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scipan

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46. Red State Democrats Can Do Better Than Joe Manchin
Mon Oct 8, 2018, 07:56 PM
Oct 2018
But Manchin’s vote should call old party strategies into question. If the Democratic Party can’t count on its own senators for votes as morally pivotal as the Kavanaugh confirmation, its big tent might just be too big. Its tolerance for conservative members might not be as pragmatic as it appears, either. Since Trump took office in 2016, a number of Democrats to Manchin’s left have performed surprisingly well so-called red states, winning some unexpected primary elections and polling well against Republican candidates. The Democratic candidate for Florida governor, Andrew Gillum, has been campaigning on Medicare for All and still leads Republican Ron DeSantis by four points in a recent Florida Southern College poll. In Georgia’s gubernatorial race, progressive Stacey Abrams has locked Republican Brian Kemp in a dead heat. In other races, recent polling suggested that progressive congressional candidates Jess King and Randy Bryce, running in Pennsylvania’s 11th congressional district and Wisconsin’s first congressional district respectively, have closed gaps with their Republican opponents to single digits. And in one of the year’s most surprising contests, Democrat Beto O’Rourke has trapped Ted Cruz in a race for his political life.

Even in West Virginia, support for Trump doesn’t necessarily guarantee support for down-ballot Republican candidates, or for conservative politics as a category. Trump won 68 percent of the vote in 2016. But less than half of the state’s registered voters actually voted for Trump. The president won 489,671 of the state’s registered voters, out of a 2016 total of 1,274,887. In the state’s conservative third congressional district, Democrat Richard Ojeda has managed to turn his race against Republican Carol Miller into a true toss-up. That’s partly due to Ojeda’s particular idiosyncrasies: Like many of his would-be constituents, he voted for Trump, though it’s a decision he says he now regrets. As a state legislator, his unyielding support for the teachers’ strike that gripped the state in February and March earned him an energized following that very well could put him in office. Politically, Ojeda now has more in common with Bernie Sanders than he does with Joe Manchin – and that tilt to the left has hardly harmed his prospects.


http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/10/red-state-democrats-can-do-better-than-joe-manchin.html

I don't disagree with OP but the idea that we are stuck with Repub lite senators like him is short-sighted and wrong, I think. Hope he draws some really good primary opponents next time (IF he is still a dem).
Elect Democrats. Salviati Oct 2018 #1
We have to realize there are three types of Democrats and only one type of Republican only my opinion Oct 2018 #29
Party in power today is not reflective of the GOP in the past dwayneb Oct 2018 #38
I agree 1000 % only my opinion Oct 2018 #43
We can't afford party purity right now. Not in deeply red states. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #2
Joe Manchin may not be what we like but he's what we got. In It to Win It Oct 2018 #3
Thank you! NurseJackie Oct 2018 #4
Gotcha. dchill Oct 2018 #5
Of course. Then primary him when we get the chance manor321 Oct 2018 #6
You realize that he didn't switch Parties when he could have in 2015...or 2017? brooklynite Oct 2018 #12
Primarying an incumbent weakens him for the general. It's not helpful, pnwmom Oct 2018 #24
K & R LAS14 Oct 2018 #7
Lets dump the POS and put our efforts elsewhere. nt Snotcicles Oct 2018 #8
By all means. let's! But not this November. beastie boy Oct 2018 #18
Those are EXCELLENT reasons! CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2018 #9
Backed into a corner on this one... toddwv Oct 2018 #10
Yea, yea, yea. LisaL Oct 2018 #11
Feinstein has seniority on Judiciary Retrograde Oct 2018 #13
The list is purely hypothetical. beastie boy Oct 2018 #19
Yeah, vote for someone who completely betrayed the Democratic Party and all women. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2018 #14
How exactly to you propose getting a "real Democrat" in his place when the election is in one month OhioBlue Oct 2018 #15
Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #21
The state of W VA voted for Trump by 68% to Hillary's 26%. It is a miracle pnwmom Oct 2018 #25
If you primary him with someone more liberal, they will lose. WV isn't going to elect anyone to the OhioBlue Oct 2018 #31
Hopeless. yardwork Oct 2018 #35
Three questions beastie boy Oct 2018 #17
yeah, if it means Chuck Schumer would be majority leader it makes ALL THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE because JI7 Oct 2018 #30
The primaries are over. yardwork Oct 2018 #34
Glad I don't have to make that choice.I have no problem with anyone voting for Autumn Oct 2018 #39
And, one other VERY important reason. GoCubsGo Oct 2018 #16
If I lived in West Virginia, I certainly would. sandensea Oct 2018 #20
Yes, then be ready to primary him in six years. That could give an opponent plenty.... JoeOtterbein Oct 2018 #22
I'm glad I don't have to vote for him. mountain grammy Oct 2018 #23
I wouldn't be surprised. scipan Oct 2018 #44
the problem with Dems pretending to be repugs is that they don't bring in progressive votes elmac Oct 2018 #26
Glad That I don't live in ... LenaBaby61 Oct 2018 #27
This article is everything underthematrix Oct 2018 #28
In a 51-49 senate, he will flip Thunderbeast Oct 2018 #32
He's their ace in the hole. n/t scipan Oct 2018 #45
its not counter-intuitive now. He's better than a republican. It was damn counter-intuitive and JCanete Oct 2018 #33
We need all of the Democrats possible Gothmog Oct 2018 #36
Almost none of us here on DU live in West Virginia. MineralMan Oct 2018 #37
Keep Manchin around... DAMANgoldberg Oct 2018 #40
Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #41
Heidi Heitkamp progressoid Oct 2018 #42
This kdmorris Oct 2018 #47
Red State Democrats Can Do Better Than Joe Manchin scipan Oct 2018 #46
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