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Garrett78

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11. But what they advocate for already has a name. Social Democracy.
Wed Aug 8, 2018, 11:32 PM
Aug 2018

And trying to convince people that *your* version of socialism isn't the same as the long-standing, well-established and polarizing form of socialism is just about the worst political strategy I can imagine.

Especially when - once again - your version already has a name (Social Democracy) that would gain much more acceptance.

I have wondered that too. honest.abe Aug 2018 #1
It's indisputably more accurate. Garrett78 Aug 2018 #4
bernie 2020 campaign? nt msongs Aug 2018 #2
Huh? Garrett78 Aug 2018 #6
Pitting socialism vs capitalism is so 19th century. DemocracyMouse Aug 2018 #32
Hope you get some answers! Cha Aug 2018 #3
Because we need a lot of help with messaging. zaj Aug 2018 #5
Naive people taking the bait from Republicans and letting them frame their movement. bettyellen Aug 2018 #7
Republicans will affix the label "socialism" to anyone left of Limbaugh. Garrett78 Aug 2018 #8
Democratic Socialism and Socialism aren't the same leftstreet Aug 2018 #9
But what they advocate for already has a name. Social Democracy. Garrett78 Aug 2018 #11
Am 100% with you. EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2018 #30
Actually, the Socialist party of America believes in democratic socialism, according to its pnwmom Aug 2018 #12
Can you imagine the fun GOOGLE TRANSLATE would have with this? pangaia Aug 2018 #20
LOL. You're right! I'd love to see that. pnwmom Aug 2018 #27
Goggle coukd translate pretty well in Georgian. pangaia Aug 2018 #34
Democratic Socialist. Adjective, Noun. GulfCoast66 Aug 2018 #13
Democratic Socialist of America seem to be legitimate socialists TomSlick Aug 2018 #10
That's why I said that the prominent ones, at least, don't seem to be... Garrett78 Aug 2018 #14
Really. You think Bernie does not know the meaning of Socialist? GulfCoast66 Aug 2018 #23
I haven't heard him advocate for actual socialism. He seems to be wanting to re-define the term. Garrett78 Aug 2018 #33
Or, maybe they really ARE conventional socialists, and just view social programs pnwmom Aug 2018 #17
A white haired Not Democrat Stinky The Clown Aug 2018 #15
I agree. Why they think it's a good idea to try to educate a couple hundred million pnwmom Aug 2018 #16
You'd be hard-pressed to come up with a worse political strategy. Garrett78 Aug 2018 #21
They Seem More Stuck on Image and Labels than on actually getting Stuff done JI7 Aug 2018 #18
Just another damn way to divide the Democratic Party and make the big tent smaller... Hekate Aug 2018 #19
On that note, even self-identifying as a Social Democrat probably wouldn't be... Garrett78 Aug 2018 #22
Agreed. I only call myself that on DU. GulfCoast66 Aug 2018 #24
I agree. Progressive Democrat is clear enough. pnwmom Aug 2018 #25
Indeed. What Democrat of any stripe doesn't support social programs? Hekate Aug 2018 #28
Did you see the list posted by a short-timer of "Progressive Candidates" who won? Hekate Aug 2018 #26
This is a very old article but it speaks radical noodle Aug 2018 #29
It's a group making up new definitions for words. Those in the group know the new meaning, betsuni Aug 2018 #31
There are terms that need to be reassessed. Garrett78 Aug 2018 #35
My point is that words are given new meanings, and of course it's really odd and counterproductive. betsuni Aug 2018 #42
I was just pointing out that there are instances where accepted meanings need to change... Garrett78 Aug 2018 #43
because socialism is not communism. as if that matters w/ the new GOOP. pansypoo53219 Aug 2018 #36
But socialism does involve the government controlling the means of production, pnwmom Aug 2018 #40
If you genuinely want to know the difference democrank Aug 2018 #37
Wow, how many threads on this, just talking past each other? Socailsm has been defined and redefined JCanete Aug 2018 #38
The Democratic Socialist Party USA believes in socialism -- not just Nordic style social programs. pnwmom Aug 2018 #41
I suspect those young people don't know what it means. Garrett78 Aug 2018 #45
Let me try & answer your question SkyDancer Aug 2018 #39
It's really simple. Hardline Socialists have embraced the old capitalist trick of "Re-branding" ! OnDoutside Aug 2018 #44
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