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JHan

(10,173 posts)
37. it sure helps when you buy into anti pelosi memes, there's a reason she's been a target.
Tue Nov 13, 2018, 03:43 PM
Nov 2018

There is nothing comparable to the derangement Nancy receives. Nothing.

Gephardt didn't experience anything close to this and I can name others. Consistently, the negatives McConnell and Ryan and others receive are aligned with their party's negativity rating.

The situation with Nancy is a different kettle of fish and it IS fucking sexism.

And as a young woman, I am fed up of people trying to pass this off as some kind of normal shit rather than the stinkingly shitty dysfunctional crap it is ...

The first female speaker of the House has become the most effec­tive congressional leader of modern times—and, not coinciden­tally, the most vilified.

In 2009, Pelosi persuaded deficit-wary Blue Dog Democrats to back Barack Obama’s stimulus package, and it passed without a single Republican vote. The following year, when Rahm Emanuel, then the White House chief of staff, suggested scaling back health-care reform after the Democrats’ surprise Senate loss in Massachusetts, Pelosi insisted that Obama maintain his goal of universal coverage. She enraged her pro-choice allies by allowing a vote on an amendment prohibiting women insured through the law’s health-care exchanges from receiving government-subsidized abortions. But that gave antiabortion Democrats cover to support the bill, which passed with nary a Republican vote.

These victories led Thomas Mann, who studies Congress at the Brookings Institution, to call Pelosi the “strongest and most effective speaker of modern times.” And even after being relegated to minority leader when Republicans took the House in 2010, she kept winning legislative fights. In the summer of 2015, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and the Republican Party launched a mammoth lobbying campaign to kill Obama’s nuclear agreement with Iran. Pelosi quickly secured the votes to prevent Republicans from overturning the agreement, thus checkmating the deal’s foes.

In addition to being a masterful legislative tactician, the 77-year-old Pelosi is, in Politico’s words, “the most successful nonpresidential political fundraiser in U.S. history.” Yet many of her colleagues want her gone. In November 2016, almost a third of House Democrats voted to depose her as leader. Another coup attempt erupted last summer. Why so much discontent with a woman who has proved so good at her job? Maybe because many Democrats think Pelosi’s unpopularity undermines their chances of winning back the House. Why is she so unpopular? Because powerful women politicians usually are. Therein lies the tragedy. Nancy Pelosi does her job about as well as anyone could. But because she’s a woman, she may not be doing it well enough.


So fuck all the noise.

Pelosi damn well better be Speaker. [View all] Are_grits_groceries Nov 2018 OP
Agreed Evergreen Emerald Nov 2018 #1
You're totally right! shraby Nov 2018 #2
The only argument I've ever seen against her is... Mister Ed Nov 2018 #3
And they won't treat the next Democratic speaker Mr.Bill Nov 2018 #9
"she is a "divisive figure" IOW republicans hate her because workinclasszero Nov 2018 #18
Here's another opportunity to prove them wrong about her! flibbitygiblets Nov 2018 #21
:) Agree. We don't, of course. It's not our choice, Hortensis Nov 2018 #56
Look at the big picture Guppy Nov 2018 #4
Engage them yes..... Little Star Nov 2018 #6
Take leadership? Are_grits_groceries Nov 2018 #10
No more than one year for Nancy Guppy Nov 2018 #13
Reviled mainly by people who are offended by aging women. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2018 #16
Her negatives are right up there with Mitch McConnell and Trump Guppy Nov 2018 #19
If you're going to claim she's as bad as mcCONnell, I'm gonna need some sources. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2018 #26
you can find them anywhere Guppy Nov 2018 #27
it sure helps when you buy into anti pelosi memes, there's a reason she's been a target. JHan Nov 2018 #37
She just has high negatives Guppy Nov 2018 #43
I just posed this elsewhere, JHan Nov 2018 #44
She should be the speaker of the house for one year Guppy Nov 2018 #47
She's admitted she won't be there long, as far as I recall.. JHan Nov 2018 #49
Guppy, I'd be ashamed to be lying with the kind of Hortensis Nov 2018 #57
I am not aligning myself with republicans Guppy Nov 2018 #58
This. 1000 times, THIS. Hamlette Nov 2018 #45
A year? Maybe, or maybe not. I think it is better to know what a year from now looks like Wintryjade Nov 2018 #50
Wrong!!! pazzyanne Nov 2018 #17
Steny Hoyer... Cheviteau Nov 2018 #31
This isn't about age or branding. It's about knowledge and experience pnwmom Nov 2018 #23
Some don't want to look at the big picture LiberalLovinLug Nov 2018 #29
This young woman needs to calm down before she destroys what we have done this fall. redstatebluegirl Nov 2018 #5
nine out of ten trump supporters agree, nancy must go nt msongs Nov 2018 #7
Ten of ten Jill Stein/Sarandonuts are on board with that. oasis Nov 2018 #11
I could not agree more. tymorial Nov 2018 #8
YES but get her a SPOKESPERSON! BamaRefugee Nov 2018 #12
There are plenty of other places in House leadership where a young person can have a public presence pnwmom Nov 2018 #24
So add this to the list of places it can happen! BLANKET COVERAGE featuring new faces, and Pelosi BamaRefugee Nov 2018 #34
Making Groceries Roy Rolling Nov 2018 #14
What's this protest actually about? Is it just against Pelosi overall? Texin Nov 2018 #15
republican hate her safeinOhio Nov 2018 #20
Either way I will trust in our new House. Amimnoch Nov 2018 #22
I agree, grits... sagetea Nov 2018 #25
This all reminds me too much PatSeg Nov 2018 #28
PLUS.. Third in like to the White House demands annabanana Nov 2018 #30
Yes jon k Nov 2018 #32
Well, maybe. Firestorm49 Nov 2018 #33
Beto O'Rourke won't be in Congress next year. NT Eric J in MN Nov 2018 #36
After there are candidates Eric J in MN Nov 2018 #35
Name them. Nt Are_grits_groceries Nov 2018 #39
Barbara Lee has experience. NT Eric J in MN Nov 2018 #48
I'd love her as speaker. David__77 Nov 2018 #54
...or else Trump may actually have to put up a fight FiveGoodMen Nov 2018 #38
K&R lillypaddle Nov 2018 #40
I wonder if some people are buying in to the GOP smear campaign. Nac Mac Feegle Nov 2018 #41
I was one for a change of ledership in the House. The Liberal Lion Nov 2018 #42
I would rather see a young person of color. oldlibdem Nov 2018 #46
Pelosi knows what is up. I trust her and her leadership skills. Wintryjade Nov 2018 #51
Anyone other than Pelosi is a cave to the Rethugs. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2018 #52
Totally agree. We need the best and most knowledgeable to 'get it done' the next 2 yrs. apcalc Nov 2018 #53
Pelosi is the Democrats most effective leader now and needs to be Speaker Gothmog Nov 2018 #55
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