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pnwmom

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19. Prepare to be shocked. In WA we have caucuses but they don't issue many absentee ballots.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 12:02 AM
Jan 2019

There are very limited circumstances that allow for them. My out of state student couldn't qualify without lying. I attended mine and there was a disproportionate number of young, white males.

Caucuses are elitist, because they require the participants to have the free time to spend hours (sometimes on your feet) debating politics on at least one Saturday (unless you are elected to be a delegate to subsequent events). Some caucus sites are more than an hour from where voters live. And not everyone has the available time OR the eagerness to debate politics with impassioned people -- whereas a primary ballot can be filled out at the kitchen table and mailed in.

That's why the participation is much higher in our primaries. Unfortunately, our party voted to ignore the will of the people -- expressed in a voter-approved referendum to switch to a primary -- and so chooses all its electors in the caucuses, rather than in the primary. (Our primary is called a "beauty contest."

The Republicans agreed to go with the primary system the voters approved -- but the Dems didn't. So in 2016 WA Democrats gave all its electors to the caucus winner, the LOSER of the primary campaign, Bernie Sanders.

What a travesty.

As long as the process is fair to all Sherman A1 Jan 2019 #1
Agree. nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #6
+1000 Power 2 the People Jan 2019 #29
It needs to be both fair AND protective of the will of the people. Hortensis Jan 2019 #33
Sanders has highest approval rate for a U.S. politician "small but more fervent"??? Land Shark Jan 2019 #2
Well, I heard some states will make tax returns a requirement to run. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #4
CA passed that in 2017 and Jerry Brown vetoed it More_Cowbell Jan 2019 #7
I know NY tried to pass it crazycatlady Jan 2019 #13
We need to do away with caucuses Gothmog Jan 2019 #24
+1, yes, people should not be subjected to hostility R B Garr Jan 2019 #32
Primaries are the only way to go... ProgLibDem Jan 2019 #3
Yes.....MN finally is doing primaries..... a kennedy Jan 2019 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2019 #8
caucuses are anti democracy IMO, great for people with no other obligations msongs Jan 2019 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2019 #11
I've never been to a caucus that had absentee ballots. You either showed in person or didn't get a v uppityperson Jan 2019 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2019 #16
Iowa hasn't happened yet, it's not 2020. WA had affidavits that could be sent in early uppityperson Jan 2019 #18
And if you just didn't feel like spending 3-4 hours voting, too bad. You're not good enough. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #21
"what amounts to" an absentee ballot in WA state is NOT the same as an absentee ballot. pnwmom Jan 2019 #20
Exactly. If you wanted your vote to be private, or didn't fit one of those few specific categories uppityperson Jan 2019 #22
Prepare to be shocked! Adrahil Jan 2019 #14
Prepare to be shocked. In WA we have caucuses but they don't issue many absentee ballots. pnwmom Jan 2019 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Jan 2019 #9
With Elizabeth Warren now running, I would prefer Sanders not run Quixote1818 Jan 2019 #15
Washington State is the proof that Jeff Weaver is dreaming. pnwmom Jan 2019 #17
We need to get rid of caucuses Gothmog Jan 2019 #23
Yes - they are the way a party could hand-pick a candidate. ehrnst Jan 2019 #31
... Scurrilous Jan 2019 #25
As it should be. tazkcmo Jan 2019 #26
We need to do away wih all caucuses, and close all primaries. /nt LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #27
Caucuses are Anachronistic and Not the Most Democratic dlk Jan 2019 #28
Caucuses are run and paid for by the party. Primaries are run and paid for by states. ehrnst Jan 2019 #30
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