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157. But you don't know where those 3rd party numbers came from or where they would have went.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #146)

Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:11 PM

Jun 2018

Better try next time.

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Get ready to be flamed for making sense HopeAgain Jun 2018 #1

Everything on your list is now in jeopardy for decades due to today's USSC retirement news. beaglelover Jun 2018 #3

Spin your wheels however you want... HopeAgain Jun 2018 #4

Spin yours... you're views are in the minority revmclaren Jun 2018 #26

I voted for Hillary HopeAgain Jun 2018 #33

!1000000! SammyWinstonJack Jun 2018 #76

Let people grieve. n/t ChiTownDenny Jun 2018 #155

More power to u and all of us. Chickensoup Jun 2018 #91

You're the one who's " Spin your wheels however you want..." Cha Jun 2018 #55

+1000000... revmclaren Jun 2018 #128

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Independents are not a bloc. n/t seaglass Jun 2018 #14

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Only 10% of Independents do not vote along party lines. I didn't say ignore Independents seaglass Jun 2018 #29

.... Scurrilous Jun 2018 #38

Some independents lean Republican, some lean Democratic. They aren't a monolithic block n/t emulatorloo Jun 2018 #130

Agreed! Sanders and idiot Stein screwed us all! machoneman Jun 2018 #99

Thank you. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #19

You're so right! Way past time to end the 2016 blame game...we need to unite & look to the future! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #60

Clinton DID Talk about those things dbackjon Jun 2018 #98

Pretty sure we talked about all that in 2016. nt Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2018 #107

No. Squinch Jun 2018 #2

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Really? Me. Jun 2018 #86

You mean voter suppression works right? thx in advance uponit7771 Jun 2018 #6

Of eligible voters is referenced in the Pew Research report, so that has been addressed I think. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #36

VSM's in 08 & 12 did not match what went into law by 16. I've found no PEW polling on how uponit7771 Jun 2018 #45

2016 was the first presidential election following the gutting of the Voting Rights Act. N/T lapucelle Jun 2018 #132

Fuck that leftynyc Jun 2018 #7

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Want to have another hissy fit? leftynyc Jun 2018 #15

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I think the point is that people need to learn to tell the difference between an imperfect friend... nycbos Jun 2018 #17

Welcome to DU el_bryanto Jun 2018 #20

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Fucking 3rd Party LIARS stein and sarandon Are Going TO LIE Cha Jun 2018 #65

And what do you suppose could have been done to switch Stein and Trump voters Sophia4 Jun 2018 #23

Links please, because what I read is black people in Milwaukee and Detroit didn't turn out to vote. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #42

to be accurate...we don't know if the black vote didn't turn out questionseverything Jun 2018 #105

A friend from elementary school said her son xmas74 Jun 2018 #129

Hogwash. What you are saying is it had nothing to do with the number of people who voted for Trump, KPN Jun 2018 #78

Great and accurate post! I agree 100%! Morons indeed! n/m machoneman Jun 2018 #101

It seems absurd and dull-witted LanternWaste Jun 2018 #8

More - RandomAccess Jun 2018 #11

Good additional material. CanSocDem Jun 2018 #28

It won't, but - RandomAccess Jun 2018 #41

Pardon me, but that is some stupid shit. Jakes Progress Jun 2018 #12

Numbers and facts are stupid? Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #43

Wow! Whites are the majority of this country ecstatic Jun 2018 #13

But Trump "won" in certain states only by a small margin. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #40

It's possible that she chose the wrong mate. But here is how I allocate the blame: ecstatic Jun 2018 #66

She would have won if she had selected Bernie as her running mate. Sophia4 Jun 2018 #82

Um... racism as in trump energizing the alt right and KKK members... ecstatic Jun 2018 #93

Fuck Jill Stein voters and Susan Sarandon supporters. They did not vote Dem and can go to hell. LonePirate Jun 2018 #16

Sorry, but your support of Jill Stein was and continues to be a horrible mistake. DanTex Jun 2018 #21

