Schumer made the classic Dem mistake of accepting the RWs coded language talking points (Reply #64)

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sun Jul 1, 2018, 01:19 PM

pecosbob (6,718 posts)

64. Schumer made the classic Dem mistake of accepting the RWs coded language talking points

instead of correcting their misuse of terms and restating the issue in clear, unambiguous language. Ms. Waters use of the term harass was of course intended to indicate non-violent shunning of these unprincipled, uncivilized people. The right wing media immediately chose to frame the term as a threat of violence. Schumer's acceptance of the term as such and failure to re-frame was a cardinal mistake in countering RW propaganda.

Adding to that, this spinelessness is not the kind of thing I want to hear from party leadership.

Does anyone in this party understand how the game is being played by the other guys?

Bottom line...Dem leadership seriously needs to grow a pair, but THIS IS MOST DEFINITELY NOT THE TIME FOR CHANGES IN LEADERSHIP. Seriously, folks...changing leadership heading into mid-terms? Wouldn't the other guys just love that.

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85 replies	Author	Time	Post
Commentary: Maxine Waters deserves better from her party [View all]	babylonsister	Jun 2018	OP
ImWithMaxine.	oasis	Jun 2018	#1
Me too! Leadership should embrace Maxine and her policy of resistance	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jun 2018	#51
"Reclaiming my time".	oasis	Jul 2018	#57
Why I absolutely LOVE Maxine and stand with her!! Back down? Fuck no... give em hell Maxine!!	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jul 2018	#58
I am definitely with Maxine. Called my Senator, Schumer, to	jrthin	Jun 2018	#2
all dems who stick their necks out are getting pounded on talk radio all day	certainot	Jun 2018	#45
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Let Maxine Lead! #ImWithMaxine	sharedvalues	Jun 2018	#4
She is phenomenal and has been such a strong voice.	NY_20th	Jun 2018	#5
I am with Maxine 100%.	Chickensoup	Jun 2018	#6
Post removed	Post removed	Jun 2018	#7
Take a wrong turn? n/t	femmedem	Jun 2018	#8
No, that has been my view al along	Chickensoup	Jul 2018	#61
My reply wasn't to you but to a troll whose post has since been removed.	femmedem	Jul 2018	#85
If the Democratic leadership won't stand up for one of their own, why should we believe	scarletwoman	Jun 2018	#9
I'm with you. nt	Ferrets are Cool	Jun 2018	#23
Great question. Many already don't, which is why	KPN	Jun 2018	#27
Right on!! FUCK civility!! Go Maxine!!	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jul 2018	#59
Yes she does	ellie	Jun 2018	#10
#I'mWithMaxine	MustLoveBeagles	Jun 2018	#11
That's my conclusion also.	sprinkleeninow	Jun 2018	#36
The part of MLK's letter that white progressives seem to forget	Tarc	Jun 2018	#12
Absolutely dead on	shadowmayor	Jun 2018	#15
Bingo and thread winner!	BumRushDaShow	Jun 2018	#26
Thanks for.this awesome post and quote from MLK.	KPN	Jun 2018	#29
Excellent ... (nt)	mr_lebowski	Jun 2018	#56
This is why MLK was so special. He was definitely a few Jedi levels higher than most. nt	Lucky Luciano	Jul 2018	#67
Exactly, they want to bring a butter knife	radius777	Jul 2018	#76
Democratic leadership needs a good beating.	The Wizard	Jun 2018	#13
I agree with everything you said, Wizard!	pazzyanne	Jun 2018	#20
Agree 100%. What the hell do we do about it though?	Ferrets are Cool	Jun 2018	#24
