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dflprincess

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42. "Third Way" was used more by Tony Blair, while Clinton talked about "New Democrats"
Mon Nov 26, 2018, 11:58 PM
Nov 2018
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/feb/10/labour.uk1


In September 1998, Mr Clinton and Mr Blair held a conference in New York to officially launch their new ideology. Both said they rejected the neo-liberal belief that everything can be left to the market, but also saw the traditional left-of-centre faith in state intervention in the economy as outdated.

In April 1999 it appeared as if Bill Clinton's New Democrats and Europe's social democrats were on the way towards a new era of productive cooperation. A round-table discussion in Washington - entitled The Third Way: Progressive Governance for the 21st Century - included the US president (Clinton), the British prime minister (Blair), the German chancellor, Gerhard Schröder; the Dutch prime minister, Wim Kok; and Italian prime minister, Massimo D'Alema.

The following June, Mr Blair succeeded in launching a joint document: Third Way - Die Neue Mitte - with Gerhard Schröder. They both agreed that they had managed to reconcile continental social democracy and that their new ideology should guarantee power for Europe's centre-left for years to come.

Three years on, however, the outlook for the third way looks bleak. A Republican is in the White House and Mr Schröder has turned away from his earlier fascination with the Clinton-Blair outlook towards a more traditional leftwing stance.


So there's Bill associating himself with "The Third Way". How progressive it was, especially when you look at Clinton's welfare reform, is open to debate.
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It is an slur aimed at Democrats by the populist left. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #12
It is a name conserva-dems gave themselves dflprincess Nov 2018 #26
No, not conservatives but economic liberal progressives who wanted to resist the populist left. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #28
Again, it's what they called themselves (see also "New Democrats" and the "DLC) dflprincess Nov 2018 #34
No it became a slur when fringe left-wing populists of the JPR type tried to protray liberals... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #36
"Third Way" was used more by Tony Blair, while Clinton talked about "New Democrats" dflprincess Nov 2018 #42
Blair and Clinton are great liberals who dragged... Small-Axe Nov 2018 #43
Two "great liberals" who called themselves "Third Way". nt dflprincess Nov 2018 #46
The nineties are calling and want the thread back. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #48
But they did refer to themselves as Third Way dflprincess Nov 2018 #49
And leftist populist now use the term as an attempt to slur liberals. Small-Axe Nov 2018 #50
Bill and Obama are conserva-dems? Kaleva Nov 2018 #38
Yes, especially when compared to New Deal & Great Society Democrats nt dflprincess Nov 2018 #41
The New Deal coalition can never come back because it relied on Southern racists.. Kaleva Nov 2018 #44
I was thinking in terms of the programs the New Deal & Great Society pushed dflprincess Nov 2018 #45
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