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Hekate

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25. The problems discussed in this thread seem to be inborn, with no source & no cure...
Sun Sep 16, 2018, 04:22 AM
Sep 2018

I have read thoughtful essays (even some here) by psychologists and psychotherapists that work in institutional settings such as prisons. They all agree that in their experience an ordinary criminal can be rehabilitated, change their ways of thinking and behaving; but that a sociopath/psychopath will never change -- not with drugs and not with psychotherapy. It is as the former spouses in this thread have testified: they think there is nothing wrong with them, and they don't give a flyng fig what you think or feel.

Many walk the streets in business suits and occupy board rooms in tall buildings. They get elected to political office or start mega-churches. I'm sure they are represented in the military as well. They are good at what they do, and are rewarded by society for their performance. The fact that the path of their progress is littered with broken people they have crushed seems to be beside the point. They are very functional -- and again, they think there is nothing wrong with them, and that other people are just tools and fools. They can get away with this for a lifetime -- and if they are busted for their behavior (#MeToo), they still will believe there is nothing wrong with them.

It seems to me that there is something physically wrong in the wiring of their brains, and that there is no "cure." Society needs to be protected from them more than they need to be compassionately understood. Or rather, by all means compassionately understand the sociopath, but only after you put him in jail or help his wife and kids escape.

Great insights, jodymarie PJMcK Sep 2018 #1
"All this time trying to analyze Trump...wasted time." Merlot Sep 2018 #2
+1. yonder Sep 2018 #4
+1 Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #5
+1 to yours also. llmart Sep 2018 #16
Not wasted, but def agree with conclusion: No changing tRump; he is baked-in, no introspection. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2018 #7
John Dean's Conservatives without Conscience is a great book that discusses the psychology that Pepsidog Sep 2018 #3
Funny, I just said the same about fux spews on a different thread. BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2018 #10
Sure is. I am stunned by the level of ignorance especially in DC lawmakers. Pepsidog Sep 2018 #12
FYI Liberalagogo Sep 2018 #6
+1000000! And tRUMP knows that. It's why he's so defensive about the election #'s. Like, who is SammyWinstonJack Sep 2018 #15
Traitor Tot Lost by TEN MILLION Votes if you include the third-party votes OMGWTF Sep 2018 #36
Same here. Tucker08087 Sep 2018 #8
Man! Tucker08087 Sep 2018 #9
This is terrifying. Did you get out again, after he found you? n/t Tess49 Sep 2018 #11
Yes. Moved again. Tucker08087 Sep 2018 #34
Sorry you have to live like this. My anxiety would be through the roof! n/t Tess49 Sep 2018 #35
Well, I certainly suffer from PTSD! Tucker08087 Sep 2018 #38
I can only imagine. Hope he stays far away from you. n/t Tess49 Sep 2018 #40
You're never really safe until they're dead and buried. Be vigilant. Texin Sep 2018 #48
I lived with a sociopath too. BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #13
Hopefully, one day we'll hear those read aloud into the Congessional Record ... eppur_se_muova Sep 2018 #14
What will he do when cornered? Start WWIII? I am hoping we get thru the next week... Hekate Sep 2018 #19
Right now he is using a hurricane as a distraction BigmanPigman Sep 2018 #22
K & R worstexever Sep 2018 #17
Shortly after Dipstick Donnie did the Wellstone ruled Sep 2018 #18
Trump doesn't understand Trump. kwassa Sep 2018 #20
To me, the most frightening thing about psychopaths of Trump's type is.... KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #26
At times I feel I'm reliving my marriage Canoe52 Sep 2018 #21
I Used to be Married to a Psychopath and I Feel Your Pain dlk Sep 2018 #23
Our culture is part of the problem & I don't pretend to know the answer. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #24
The problems discussed in this thread seem to be inborn, with no source & no cure... Hekate Sep 2018 #25
Thanks, Hekate. This is certainly worthy of open-minded discussion. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2018 #27
majority of americans do not have direct contact with a sociopath combined with serial lying and beachbum bob Sep 2018 #28
My father. no_hypocrisy Sep 2018 #29
imagine if your Dad and my ex jodymarie aimee Sep 2018 #31
Dad had a pretty good act for the rest of the world. no_hypocrisy Sep 2018 #33
My mother is a psycho bitch from hell OMGWTF Sep 2018 #37
I hear you about the latter. no_hypocrisy Sep 2018 #39
Get a cat and put the ashes... 3catwoman3 Sep 2018 #44
I got one of those too. Never could figure out demigoddess Sep 2018 #47
Great post, except that Trump _has_ had to get out of a jam, several times ProfessorPlum Sep 2018 #30
Peter had no access to Russian oligarchs !! jodymarie aimee Sep 2018 #32
This entire thread is an eye opener and needs to be kicked lunatica Sep 2018 #41
Mueller can't do jack CousinIT Sep 2018 #42
I have contended for a couple of years SCantiGOP Sep 2018 #43
Yes, Trump has mental problems extvbroadcaster Sep 2018 #45
Your last sentence is chilling, and so spot on. GentryDixon Sep 2018 #46
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