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Celerity

(43,122 posts)
16. I respectfully disagree
Sun Nov 25, 2018, 08:04 AM
Nov 2018

I do acknowledge that there are millions of white fundies who are not a priori racist, but the majority of them are, IMHO. They knowingly support a white nationalist carnival barker in Trump, and a Republican party that is openly racist to a staggering degree.

If they only just wanted a Christian nation, one would think they would LOVE Latinx people to pour in, as they have amongst the highest percentage of group rates in terms of being Christians.

Trump doesn't use a dog whistle, he uses a bullhorn. 80% of Evangelicals (more in some states) vote for vermin like the neo-Nazi-lite Steve King. That asshole in Virginia, Corey Stewart got 40% of the total vote, DeSantis WON in Florida and he is an open race baiter and white nationalist.

Hell ART JONES, a REAL, actual Nazi got 26% of the vote in Illinois. And he was running against the worst Democrat in Congress, the pro-life, anti-immigrant (voted against the Dream Act and for Republican border security bills), anti Obamacare, anti LGBTQ (voted for DOMA and is openly against gay marriage), anti-Obama himself (he refused to endorse him) anti stem cell research, etc etc Dan Lipinski.

Nazi Running for Congress Wants You to Know He's So Much More Than Just a Nazi

https://splinternews.com/nazi-running-for-congress-wants-you-to-know-hes-so-much-1827976962


56,000 voters in Illinois House district preferred Holocaust denier

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/11/07/holocaust-denier-neo-nazi-arthur-jones-chicago-illinois-dan-lipinski/1918933002/

CHICAGO – More than 56,000 voters in a Chicago-area congressional district cast votes Tuesday for an avowed Nazi and Holocaust denier.

Self-proclaimed Nazi Arthur Jones, running as a Republican, managed more than a quarter of the vote against Democratic Rep. Dan Lipinski in the district that includes parts of Chicago’s South Side and several neighboring suburbs.



The racial demons that help explain evangelical support for Trump

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/4/30/17301282/race-evangelicals-trump-support-gerson-atlantic-sexism-segregation-south


White evangelical Protestants continue to approve of President Donald Trump at about twice the rate of the general public, according to a recent survey by the Public Religion Research Institute. Indeed, the figure is at an all-time high, with some 75 percent expressing a positive view as of March. Debating the question of why white evangelicals hold so fast for Trump has become a pastime for commentators, given that the president’s values and behavior would appear to be anathema to conservative Christians.

Among political evangelicals, at one ideological pole stand those who purport to see a seamless connection between their agenda and that of the current chief executive. “I think evangelicals have found their dream president,” Jerry Falwell Jr. gushed last May. An oft-heard variation on this view is that Trump may be a sinner, but he’s one chosen by God for a providential mission. But then there are the prominent hand-wringers. Veteran evangelical writers like Michael Gerson, David French, and Stephen Mansfield have been wrestling with the damage this strategic partnership may be doing to a once-great religious tradition.

It is an abandonment of the evangelical path, these writers argue — to varying degrees and with different emphases — for believers who claim to care about the poor, the suffering, and the outcast, not to mention sexual morality and civic virtue, to line up behind a belligerent boor who bullies women, Mexicans, and Muslims and who has a manifestly feeble understanding of religious texts and history. It’s not that evangelicals are personally prejudiced, these writers claim; nonetheless, they find it disturbing that such voters would overlook Trump’s racism and misogyny for short-term political gains.

But these sympathetic critics fail to grapple with the idea that Trump’s racism and misogyny might actually resonate with the evangelical base, which happens to constitute about 35 percent of the GOP coalition. In fact, racism and intolerance are more woven into the fabric of evangelicalism than these Christian critics care to accept.