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LOL. That's what you got from the OP's bashing of Hillary Clinton? DanTex Jun 2018 #30

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You think Jill Stein is "looking to unite"? Really? Where do you get that idea? DanTex Jun 2018 #39

Not this "independents" bullshit, we're more versed on that M$M meme here uponit7771 Jun 2018 #48

The time for unity was on November 8, 2016. As of today, Stein voters are essentially Republicans. LonePirate Jun 2018 #51

Thanks for the enlightenment Dan. The OP must have had a change of heart as some do seaglass Jun 2018 #46

I see no change of heart, so... Hav Jun 2018 #75

Wish we could rec individual posts RhodeIslandOne Jun 2018 #61

Thank you, those who wrote that deserve the spotlight now. Hav Jun 2018 #67

I don't support Jill Stein. I support logic, truth, and respect. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #79

Not anymore? That's good to hear. You're well on your way. DanTex Jun 2018 #81

Then you blew it. Cha Jun 2018 #85

You did at one time RhodeIslandOne Jun 2018 #119

No - fuck those faux-gressive rightwing activists Adenoid_Hynkel Jun 2018 #25

Oh ffs, Ocasio-Cortez is not a RWer. Outrageous attack on a soon to be elected Exotica Jun 2018 #110

Play a different card. lpbk2713 Jun 2018 #135

How about the 'do not bash general election Democratic candidates' card? Exotica Jun 2018 #158

How small a tent is TOO small? LiberalLovinLug Jun 2018 #162

No, not listening to half wits like Stein and Sarandon is the lesson. It is on their head that Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #31

And she still won by three million votes! dhol82 Jun 2018 #32

Not complicated. Sarandon, Stein, Corny West and their ilk cost us votes. oasis Jun 2018 #34

Maybe. But that's not what cost Clinton the election as least by a read of the numbers I linked. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #74

Wrong. SunSeeker Jun 2018 #137

Simple get the red out Jun 2018 #37

If you honestly believe.... spicysista Jun 2018 #44

+1, "received enough votes to impact the states of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, and Michigan. " uponit7771 Jun 2018 #53

. revmclaren Jun 2018 #59

At this point, that's all we can do. Keep an arsenal of the facts handy and ready to deploy. nt. spicysista Jun 2018 #142

Thank you. emulatorloo Jun 2018 #127

Yes, this is a terrible op. I'm not sure what he was trying to do here. nt. spicysista Jun 2018 #134

First of all I think this is a terrible post...and secondly many voters were targeted for voter Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #47

Actually the point of the post is to show that your premises are incorrect. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #69

cool story bro ! stonecutter357 Jun 2018 #49

Yeah, so cool.. and there's more to the story.. Cha Jun 2018 #143

NO. MariaCSR Jun 2018 #50

No. Bradical79 Jun 2018 #52

NO boston bean Jun 2018 #54

Stop blaming the people who gave us Trump. NCTraveler Jun 2018 #56

Thanks. elleng Jun 2018 #57

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Good point. I blame you Renew Deal Jun 2018 #62

I wish people would stop trying to defend 3rd party voters standingtall Jun 2018 #63

If Trump enablers do not understand the dire straights we're all facing under NY_20th Jun 2018 #64

What's more amazing is those blaming the "far left" MadDAsHell Jun 2018 #68

There's plenty of blame to go around. Don't worry, they get a share of it. n/t cynatnite Jun 2018 #70

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Say bye bye! marble falls Jun 2018 #72

The exit polls misstated Trump's performance among Latinos. Here are some articles that demonstrate StevieM Jun 2018 #73

She lost because of James Comey SubjectTrip Jun 2018 #77

It is not simply she lost because of Comey or Russians standingtall Jun 2018 #87

Those who fail to learn from history... Trumpocalypse Jun 2018 #80

Can you say Kris Kobach xeodtech Jun 2018 #83

You're part of the problem.. You got sucked into voting for Stein.. Cha Jun 2018 #84

