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Jarqui

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8. He's trying to stay on a strict, nerve-agent free and bone saw free diet
Fri Dec 7, 2018, 11:45 PM
Dec 2018

If they put him away for the rest of his life (which they might), he may regret that diet.

In his plea deal, which still has weight and validity, he also plead guilty to state level crimes.
If Trump pardons him, it can only be for federal crimes. They would just keep him locked up until he could be sentenced for state level crimes. Even if Gamble v USA prevails, they cannot get double jeopardy for tax evasion. Mueller would probably have some other crimes added. He's screwed.

A lot of people are howling "stupid ass - he should have copped a deal!!". An interesting fact came out tonight: Cohen stopped short of full cooperation too. Contrary to Cohen's stated reason - to allow him to be sentenced earlier, I suspect they both did it for the same reason: the judge might be lenient on a number of transgressions but his limits would be really tested if these two were traitors (as it appears they were). That's probably why they've been as harsh with Cohen as they've been. Cohen and Manafort appear to have put their own greed ahead of their country and that's probably worse to most Americans than anything Richard Nixon and his clowns did (ignoring that most didn't know he scuttled Vietnam peace behind the scenes to get elected). This paragraph is partly conjecture on my part but I think that I have reasonable foundation. I think that missing part in these documents might be the most damning.

If and when folks join those dots, they will not let Mueller's work be dismissed. These people may deserve gallows consideration.

Trump could pardon him for all offenses committed in the past until now Jersey Devil Dec 2018 #1
Yeah, but I mean that he is looking at ten or eleven more offenses that he could be retried for ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #3
He can't be retried if he is pardoned for those crimes Jersey Devil Dec 2018 #6
Ah ha! I checked into that, and you're right. I was hung up on the outstanding indictments ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #7
He's Afraid Of A Bigger Crook THan Individual 1 Me. Dec 2018 #2
Do you think he's intentionally rigging the game so he stays in jail? ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #4
Can't Truthfully Answer That, Conjecture On My Part Me. Dec 2018 #5
I think he's not as stupid as Cohen, for certain jberryhill Dec 2018 #11
He's trying to stay on a strict, nerve-agent free and bone saw free diet Jarqui Dec 2018 #8
You say that his plea deal still has weight and validity ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #10
"He has torpedoed any deal for reduced sentencing he ever had." Jarqui Dec 2018 #16
Manafort would be an idiot to start telling the truth now jberryhill Dec 2018 #9
Why? Is it because his Russian friends would not take kindly to his telling the truth? ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #12
For one, yeah jberryhill Dec 2018 #13
That raises the question of why he took a deal in the first place ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #14
The beautiful thing about Paul Manafort is... jberryhill Dec 2018 #15
Why was Manafort trying to protect Konstantin Kilimnik? dalton99a Dec 2018 #17
Hmmmm, that is a tough question ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #18
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