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #115

Hmmm EffieBlack Jun 2018 #124

LOL I almost pm'd you before I read the whole sentence... Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #126

I'd post a funny Wypipo gif Docreed2003 May 2018 #19

Divisive drmeow May 2018 #23

Thank you for offering a definition and a very thoughtful answer. EffieBlack May 2018 #30

After I posted drmeow Jun 2018 #60

the article done by the guy that coined it DonCoquixote May 2018 #28

Yes. I've read it. It doesn't answer my question EffieBlack May 2018 #31

Michael Harriot, author of: "Why I Could Never Vote For Hillary Clinton" oberliner May 2018 #33

Hey, Boo - I was SO excited when I saw a link to Harriott because I KNEW that would smoke you out EffieBlack May 2018 #35

Thanks oberliner May 2018 #44

Good questions mcar May 2018 #29

I will be the final arbiter of this long standing dispute ProudLib72 May 2018 #32

I LOVE it! EffieBlack May 2018 #38

All of the "splainin" you are receiving here today, wow, record breaking Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #116

Not only am gettin some good splainin, but did you know I've been given a new job? EffieBlack Jun 2018 #120

You are the BEST! Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #121

So are you EffieBlack Jun 2018 #127

You realize I was being super facetious, right? ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #136

Oh lord yes, in fact, I didnt read your post until now, I was referring to the usual Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #137

These are great questions oberliner May 2018 #42

+1 progressoid May 2018 #52

Why is North Carolina divided over the best BBQ sauce? fescuerescue May 2018 #49

It's divisive because that is the intent LostinRed May 2018 #50

I am unfamiliar with HDSam May 2018 #55

Dont know about divisive, but it is rather obnoxious. nt LexVegas May 2018 #56

White people by and large ismnotwasm May 2018 #57

K&R. Interesting how I found this thread. K&R uppityperson Jun 2018 #63

I'll take a crack at this wonkwest Jun 2018 #66

Nice post LostinRed Jun 2018 #80

Well said. n/t ms liberty Jun 2018 #86

Thank you. Well said. elehhhhna Jun 2018 #101

I went HDSam Jun 2018 #68

Those were mostly originally used by whites to describe lower class poor whites. betsuni Jun 2018 #73

Good Grief shadowmayor Jun 2018 #69

Anybody at anytime can claim anything is divisive it is a subjective term.I believe intent of the njhoneybadger Jun 2018 #70

When I hear it actually spoken verbally Alea Jun 2018 #74

Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #81

Not necessarily wonkwest Jun 2018 #82

My take on what you witnessed ecstatic Jun 2018 #83

Thanks for your reply! wonkwest Jun 2018 #84

White BASHING? Get the HELL Out of here with that CRAP Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #117

K&R Gothmog Jun 2018 #76

Since you chose not to use a dictionary, I'll help you doxyluv13 Jun 2018 #85

Thanks for the response. But you really believe "discord" should be verboten on DU? EffieBlack Jun 2018 #98

Who said anything about "forbidden"? doxyluv13 Jun 2018 #139

It's a slur, and discourages some people who might be inclined to alliance. Orsino Jun 2018 #87

Oh my god this reminds me of you better give me a reason Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #118

This shiksa is fine cyclonefence Jun 2018 #88

Who cares? Dorian Gray Jun 2018 #89

Comes down to: if you're walking down the street and someone yells betsuni Jun 2018 #90

:thumbsup: Heidi Jun 2018 #91

And if you're walking down the street and hear someone say "Wypipo" you might not like it but that's EffieBlack Jun 2018 #96

K Me. Jun 2018 #92

I haven't been following these wypipo threads too closely because of time Baitball Blogger Jun 2018 #93

GREAT post EffieBlack Jun 2018 #97

BB DonCoquixote Jun 2018 #104

Wow. Thank you, I will. Baitball Blogger Jun 2018 #109

Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #103

In spoken language, how does WYPIPO work? philly_bob Jun 2018 #105

Oh, good Lord EffieBlack Jun 2018 #106

That's the way that dog whistle language works fescuerescue Jun 2018 #107

Illuminating response, FR philly_bob Jun 2018 #108

You apparently don't understand what "dog whistle" is EffieBlack Jun 2018 #112

You still haven't responded to the question philly_bob Jun 2018 #129

I don't intend to answer your question on demand EffieBlack Jun 2018 #130

And yet you demand answers from everyone else melman Jun 2018 #132

Actually I don't. But nice of you to pop in to try to stir things up. EffieBlack Jun 2018 #134

At the risk of whitesplaining... tonedevil Jun 2018 #135

I am a 60 yr old cis white man, and I think... MicaelS Jun 2018 #110

Thanks EffieBlack Jun 2018 #111

I hope there are 200 more if that is what it takes to get the point across Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #119

the only place i have heard read seen that word in print is on DU....so what gives? samnsara Jun 2018 #128

Google it EffieBlack Jun 2018 #131

Or better yet, Twitter it. philly_bob Jun 2018 #138

As a white, older (67) male Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 2018 #133

K&R betsuni Jun 2018 #140

I don't think the term is divisive. Captain Stern Jun 2018 #141

And I ask what's wrong with divisiveness? We SHOULD divide white people in general against wypipo ck4829 Jun 2018 #142

White fragility is very much in force, even on DU.(nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #144