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Hekate

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61. My late MIL was Viennese. She said it always baffled her that Jews were simultaneously accused ...
Sun Oct 28, 2018, 04:13 PM
Oct 2018

...of being Communists (i.e. against all capitalism) and being The Bankers (i.e. holding all the capital). Her ironic comment was along the lines of "Good trick on our part, eh?"

As for how and why the Jews were made into forever-bogeymen by haters, we watched it happen to Hillary Clinton before our very eyes. She -- a white Christian woman -- was turned into The Other because it was useful to somebody, and they will continue after she is cold in her grave. They did it to "Liberals" as well -- right in front of us.

How much more so the Jews, a whole people labeled as The Other some 2,000 years ago -- so useful every time some despot needs a distraction and/or needs to stir up a mob. All that's needed is to keep a subcritical mass of people simmering and a critical mass of "polite society" willing to keep using or ignoring casual slurs. There you have the poisonous brew waiting to boil over.

It seems to have nothing to do with reason and everything to do with how useful it is to have a scapegoat handy in times of stress.

I used to search for the origins and history of anti-Semitism in an effort to understand how Hitler happened. I still highly recommend this exercise to any who have not done it.

But at some point in the last decade or so I realized it is useful to someone, and started asking instead: Who does it serve?

2 thousand years edhopper Oct 2018 #1
Yes. That is certainly part of it. MineralMan Oct 2018 #4
Now the Lutherans pass divestment resolutions against Israel Mosby Oct 2018 #58
'Them's the people whut kilt r Christ!' Cirque du So-What Oct 2018 #2
That has been repeated again and again through MineralMan Oct 2018 #20
When I used that argument Cirque du So-What Oct 2018 #21
Yes. Arguing with religious believers rarely has a good outcome. MineralMan Oct 2018 #24
Jesus had to die in order for Christianity to have a basis The Genealogist Oct 2018 #57
You are seriously recommending Wikipedia as the place to learn about antisemitism? oberliner Oct 2018 #3
I am, yes, as a starting point. MineralMan Oct 2018 #5
Why have you not returned to answer my questions? MineralMan Oct 2018 #17
I'm still waiting for your response. MineralMan Oct 2018 #25
Still no response? Do you have nothing to say? MineralMan Oct 2018 #48
I guess you're not going to elaborate on what you implied. MineralMan Oct 2018 #63
Even though the world likes to pretend religion doesn't concern them blugbox Oct 2018 #6
Even more confusing is that it is such a small group. MineralMan Oct 2018 #7
I agree. I would venture to guess that most of these people don't even know any Jewish people. smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #50
I'm sure you're right, or they don't know that they know some. MineralMan Oct 2018 #51
That's what I think, too. CrispyQ Oct 2018 #30
"Our fight is with the races that represent money." dalton99a Oct 2018 #8
Adolf Hitler lied. He needed a scapegoat, and MineralMan Oct 2018 #9
It's always good to review what Hitler's Luftwaffe boss Goering said in his jail cell interviews DFW Oct 2018 #40
Sometimes I do wonder if hatred is endemic to the human species. That some/many need a target RKP5637 Oct 2018 #10
That's a good question. It's not one that has a simple answer, though. MineralMan Oct 2018 #12
The answer is easy. It's monsters like Hitler & Trump who inspire such violence mtnsnake Oct 2018 #11
Maybe Trump and the Republicans think a state of fear will benefit them on election day. jalan48 Oct 2018 #13
Fear of "Others" is a common part of populism. MineralMan Oct 2018 #16
True and from that standpoint violence against Jews makes sense in the lead-up to the election. jalan48 Oct 2018 #18
Yes, and we need to thwart it with a massive turnout that MineralMan Oct 2018 #19
Totally agree. Election day should be interesting. I think we will need watchers at the polls to jalan48 Oct 2018 #22
Everyone should report any intimidation to the authorities MineralMan Oct 2018 #26
Fortunately we have vote by mail here in Oregon so there are no polling places on election day. jalan48 Oct 2018 #29
That happens in every election, sadly. MineralMan Oct 2018 #31
It's similar here as Oregon is a blue state. It does occur every election but I'm wondering how jalan48 Oct 2018 #33
I don't know, to tell you the truth. MineralMan Oct 2018 #37
I have had to explain this to Chinese-born friends MaryMagdaline Oct 2018 #14
It is hard to explain to anyone who has a different philosophical MineralMan Oct 2018 #15
It does make sense to a pragmatically evil political group Jersey Devil Oct 2018 #23
I don't know. But it's getting worse, along with other attacks against The Other. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #27
Thanks for that link. It's an excellent editorial piece. MineralMan Oct 2018 #34
Most violence is irrational malaise Oct 2018 #28
I think all violence that is not defensive is senseless. MineralMan Oct 2018 #35
Early Christian history explains it. marylandblue Oct 2018 #32
Well, that's pretty true for early Christian Gentiles, anyhow. MineralMan Oct 2018 #36
The pagan Romans were relatively tolerant marylandblue Oct 2018 #42
I didn't grow up with anti-semitism. smirkymonkey Oct 2018 #54
Nor did I. MineralMan Oct 2018 #64
That was probably an initial cause, but in recent years The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #45
Hatreds remain even after the original reasons for them are forgotten. marylandblue Oct 2018 #49
Unfortunately, that's true. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #60
jews were considered a race Mosby Oct 2018 #59
Mel Gibson will tell you all about it with his friend Jesus Corvo Bianco Oct 2018 #38
Sure. There are all sorts of examples of people fomenting prejudice MineralMan Oct 2018 #39
Jesus was a rabbi. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #41
My two cents worth lunatica Oct 2018 #43
Yes, small minorities make excellent scapegoats. MineralMan Oct 2018 #44
Correction. Jews are not 2% of the world population, we are .2%. Behind the Aegis Oct 2018 #46
Thank you for correcting that. I guess I was thinking about the US. MineralMan Oct 2018 #47
Antisemites believe that despite their low numbers, that Jews control... Caliman73 Oct 2018 #52
The looney idea that they are running everything treestar Oct 2018 #53
No, it makes no sense whatsover The Genealogist Oct 2018 #55
For the same reason it makes no sense to commit violence against any ethnicity. liberal N proud Oct 2018 #56
My late MIL was Viennese. She said it always baffled her that Jews were simultaneously accused ... Hekate Oct 2018 #61
I think the thing is that they are a small minority MineralMan Oct 2018 #62
Yep Hekate Oct 2018 #65
Christian antisemitism has deep roots. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2018 #66
Yes, and the assembly of the biblical canon solidified MineralMan Oct 2018 #67
Yep. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2018 #68
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