Change the leadership.	Tatiana	Jun 2018	#40
At this point, I'm ready for a change in leadership. So long as...	Garrett78	Jun 2018	#47
Pow!	Duppers	Jun 2018	#39
The Republicans change the goal posts when people are civil.	femmedem	Jun 2018	#14
Tire of our party of good germans	dembotoz	Jun 2018	#16
BSanders defended SSanders, too..	Cha	Jun 2018	#22
Dinner is different from destruction of a democracy	dembotoz	Jun 2018	#30
I'm with Maxine.	CrispyQ	Jun 2018	#17
I'm CERTAINLY with Maxine.	calimary	Jun 2018	#18
Maxine rocks!!!	pazzyanne	Jun 2018	#19
Yeah, I am hereby calling out Schumer and Nancy	Cha	Jun 2018	#21
Right on!	Kath2	Jun 2018	#31
Hey Kath.. we Have Maxine's Back!	Cha	Jun 2018	#35
Always!	Kath2	Jun 2018	#38
I'm going to repeat what I posted the other day about "political differences."	Garrett78	Jun 2018	#49
Exactly, Garrett.. I was just thinking that	Cha	Jun 2018	#52
Exactly, Cha. Since when is putting kids in cages a mere "political difference"?	SunSeeker	Jul 2018	#68
It's like they weren't Thinking it Through..	Cha	Jul 2018	#81
What the hell is wrong with my Dem leaders??	Hekate	Jun 2018	#25
I know.. even if they disagree they don't	Cha	Jun 2018	#41
This sort of shit is one of the reasons why the GOP has been allowed to become so extreme.	Garrett78	Jun 2018	#46
It is a big problem.. it pisses off. The	Cha	Jun 2018	#50
Good idea. I'll call her office on Monday. I'll also call Pelosi's and Schumer's.	Garrett78	Jun 2018	#53
Thank You!	Cha	Jun 2018	#54
I stand with Maxine!	Raster	Jun 2018	#28
Max-out Maxine!	JHB	Jun 2018	#32
As if what she said was outrageous.	Garrett78	Jun 2018	#33
Like it or not, agree with it or not, the dems are perceived as weak.	CrispyQ	Jul 2018	#75
I completely agree.	mountain grammy	Jun 2018	#34
It is good she has a voice and uses it, and speaks Direct, about what she has to say.	Civic Justice	Jun 2018	#37
K&R! nt	Mountain Mule	Jun 2018	#42
This message was self-deleted by its author	Duppers	Jun 2018	#43
I'm with Maxine!	smirkymonkey	Jun 2018	#44
I'm with Maxine...	HipChick	Jun 2018	#48
I'm with Maxine!	mr_lebowski	Jun 2018	#55
Kick	oasis	Jul 2018	#60
She did her part. Those who criticized her did theirs.	gulliver	Jul 2018	#62
I'm with Maxine	watoos	Jul 2018	#63
Schumer made the classic Dem mistake of accepting the RWs coded language talking points	pecosbob	Jul 2018	#64
The party (base Dems) are with Maxine.	SunSeeker	Jul 2018	#65
Go Maxine! Nancy and Chuck - step aside. nt	Lucky Luciano	Jul 2018	#66
i agree with Schumer	pintobean	Jul 2018	#69
Now Republicans are Demanding Political Correctness? What a Joke!	dlk	Jul 2018	#70
THE ENTIRE COUNTRY DESERVES BETTER.	usaf-vet	Jul 2018	#71
I stand with Maxine.	cate94	Jul 2018	#72
This is no time for civility... I'M WITH MAXINE!!! YOU GO, GIRLFRIEND!	secondwind	Jul 2018	#73
Discourse equals remorse. The message right now should be VOTE.	McCamy Taylor	Jul 2018	#74
schumer and pelosi	heaven05	Jul 2018	#77
I do not understand why some people	Chickensoup	Jul 2018	#78
and Maxine's comment was about resisting	radius777	Jul 2018	#79
We need more people like Maxine in Congress.	jalan48	Jul 2018	#80
By not supporting Maxine, Schumer and other Ds are basically admitting that	stopbush	Jul 2018	#82
Disagreement in our ranks is a great healthy thing to have, at least in the democratic ...	SWBTATTReg	Jul 2018	#83
"pulling together" is essential if the Democratic Party is to survive.	oasis	Jul 2018	#84

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