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In reply to the discussion: When GOPrs can't win fair and square, they invariably cheat... [View all]NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)23. Wayne County turnout dropped in 2012 and dropped more in 2016
in 2008, Wayne County (Detroit) turned out 873,000 voters
in 2012, it was 810,000
in 2016, it was down to 748,000
Yes, they voted overwhelmingly for the Democratic candidate each time, but if turnout levels had held at 2012 levels, that is 62,000 total votes. If you keep the same 69/31 percentage, that is a net pickup of 23,560 votes for Clinton and she wins the state, and a little more than double that if we go back to 2008 turnout levels - ACORN was defunded in 2009, if I recall?
I can probably go through Philly and Pittsburgh and find similar results for Pennsylvania.
Yes, the suburbs are a problem, but voter suppression/turnout in the cities is a huge problem as well without an ACORN like organization to help manage/coordinate GOTV.
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I believe the situation we're in demonstrates the lifetime appointment rule is seriously flawed.
onlyadream
Jun 2018
#13
nobody made jill stein voters vote for her, we had the antidote and those voters decided to screw us
beachbum bob
Jun 2018
#4
We are seeing a coup organized by the dumpsters and their minions, Putin and his minions...
debsy
Jun 2018
#7
But, but..... I heard that it was all Nancy Pelosi's fault for "not being a good leader"
ehrnst
Jun 2018
#10
"I wonder if they would have made a difference in places like Detroit, Philly, Pittsburgh.."
BumRushDaShow
Jun 2018
#22