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i don't expect them to convert them but i do think they should stop making excuses for them JI7 Nov 2018 #1
BS. elleng Nov 2018 #2
This election should show we don't need them. brush Nov 2018 #3
Yeah, the misreading of the election results by some is infuriating. Garrett78 Nov 2018 #34
It is infuriating...these calls for bi-partisanship now that repugs lost. brush Nov 2018 #37
I'll don't think the women who support trumpty will change, just like the men won't. They iluvtennis Nov 2018 #4
I believe these people are following the direction of their ministers. nt No Vested Interest Nov 2018 #5
If the guy in the pulpit is telling them how they should vote FakeNoose Nov 2018 #51
Their husbands crazycatlady Nov 2018 #53
you can't change an asshole orleans Nov 2018 #6
Wouldn't put it that way, but personality rules, and Hortensis Nov 2018 #14
WTH? "...profound bigotry against conservatives...? brush Nov 2018 #38
Who do you imagine I'm talking about but people Hortensis Nov 2018 #44
Please, I have no pity for conservatives/racists. They've done too much damage... brush Nov 2018 #45
See? "conservatives/racists" as if the two were Hortensis Nov 2018 #46
Do you know how you're coming off? brush Nov 2018 #48
Consider this a break. Hortensis Nov 2018 #49
Thank you. brush Nov 2018 #52
I agree with you, and I think many on DU are missing the point marylandblue Nov 2018 #58
Exactly. That is just what happened this November. Hortensis Nov 2018 #63
In a lot of cases it is absolutely true Bettie Nov 2018 #66
Those white women are the most vile of all Awsi Dooger Nov 2018 #7
it is more like the 30% Party when you count in all eligible voters (including non voters) Celerity Nov 2018 #8
How about "45 only got 46%"? brush Nov 2018 #50
He got 26.5% of eligible voters, mostly men. Stop repeating lies. 58Sunliner Nov 2018 #59
Stop the crap. Everyone knows we're talking about actual voters. brush Nov 2018 #60
It isn't crap. It is called being accurate. 58Sunliner Nov 2018 #62
Whatever. It's just a play on the numbers 45 and 46. Sheesh! brush Nov 2018 #64
I just spent Thanksgiving with 2 conservative women. Lars39 Nov 2018 #9
Southern Baptist missionaries Celerity Nov 2018 #10
Heh, heh! smirkymonkey Nov 2018 #11
Hear here! TwistOneUp Nov 2018 #13
"Hear here!" - Love that. CrispyQ Nov 2018 #28
Tanks! nt TwistOneUp Nov 2018 #39
Interesting choice of terms. A 27-year-old grown man is not generally supposed to be a "kid." Glorfindel Nov 2018 #55
I'm 65. He's 27. To me, he's a kid. TwistOneUp Nov 2018 #65
He was from Washington. nolabear Nov 2018 #29
John Allen Chau? Yes, but I was replying about the poster's MIL and SIL Celerity Nov 2018 #30
I had a friend like that NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #22
I sent this to my rwnj cousin. He's a few years away from Medicare/SS. CrispyQ Nov 2018 #31
very true NewJeffCT Nov 2018 #33
I don't think color has anything to do with it. TwistOneUp Nov 2018 #12
I respectfully disagree Celerity Nov 2018 #16
Your argument ... TwistOneUp Nov 2018 #40
Agreed. Evangelicals will die rather than wake up to reality. The anti-medicine cults, the anti-educ lindysalsagal Nov 2018 #15
I showed a WWFT some of Trumps WWF videos and the Eminem Shady Convention hexola Nov 2018 #17
That's the scary part... llmart Nov 2018 #19
LOLOLOL Celerity Nov 2018 #20
I know a few of the crazies DFW Nov 2018 #18
This is less about gender and more about the New Christians Buckeyeblue Nov 2018 #21
Don't waste time in trying to convert them. Defeat them instead. (nt) Paladin Nov 2018 #23
Best slogan ever. Downtown Hound Nov 2018 #27
Hear here! nt TwistOneUp Nov 2018 #41
Agreed. They are deep into Negationism. n/t MarcA Nov 2018 #54
The thing of it is, it doesn't make sense for people who value care and fairness, like us ProfessorPlum Nov 2018 #24
And so you shine a light on them for others to see. Iggo Nov 2018 #25
Evangelicals have been taught never to think for themselves, PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2018 #26
They are a waste of our time & resources. CrispyQ Nov 2018 #32
Exactly! TwistOneUp Nov 2018 #43
I had (now deceased) family members like this crazycatlady Nov 2018 #35
I have one of these in my family. KentuckyWoman Nov 2018 #36
Easy. One word: Abortion Roland99 Nov 2018 #42
A lot of that is religion. Initech Nov 2018 #47
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2018 #56
I still maintain...OK,. hope...and they FEAR...that the White Patriarchy is libdem4life Nov 2018 #57
Yes. The emphasis needs to be on getting those who don't participate to vote. 58Sunliner Nov 2018 #61
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