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Denzil_DC

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2. I don't see May and the UK Tories' current problems as "the left winning", I'm afraid.
Wed Dec 5, 2018, 05:48 PM
Dec 2018

The opposition to her proposed deal with the EU comes from left, right and center, from a variety of motives.

I'm not a great fan of Corbyn (though I've defended him from what I felt were unwarranted attacks on the UK forum in the past). He's currently playing at being as much of a Brexiter as May is - in fact, his main challenge recently has been that her negotiated version of Brexit isn't hard enough to fulfil the "wishes" of the majority who voted for it - and what alternative plans he and the Labour Party front bench have made public so far seem little or no improvement on what May's offering, and probably have less chance of being accepted by the EU.

If May does stand down next week, it might trigger an election, but it's more likely it might only trigger a Tory leadership contest. The timescales required for either aren't favorable in terms of a better outcome from the Brexit negotiations.

I hope so YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #1
I don't see May and the UK Tories' current problems as "the left winning", I'm afraid. Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #2
Interesting ZeroSomeBrains Dec 2018 #4
If you're finding it hard to follow in the US, it's not much easier for us in the UK! Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #10
Thank you ZeroSomeBrains Dec 2018 #14
Thanks for the good wishes! Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #16
Yeah the Depressing Situation in the World is Real ZeroSomeBrains Dec 2018 #19
Well, at its best, that's what DU is good for. Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #20
Terrific, informative post BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #15
Thanks. Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #18
These things seem to be cyclical... TreasonousBastard Dec 2018 #3
Authoritarianism is a horrible problem right now ZeroSomeBrains Dec 2018 #6
Poland, Hungary, Israel, Turkey... TreasonousBastard Dec 2018 #22
Technically all of our days are numbered grantcart Dec 2018 #5
Interesting post malaise Dec 2018 #7
Saying Corbyn is the "front-runner" is a bit optimistic muriel_volestrangler Dec 2018 #8
Thanks for the in-depth analysis ZeroSomeBrains Dec 2018 #9
What message ? Labour have many messages, such is the division. The only positive is that Keir OnDoutside Dec 2018 #13
From what I hear on economics it's very progressive ZeroSomeBrains Dec 2018 #17
From what I've seen and heard up here, Denzil_DC Dec 2018 #12
Yes but it depends on the size of her loss in the vote next week. She would have been gone ages ago OnDoutside Dec 2018 #11
May's problem is with her own Party members; not seeing any strength on the part of Labour... brooklynite Dec 2018 #21
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