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NRaleighLiberal

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Sun Sep 23, 2018, 11:01 PM Sep 2018

TPM - Marshall - "Things Moving Very Fast" [View all]

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/things-moving-very-fast

By Josh Marshall
September 23, 2018 10:07 pm
As you may have already seen, all hell has broken loose over the last hour or so in the already chaotic and ugly Kavanaugh confirmation process. For now I’m simply going to flag and link to the main points. I’ll try to put my thoughts together on them later.

The big new thing is this article by Ronan Farrow and Jane Mayer in The New Yorker. This is a new accusation which the article and even the accuser concedes has gaps and is based on incomplete memories. The authors are very precise on what’s known, remembered and what’s not. The gist is a sex-charged drinking game in a Yale dorm room when Kavanaugh and a woman named Deborah Ramirez were freshmen. As she remembers it, the men focused the calls to drink on her. She got drunk. There was teasing of her with what sounds like a dildo. Then Kavanaugh put his penis in her face and she pushed him away. The details are so meticulously sketched out – what people do or don’t remember, etc. – I won’t describe more than that. If you haven’t, you should read it.

In some ways what seems at least as significant are details buried deep in the story. One is that Mark Judge, Kavanaugh’s alleged accomplice, apparently admitted to a girlfriend in college what sounds like a gang rape he participated in in high school.

Here’s the passage.

After seeing Judge’s denial, Elizabeth Rasor, who met Judge at Catholic University and was in a relationship with him for about three years, said that she felt morally obligated to challenge his account that “ ‘no horseplay’ took place at Georgetown Prep with women.” Rasor stressed that “under normal circumstances, I wouldn’t reveal information that was told in confidence,” but, she said, “I can’t stand by and watch him lie.” In an interview with The New Yorker, she said, “Mark told me a very different story.” Rasor recalled that Judge had told her ashamedly of an incident that involved him and other boys taking turns having sex with a drunk woman. Rasor said that Judge seemed to regard it as fully consensual. She said that Judge did not name others involved in the incident, and she has no knowledge that Kavanaugh participated. But Rasor was disturbed by the story and noted that it undercut Judge’s protestations about the sexual innocence of Georgetown Prep. (Barbara Van Gelder, an attorney for Judge, said that he “categorically denies” the account related by Rasor. Van Gelder said that Judge had no further comment.)

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