Amen BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #89

Good catch Cha. Scurrilous Jun 2018 #90

It's all DanTex.. I'm just running Cha Jun 2018 #97

... Scurrilous Jun 2018 #116

Explains how sanguine Skidmore Jun 2018 #94

stein and ssarandon LIED their DAMN heads OFF and got Cha Jun 2018 #112

Indeed, Cha. Skidmore Jun 2018 #121

Much Love to you Cha Jun 2018 #126

Like I said, the numbers show Jill Stein Voters weren't the issue. Numbers don't lie. Sorry. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #95

The OP should not have posting privileges here. Codeine Jun 2018 #109

I know, Codeine.. an in you face Jill Stein Voter who Cha Jun 2018 #122

What the numbers show is African American Voter went down and minorities Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #113

You voted for Stein and proudly used DU as the platform to make that public Hav Jun 2018 #120

You don't know how I voted and it doesn't matter either way. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #131

HERE are some numbers that say "you lie" BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #144

We need to stop blaming each other. We need each other to end this scourge. Lint Head Jun 2018 #88

I'll tell you what those polls DON'T reflect. They don't reflect how many people the Sarandon's and still_one Jun 2018 #92

Mahalo for that, still_one.. And the OP Owns This.. Cha Jun 2018 #136

Here's Sarandon telling us that Hillary is worse than Trump... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #138

In November 2016 the choice was between a fascist and Hillary Clinton bronxiteforever Jun 2018 #96

I knew there would be some hot takes sooner or later Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #100

I'm not following your logic. 100% of Stein voters and Sarandon (AFAIK) did not vote for spooky3 Jun 2018 #102

The fact is that Jill Stein took enough votes in the 3 critical states to swing the election. pnwmom Jun 2018 #103

Should be more angry at... mwooldri Jun 2018 #152

Fuck that. ismnotwasm Jun 2018 #104

People like you aren't the whole problem, Codeine Jun 2018 #106

Allow me to respond to that. If they're being honest... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #151

I blame everyone's that didn't vote for Hillary. tammywammy Jun 2018 #108

Yes, definitely complicated. But if they had not played their role Hillary might be President. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #111

Jill Stein is a mediocre, pretty limited buffoon and Susan is a pretty good actress Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2018 #114

Black Voters for Trump/Immigration JustAnotherGen Jun 2018 #115

"if there is any demographic that "dropped off"...it would be the African American vote." BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #117

Look at the numbers. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #133

Look at the numbers in post #144 BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #146

But you don't know where those 3rd party numbers came from or where they would have went. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #157

Black voter turnout was higher, as a %, than whites in '12. Lower in '16 7962 Jun 2018 #163

Yes...let's blame Comey! Even tho the polls show he didn't cost the election. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #118

The polls absolutely DO show Comey's letter cost Hillary the election. SunSeeker Jun 2018 #149

Stop making excuses and take responsibility for what you did. emulatorloo Jun 2018 #123

"Voting is a civic responsibility" and yet Asian and Latino voting turnout is way way under... Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #139

I am saying - YOU - shrirked your responsibility. End of story. emulatorloo Jun 2018 #147

You don't know how I voted so you have no basis to say such a thing. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #153

You deny writing this? emulatorloo Jun 2018 #160

+ 1 NY_20th Jun 2018 #140

I am SOOOOOOO very with you on this. I'm so sick of the looking back and finger Ferrets are Cool Jun 2018 #124

Fuck no. (nt) Paladin Jun 2018 #125

It must be nice to be so privileged, safe and utterly self-involved... liberalmuse Jun 2018 #141

Voter turnout for Presidential elections is worse in Latino and Asian populations. Bread and Circus Jun 2018 #150

I had an argument videohead5 Jun 2018 #145

TRASHED. DinahMoeHum Jun 2018 #148

I will, rightly, blame Stein and Sarandon for Trump every day, and there's no valid argument Tarc Jun 2018 #154

Oh Please ... chesterslick Jun 2018 #156

Thanks for posting this. zentrum Jun 2018 #159

Actually I blame Trump voters for Trump being elected. n/t Mr.Bill Jun 2018 #161